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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#3121
Eh, if I played Annie and wanted to nail a perfect Tibbers, I'd rather have Veigar's stun that make people get close than Viktor's that make them scatter.
It may be a real terror of counter-initiation tho. "No, you don't jump us". It's a trap. Literally.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#3122
On December 23 2011 09:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:39 KillerSOS wrote:
Spamming laugh isn't actually bannable...

"Have fun, but not at the expense of others"

We allready did this allready, I brought up this argument and got jumped on. Just move along.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#3123
On December 23 2011 09:05 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:39 KillerSOS wrote:
Spamming laugh isn't actually bannable...

"Have fun, but not at the expense of others"


You could argue that for anything though. Maybe you going for last hits make my experience less enjoyable? Spamming laugh isn't bannable, nor is it prove-able.


I was Caitlyn. We had Volibear lane with me. He reported me for stealing his last hits.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 23 2011 00:27 GMT
#3124
On December 23 2011 09:26 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:05 Perplex wrote:
On December 23 2011 09:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:39 KillerSOS wrote:
Spamming laugh isn't actually bannable...

"Have fun, but not at the expense of others"


You could argue that for anything though. Maybe you going for last hits make my experience less enjoyable? Spamming laugh isn't bannable, nor is it prove-able.


I was Caitlyn. We had Volibear lane with me. He reported me for stealing his last hits.

this is too good to be true
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 23 2011 00:30 GMT
#3125
On December 23 2011 09:27 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:26 overt wrote:
On December 23 2011 09:05 Perplex wrote:
On December 23 2011 09:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:39 KillerSOS wrote:
Spamming laugh isn't actually bannable...

"Have fun, but not at the expense of others"


You could argue that for anything though. Maybe you going for last hits make my experience less enjoyable? Spamming laugh isn't bannable, nor is it prove-able.


I was Caitlyn. We had Volibear lane with me. He reported me for stealing his last hits.

this is too good to be true


I didn't get banned or warned. This happened like two weeks ago though, so who knows?

And I don't think they would've banned that guy just for spamming laugh. It was probably the fact that he was also intentionally feeding.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#3126
Aight, I'm pretty sold on Viktor.

I like his design and the story behind him. Going to make choosing his augment very critical and demands a bit of analysis of enemy team. Should be a nice champion.

Getting him+Arctic ops Kennen. Been looking for a good skin for Kennen and I feel the AO skin will be nice.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#3127
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 23 2011 01:19 GMT
#3128
On December 23 2011 10:07 Alaric wrote:
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.


There's also a stacking slow during that time, which is pretty powerful. If they're in the middle when it deploys, running out doesn't loot to be an option from the IGN video. And the first stack is immediate, so if they're in it, it only takes 1 second to stun. Unless you have a dash/teleport or you happen to be on the edge of it, you're not getting out.
It's your boy Guzma!
Prinate
Profile Joined October 2010
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 01:28:55
December 23 2011 01:28 GMT
#3129
On December 23 2011 07:52 JackDino wrote:
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On December 23 2011 07:51 barbsq wrote:
just skimming thru the last couple of pages, i just find it amusing that ppl are so frustrated that you can't really compare viktor's stun to a whole lot of other champ skills, and yet these are prob the same ppl who complain every time there are skills too similar, and therefore unoriginal....

People always complain that skills/champs are too similiar/unoriginal not understanding that there's a shitload of stuff in the game and that's it's really hard to create something that's 100% unique, it's nearly impossible.
Hybrid pen runes fun on MF with her W btw.
http://i.imgur.com/8Vo6a.png Rofl, if that is serious I don't know anymore. Next thing you know you get banned for camping top as a jungler because it's annoying too!


Pendragon explained this comment more in another post: the guy was spamming laugh as he was turret diving/feeding.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 23 2011 01:35 GMT
#3130
On December 23 2011 10:19 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:07 Alaric wrote:
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.


There's also a stacking slow during that time, which is pretty powerful. If they're in the middle when it deploys, running out doesn't loot to be an option from the IGN video. And the first stack is immediate, so if they're in it, it only takes 1 second to stun. Unless you have a dash/teleport or you happen to be on the edge of it, you're not getting out.

Unless I'm misreading the ability, the slow doesn't stack. The field applies the slow, and stacks a dummy debuff that in and of itself doesn't do anything until it reaches 3 stacks.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 23 2011 01:47 GMT
#3131
On December 23 2011 10:35 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:19 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:07 Alaric wrote:
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.


There's also a stacking slow during that time, which is pretty powerful. If they're in the middle when it deploys, running out doesn't loot to be an option from the IGN video. And the first stack is immediate, so if they're in it, it only takes 1 second to stun. Unless you have a dash/teleport or you happen to be on the edge of it, you're not getting out.

Unless I'm misreading the ability, the slow doesn't stack. The field applies the slow, and stacks a dummy debuff that in and of itself doesn't do anything until it reaches 3 stacks.

Hm, maybe you're right. I thought it was a stacking slow that eventually stunned. I might be mistaken, I guess we'll see.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 23 2011 01:53 GMT
#3132
On December 23 2011 10:47 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:19 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:07 Alaric wrote:
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.


