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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 10 2011 21:04 GMT
#3621
WoW... AD Sion is freaking ridiculous lategame.
His ult make him heal for 900 per hit with almost no ad. It's nuts.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 21:08:55
December 10 2011 21:07 GMT
#3622
On December 11 2011 06:04 Noocta wrote:
WoW... AD Sion is freaking ridiculous lategame.
His ult make him heal for 900 per hit with almost no ad. It's nuts.

900 per hit is hard to reach... why do you exaggerate so much.

He's like Yi. Really strong if not focused, but dies easily if focused. If he goes in after all the cooldowns have been blown nothing will kill him fast enough.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 10 2011 21:12 GMT
#3623
On December 11 2011 06:07 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 06:04 Noocta wrote:
WoW... AD Sion is freaking ridiculous lategame.
His ult make him heal for 900 per hit with almost no ad. It's nuts.

900 per hit is hard to reach... why do you exaggerate so much.

He's like Yi. Really strong if not focused, but dies easily if focused. If he goes in after all the cooldowns have been blown nothing will kill him fast enough.


Well, i'm not exagerating by so much. He had 250 ad and when alone, healed for more than 600 atleast per hit.
Yi does a ton of damage, but sion got a cc and ton of free health, it's pretty scary.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 10 2011 21:13 GMT
#3624
On December 11 2011 05:48 koreasilver wrote:
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On December 11 2011 03:16 KillerSOS wrote:
Positioning is the hardest aspect of the game, and if you screw it up with an AD carry you're pretty much dead.

I think for anyone that has played starcraft and have learned how to micro ranged units will be able to pick up playing AD champs pretty okay. I think the harder things for such a player would be becoming acquainted with all the champion abilities in the game, and objectives.


Er. I would figure that being acquainted with all the champion abilities (and knowing therefore where it's safe to stand & still do damage) is factored into 'positioning'. It's a little in depth than relatively simple starcraft micro like kiting...
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 10 2011 21:25 GMT
#3625
Positioning in a midgame fight with zealots/dragoons/archons/templars really does give you rough ideas of how to position though. When it comes to really new players if they aren't just running head first into the enemy as a ranged ad/ap, then they're doing alright.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 21:46:37
December 10 2011 21:46 GMT
#3626
On December 11 2011 06:25 koreasilver wrote:
Positioning in a midgame fight with zealots/dragoons/archons/templars really does give you rough ideas of how to position though. When it comes to really new players if they aren't just running head first into the enemy as a ranged ad/ap, then they're doing alright.


Well, ok. I suppose the basics are straightforward like that at the beginning level. I was reflecting on what I figured KillerSOS meant by 'positioning is the hardest aspect of the game'.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 10 2011 22:18 GMT
#3627
http://pre-launch.leagueoflegends.co.kr/ sooooo that is Nada in a video about league of legends O____O
washed
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 10 2011 22:29 GMT
#3628
On December 11 2011 07:18 Vlanitak wrote:
http://pre-launch.leagueoflegends.co.kr/ sooooo that is Nada in a video about league of legends O____O


That's what it looks like. And the second video is Moon.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 10 2011 22:33 GMT
#3629
Loco linked that video like a week ago. IntoTheRain (of BW fame) is in the game guild as Loco.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 10 2011 22:36 GMT
#3630
So the upgrade of PC in BW teams was not for SC2 but for LoL... Everything makes sense now. LoL next Kespa game.
The legend of Darien lives on
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
December 10 2011 23:11 GMT
#3631
On December 10 2011 17:18 TieN.nS) wrote:
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On December 10 2011 17:14 Vaporized wrote:
i guess ill get aa staff from now on. ive been playing a lot of ryze the last month, def. my favorite champ.



Should still basically keep it as Tear until all your slots are full, but yeah, Ryze is one of those champions where best-in-slot items are pretty cut-and-dried. Every single good Ryze goes the build I listed and I don't think there's even a judgment call to be made about any of those items unless other team all magic/all physical damage or something like that. Ryze pretty fun, I just don't like how much farm it takes for him to get strong but I might pick him back up.

just went 19-2-15 haha. i guess your way is better.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
December 10 2011 23:13 GMT
#3632
On December 11 2011 07:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
So the upgrade of PC in BW teams was not for SC2 but for LoL... Everything makes sense now. LoL next Kespa game.

LoL doesn't need a computer upgrade o_O I'm getting 25+ fps (easily playable) on a 6-year-old 11" laptop with integrated graphics.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
December 10 2011 23:39 GMT
#3633
On December 11 2011 08:13 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 07:36 mr_tolkien wrote:
So the upgrade of PC in BW teams was not for SC2 but for LoL... Everything makes sense now. LoL next Kespa game.

