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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:44:53
November 28 2011 22:43 GMT
#3081
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon
Cackle™
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:48:17
November 28 2011 22:47 GMT
#3082
On November 29 2011 07:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
i've heard a lot of good things about bridge. We tend not to categorize people in older generations the same way we do our own but it's also a total nerd game from before the modern nerd gaming era, so that's a bonus, who here doesn't like meeting older and wiser nerd ballers?


My grandparents tried to teach me bridge once and I just think they were awful at it cause I don't remember anything about it -_-. According to my girlfriends grandparents they got stranded in Europe when they were young and played bridge to get enough $ to get home to the states, that's pretty nerd baller too me.

Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 28 2011 22:47 GMT
#3083
On November 29 2011 07:43 TheKefka wrote:
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon


Holy shit yes. Pokemon is actually so best. Hate gen 5 though -_-

4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 28 2011 22:50 GMT
#3084
On November 29 2011 07:17 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:14 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:07 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:06 unichan wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:55 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:30 gerd1022 wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:13 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:04 r.Evo wrote:
On November 28 2011 16:49 LoCicero wrote:
Ugh, I think I might be done with this game. I just don't enjoy it anymore. Playing it is more frustrating than fun.



I know I'm late to the party, but does anyone else here know games which are:

a) Competetive
b) Not SC2
c) Not as frustrating as LoL
d) Based on decision making more than execution (aka not Quake Live)


Seriously every single time I'm frustrated with LoL because of the whole "You're reliant on random dudes in solo Q" and try to find something different I feel stuck cause it doesn't seems as if there's much else out there. =(

5men premade is kinda what's keeping me with LoL.

Chess.


Bridge (card game) is better than chess. And it has the team aspect.

Bridge is so fucking good. I hate that my whole generation still just thinks it's that game that little old ladies play on TV and in the Movies .

but i thought little old ladies = your generation.

quiet you whippersnapper!

fine, your generation then. Anyone under the age of like, 40, just thinks bridge is a game for little old ladies. when it's actually pretty much the pinnacle of trick-based card games.

I know someone my age at uni who plays (played? haven't seen him in a while) Bridge in championships. Not sure how big, but he's pretty damn good I hear. He's also a good chess player. Actually I also know a bunch of Chess and Go players at uni, and the numbers keep growing. Pretty fun when they play 3 minute chess matches at uni and people gather and watch...

Anyways, yeah, last year when my friends were sitting around after school waiting until 6 PM for ARML (math) practice, they would play bridge. So cool kids man~

Can't help it. University and School are two different things in Germany, and High School doesn't fit either.
Besides, I'm pretty sure you're just sad I'm not actually talking about you.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
November 28 2011 22:50 GMT
#3085
On November 29 2011 07:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:43 TheKefka wrote:
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon


Holy shit yes. Pokemon is actually so best. Hate gen 5 though -_-

4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o



Ashe is such a good starting champion, I learned the game with her, and then I went to annie since i figured out the whole hero passive thing and people said annie was good for noobs on these forums.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 28 2011 22:51 GMT
#3086
Hmm. New theory for the jungle reamake- make spectating tourneys easier for phreak so he doenst have to worry about following ganks and can just stare at stats all day.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 28 2011 22:52 GMT
#3087
On November 29 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?


AFAIK it's the most easily accessible "pro" opinion regarding the upcoming jungle changes. Personally his lack of organization, awkward tone/mannerisms, poor grammar and horrible mispronunciations (versitaal wtf?) make it almost impossible for me to watch any of his videos where he speaks.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
November 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#3088
On November 29 2011 07:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:43 TheKefka wrote:
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon


Holy shit yes. Pokemon is actually so best. Hate gen 5 though -_-

4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o



Probably a jungler that just stays in the jungle and farms. Since they are level 1 summoners, that realistically isn't an option however, since jungling without runes/masteries is a waste of time. Laning is more difficult to learn, but they are going to need to learn it sometime.