There's also a stacking slow during that time, which is pretty powerful. If they're in the middle when it deploys, running out doesn't loot to be an option from the IGN video. And the first stack is immediate, so if they're in it, it only takes 1 second to stun. Unless you have a dash/teleport or you happen to be on the edge of it, you're not getting out.

Unless I'm misreading the ability, the slow doesn't stack. The field applies the slow, and stacks a dummy debuff that in and of itself doesn't do anything until it reaches 3 stacks.

Hm, maybe you're right. I thought it was a stacking slow that eventually stunned. I might be mistaken, I guess we'll see.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the slow values to be so high if that's the case.

What point is there in having a slow that stacks to 132%?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 23 2011 02:19 GMT
#3133
On December 23 2011 10:53 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:47 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:35 TheYango wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:19 Requizen wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:07 Alaric wrote:
Re: Viktor.

I checked the video for his W in the profile, and it seems like it takes 1-1.5s to stun your opponent once the field has been deployed, which his far from instant. So it really takes some time to stun the opponent and it may very well be possible to simply walk out of it even if dropped nearly on top of you.


There's also a stacking slow during that time, which is pretty powerful. If they're in the middle when it deploys, running out doesn't loot to be an option from the IGN video. And the first stack is immediate, so if they're in it, it only takes 1 second to stun. Unless you have a dash/teleport or you happen to be on the edge of it, you're not getting out.

Unless I'm misreading the ability, the slow doesn't stack. The field applies the slow, and stacks a dummy debuff that in and of itself doesn't do anything until it reaches 3 stacks.

Hm, maybe you're right. I thought it was a stacking slow that eventually stunned. I might be mistaken, I guess we'll see.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the slow values to be so high if that's the case.

What point is there in having a slow that stacks to 132%?

Maybe it makes you go backwards?

I didn't look at the numbers, you're right.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 23 2011 02:44 GMT
#3134
I absolutely hate Alistar as a support champ. I'm not sure if it's just cuz I'm absolutely awful with him, or if he's just bad, but I never do well with him in lane.

Watching Saint jungle with him is pretty lulzy though.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 23 2011 03:02 GMT
#3135
On December 23 2011 11:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I absolutely hate Alistar as a support champ. I'm not sure if it's just cuz I'm absolutely awful with him, or if he's just bad, but I never do well with him in lane.

Watching Saint jungle with him is pretty lulzy though.


You've always just been bad with supports. I'm the same way. =/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 23 2011 03:12 GMT
#3136
Its funny, teams would rather focus the 3/3 Xin than a 14/0 Gragas..

If I get more opponents like this, maybe I can make it back to 1200 elo.

I also have a rule for playing league. Each night when I go online, I play until i have either 3 wins or 3 losses. Min 3 games, max 5. After three wins i don't want to risk ruining my good mood, and after 3 losses i don't want to play any more anyways.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 03:20:38
December 23 2011 03:18 GMT
#3137
How do you focus a 14/0 Gragas when you get exploded along the way from 1k range? ....and then he dashes away
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 03:23:46
December 23 2011 03:20 GMT
#3138
On December 23 2011 12:12 57 Corvette wrote:
Its funny, teams would rather focus the 3/3 Xin than a 14/0 Gragas..

If I get more opponents like this, maybe I can make it back to 1200 elo.

I also have a rule for playing league. Each night when I go online, I play until i have either 3 wins or 3 losses. Min 3 games, max 5. After three wins i don't want to risk ruining my good mood, and after 3 losses i don't want to play any more anyways.


Oh... interesting. So this is how people who want to stay mediocre think. Go for the wins/good feeling rather than playing to get better regardless of elo.

This goes for people who only normals too.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
December 23 2011 03:22 GMT
#3139
On December 23 2011 12:18 R04R wrote:
How do you focus a 14/0 Gragas when you get exploded along the way from 1k range? ....and then he dashes away


Wait in the back until he blows his burst?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 03:39:04
December 23 2011 03:26 GMT
#3140
On December 23 2011 12:20 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 12:12 57 Corvette wrote:
Its funny, teams would rather focus the 3/3 Xin than a 14/0 Gragas..

If I get more opponents like this, maybe I can make it back to 1200 elo.

I also have a rule for playing league. Each night when I go online, I play until i have either 3 wins or 3 losses. Min 3 games, max 5. After three wins i don't want to risk ruining my good mood, and after 3 losses i don't want to play any more anyways.


Oh... interesting. So this is how people who want to stay mediocre think. Go for the wins/good feeling rather than playing to get better regardless of elo.


I play liked one ranked a game a day so I'm in my absolute best mood when I play. If my team works great together, I feel great. If my team claws their way to a victory, even if I have a higher blood pressure, it's okay. If I lose... oh well, do something else. Works pretty well for me.

So far 9-2, 1521 elo. >_>

Honestly I spend most of my time playing normals learning champs so I can add them to my ranked repertoire without losing 300 elo. I think I have to carry harder in normals too, if my team is bad, it is atrociously bad.

Edit: Whoops, thought this was the qq thread. Moving that over.
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