LoL doesn't need a computer upgrade o_O I'm getting 25+ fps (easily playable) on a 6-year-old 11" laptop with integrated graphics.

BW could be playable on 10+ years old PCs tho
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
December 11 2011 00:10 GMT
#3634
I've been semi-forced to jungle a bit in ranked on normal games lately, which i normally don't mind, but something I noticed is the abuse you take as the jungler is just retarded. I'm a fairly active jungler when it comes to visiting lanes (be it a bit less so then before the jungle change), and even in games where I went ~~2-0-2 early and constantly helped lanes, as soon as a lane goes badly (be it because they can't handle the match-up despite some ganks, or that they constantly push to the enemies tower and get ganked by the enemy jungler) the jungler gets absolutely shit on. Every single game where something went wrong people start abusing the jungler for not ganking enough or whatever ^^ Is this a common occurence or am I just unlucky. I rather like jungling but as is I just refuse to because the amount of shit you get just ruins the game for me ^^

This said, I'm fairly used to the LoL community and it's abusive nature, and normally I deal with it just fine but as said, as a jungler the amount of shit is just insane ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 11 2011 00:15 GMT
#3635
I honestly don't get it as much as some people seem to make it out to be. I jungle about 2/3 of the time and yeah, it is common for people to blame the jungler when they lose a lane instead of themselves, but people also are very quick to deride other lanes for losing the game. Dumb people are always going to be dumb, regardless of what they're doing and what you're doing.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
December 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#3636
You need to decide for yourself whether the lane could be won in a jungler gank or the lane is just countered even if its just by bad item builds/runes/masteries. If you judge its beyond hope you should let them whine and if it's a lane that can snowball either way you should pay attention for when theres an easy gank oppurtunity with a likely kill OR he's likely to die to jungler gank because if he dies he'll lose lane to snowball and if you countergank you can snowball the lane and fuck the other jungler over as well.
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
December 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#3637
On December 11 2011 06:12 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 06:07 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 11 2011 06:04 Noocta wrote:
WoW... AD Sion is freaking ridiculous lategame.
His ult make him heal for 900 per hit with almost no ad. It's nuts.

900 per hit is hard to reach... why do you exaggerate so much.

He's like Yi. Really strong if not focused, but dies easily if focused. If he goes in after all the cooldowns have been blown nothing will kill him fast enough.


Well, i'm not exagerating by so much. He had 250 ad and when alone, healed for more than 600 atleast per hit.
Yi does a ton of damage, but sion got a cc and ton of free health, it's pretty scary.


So... you're saying he had about 300 armor reduction that he was hitting for like 200% damage on you?
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
December 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#3638
On December 11 2011 09:15 koreasilver wrote:
I honestly don't get it as much as some people seem to make it out to be. I jungle about 2/3 of the time and yeah, it is common for people to blame the jungler when they lose a lane instead of themselves, but people also are very quick to deride other lanes for losing the game. Dumb people are always going to be dumb, regardless of what they're doing and what you're doing.

This is slightly off topic from your post, but I was wondering - how do you jungle with decent speed using "unconventional champions" or even champions that lack strong AOE?

I find that I have ridiculous clear times and jungle presence when playing Udyr, Skarner, or Lee Sin, but when I try someone like Gangplank or Tryndamere I find my clear time is much slower and I can't really do anything until level 6.

However, I must also state that I currently do not have any runes specific for jungling. Despite this I can still jungle extremely well with the champions I mentioned.

Is my problem just runes, or is there a way I can jungle with other champions without the runes while still clearing with decent time/health?
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 11 2011 00:27 GMT
#3639
/ignore OP. People will always go any length to make things NOT MY FAULT in LoL as in pretty muvh everywhere else.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
December 11 2011 00:28 GMT
#3640
Well I try to gank whenever I can but a situation I find to be very tricky is where the lane in question is a) pushing hard to the tower b) losing so badly that the player is almost always on 25%hp or less (i usually offer to take the lane for a bit so they can B if they want, but often enough they get low really fast right after I leave again) c) the enemy on the lane has very good escapes and doesnt go over the halfway point of the lane (Morgana/LeBlanc/Fizz etc). I find it very hard to just stay at the lane since that's a huge XP loss, but when i'm in the other half of the jungle and the person goes OMG HELP MY LANE YOU DICK I just don't know what to do... I try to communicate as much as I can but I simply can't be at a lane in an instant, nor can I hang around that lane forever =)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
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