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On December 23 2011 05:37 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 05:14 JackDino wrote:On December 23 2011 04:36 Prinate wrote:On December 23 2011 04:24 Kaniol wrote:On December 23 2011 03:28 Two_DoWn wrote:
As for vicktors item, Im sure that late game everyone is going to wish they could sell that piece of junk and get a decent item. Is it confirmed that this item will fit one of 6 slots though? I'm kinda confused by this link since recommended builds for classic include "death" but dominion items don't include any of his unique items I saw that too. At first I assumed it was a typo. but don't you start with 1300g in dominion? That means you could automatically upgrade the item, which might be broken. So maybe the item is removed in dominion? It's a 6slot item, just check viktor ingame and the builds will have it as his 6th item, it's not in there for the dominion build so probs removed on dominion. Profile-->champs--->viktor--->tips&items. Fucking riot removed my dodge runes for the 4th time now what is this crap, dont understand why they dont just change them in the same way they're changing ninja tabi(reduce auto dmg) anyways. 'cause most people would rather have their IP back than use a useless rune. They could add them as a new option, but probably not worth the time spent trying to balance them to be worth taking.
~6-7% reduced auto dmg on a bruiser is hella better than 13 armour, I dont think you know what useless means.
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On December 23 2011 02:41 Unentschieden wrote:
That just results in the culprits starting to argue, like Hynda - who in fact knows exactly what he was banned for. People that can´t tell what about their behaviour might be offensive to other people are "socially challenged" and need more than an explanation to improve their behaviour. Maybe it IS a sad case of a weird disability but such a person is STILL a pain to play with.
The sad part is that you formed an opinion before entering the thread and then proceded without reading a single line of text.
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How is 6-7% reduced auto damage (more likely 5-6%) better than 8% reduced physical damage?
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I didn't realize that when you have 150armour 13armour gives 8% additional reduced physical damage, my bad.
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You don't have 150 armor when you go into lane vs a bruiser. Don't be a smartass.
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Obviously you dont take them when you NEED the 13armour but saying they're useless is really dumb.
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On December 23 2011 06:02 JackDino wrote:
I didn't realize that when you have 150armour 13armour gives 8% additional reduced physical damage, my bad.
At 150 armor, the 13 armor made to give you physical damage reduction provides a 5.5% more physical damage reduction. I think dodge runes are better at this point. They can also increase the expected number of hits it will take to kill you.
Math
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On December 23 2011 06:07 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 06:02 JackDino wrote:
I didn't realize that when you have 150armour 13armour gives 8% additional reduced physical damage, my bad. At 150 armor, the 13 armor made to give you physical damage reduction provides a 5.5% more physical damage reduction. I think dodge runes are better at this point. They can also increase the expected number of hits it will take to kill you. Math + Show Spoiler +
Yeah that was sarcasm:p
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And this stupid discussion started because you think it's too much effort to go to the shop and buy a bundle of 9 runes, and you would rather not have the choice what to get than have to click 15 times?
It's very likely that Riot doesn't even want to have "reduced autoattack damage" runes (that hella weird stat wasn't their first choice for the replacement stat on Tabi, just a much easier to balance and less community rage inducing one). And even if they want, it's not clear if they should be in a similar relation to dodge as it is on Tabi because those two slots have different drawbacks.
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On December 23 2011 06:10 spinesheath wrote:
And this stupid discussion started because you think it's too much effort to go to the shop and buy a bundle of 9 runes, and you would rather not have the choice what to get than have to click 15 times?
It's very likely that Riot doesn't even want to have "reduced autoattack damage" runes. And even if they want, it's not clear if they should be in a similar relation to dodge as it is on Tabi because those two slots have different drawbacks.
You go to the store which is always laggy 4 times to rebuy 9 runes because riot keeps removing them twice a day for 2 days straight instead of just removing them once.
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Ah cool. I liked dodge a lot, especially as jax on domion. You could always bait people into thinking they could kill you with dodge.
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On December 23 2011 06:12 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 06:10 spinesheath wrote:
And this stupid discussion started because you think it's too much effort to go to the shop and buy a bundle of 9 runes, and you would rather not have the choice what to get than have to click 15 times?
It's very likely that Riot doesn't even want to have "reduced autoattack damage" runes. And even if they want, it's not clear if they should be in a similar relation to dodge as it is on Tabi because those two slots have different drawbacks. You go to the store which is always laggy 4 times to rebuy 9 runes because riot keeps removing them twice a day for 2 days straight instead of just removing them once.
So... you REALLY bought dodge runes AFTER they removed them from your account...? And now you complain about it?
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On December 23 2011 06:14 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 06:12 JackDino wrote:On December 23 2011 06:10 spinesheath wrote:
And this stupid discussion started because you think it's too much effort to go to the shop and buy a bundle of 9 runes, and you would rather not have the choice what to get than have to click 15 times?
It's very likely that Riot doesn't even want to have "reduced autoattack damage" runes. And even if they want, it's not clear if they should be in a similar relation to dodge as it is on Tabi because those two slots have different drawbacks. You go to the store which is always laggy 4 times to rebuy 9 runes because riot keeps removing them twice a day for 2 days straight instead of just removing them once. So... you REALLY bought dodge runes AFTER they removed them from your account...? And now you complain about it?
Yes because they would only remove them once, and remove them again after removing them from the game, not remove them 4 times.
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Why don't you just give it a rest and learn to live without dodge runes because you're going to have to soon anyways
On December 20 2011 18:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
- Theorycrafting is welcome but know when to back down from your opinion.
Quoting this because there's a certain other guy who doesn't know when to back down from his opinion
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Because I like dodge and I like jax and I like dodge on jax
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I think what they should do with Tabi is roll it in with Swiftness. Boots + Cloth gives Movement 3 and Armor, and maybe ignore unit collision. Not that it would make it god mode or anything like that, but just a musing.
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I thought they were giving Tabi's 10% damage reduction from all sources. lol that sounds so OP, but I'm sure that might actually turn out less effective than dodge =\
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On December 23 2011 06:36 Requizen wrote:
I think what they should do with Tabi is roll it in with Swiftness. Boots + Cloth gives Movement 3 and Armor, and maybe ignore unit collision. Not that it would make it god mode or anything like that, but just a musing.
If they made them ignore unit colission and give armour and give speed three you should have to pay way more for them. Like 1200.
Edit: actually if swities are 1000, you should have to pay 1300 or more for all of that.
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I think ignore unit colission is dumb anyways, if you really want it pick ghost. Always running trough minions OP.
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On December 23 2011 05:41 Requizen wrote:
However, it is unlike Veigar's stun in many ways. Even if a group is clumped up, it's hard to get all 5 with his stun ring. With Viktor's stun, if they're remotely near one another, you can get a big group. There's not really a comparable ability aside from Cho's Rupture. Those seem to be the only two ranged AoE CCs that affect an area like that.
I mean, I guess you can count Veigar's, but even landing it on one target is a trick and a half sometimes.
Of course, it has a different effective AoE from Veigar's stun. That's what makes it different. I don't see how the circular AoE is inherently "better" than the ring AoE on Veigar's stun (especially since the stun from Veigar's E is immediate). It's just better under different circumstances.
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