For laning; they should go bottom as an AD carry. Caitlyn is the easiest, but Tristana and Ashe are both super cheap and pretty easy to use as well incase they don't have the IP.

Other then that, Sion is a really easy to play AP, and Gangplank is pretty damn easy to use for a bruiser.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:58:36
November 28 2011 22:58 GMT
#3089
Make him buy Singed so he can run around like a retard and you don't have to worry.
Cackle™
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 28 2011 22:58 GMT
#3090
On November 29 2011 07:52 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?


AFAIK it's the most easily accessible "pro" opinion regarding the upcoming jungle changes. Personally his lack of organization, awkward tone/mannerisms, poor grammar and horrible mispronunciations (versitaal wtf?) make it almost impossible for me to watch any of his videos where he speaks.

lol

stonewall

pro

lolololol

goddamn yo...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 28 2011 23:00 GMT
#3091
The interesting thing I got out of what he said was that it seemed as though it was VERY easy to fall behind the jungle creeps and get screwed over. Like to the point that you couldnt gank because you would instantly fall behind the creeps and not be able to farm them anymore.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Crazyspoon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States50 Posts
November 28 2011 23:02 GMT
#3092
On November 29 2011 07:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o


A big variable that's easy to forget about for starting players is champion price; grinding out IP with very limited champ selection is painful! If they want to try ranged, ashe is good and very cheap, but tristana's jump is very forgiving when you don't have flash. Ryze is solid as a mage - forgiving, easy, very potent. If they want to try their hand at jungling, nunu is another 450 that I imagine could jungle at high health with the new masteries, even without runes. All of these champions have an easy out, essential when new players overextend out of inexperience, but don't have access to flash.

If they want to duo with you, and find support fun, soraka is a good choice. All these heroes (save trist) are 450, so if they don't like the champ's role, they can easily buy another to explore.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 23:09:28
November 28 2011 23:09 GMT
#3093
On November 29 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?

Because it's the only non-Riot opinion we've heard from someone who's actually tested the new jungle changes.

If someone more experienced gave an in-depth appraisal of the new jungle, I'd probably pay attention to that too. Riot's obviously going to hype the shit out of it, so Guinsoo's/Morello's appraisal of what's good and what's bad about the new jungle is obviously biased, and not worth much. As it stands, Stonewall's is the only "neutral" informed opinion on the new jungle.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
November 28 2011 23:19 GMT
#3094
"Not forced by Riot to do this video"

Yeah, why I don't I believe its objectivity...
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 28 2011 23:19 GMT
#3095
On November 29 2011 07:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:43 TheKefka wrote:
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon


Holy shit yes. Pokemon is actually so best. Hate gen 5 though -_-

4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o

I don't get 5th Gen. 4th Gen was alright, lol.

As for a new champ, uh, Teemo is pretty cool. Shoot people all day, free wards, and if everyone is chasing you, press W, run in bush and stealth. Since most people don't know how to deal with stealth you get away with it for ages kekekekeke. Alternatively, play some really tanky person (Udyr? Rammus?) build only tank items and just never die because people don't know how to focus right our build penetration lol.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 28 2011 23:20 GMT
#3096
On November 29 2011 07:58 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:52 Seuss wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?


AFAIK it's the most easily accessible "pro" opinion regarding the upcoming jungle changes. Personally his lack of organization, awkward tone/mannerisms, poor grammar and horrible mispronunciations (versitaal wtf?) make it almost impossible for me to watch any of his videos where he speaks.

lol

stonewall

pro

lolololol

goddamn yo...


There's a reason I put it in quotation marks.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 28 2011 23:26 GMT
#3097
On November 29 2011 08:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
Why is stonewall's videos getting so much attention from everyone, I like his jungle route guide video things, but what the hell is his rambling video getting so much attention for?

Because it's the only non-Riot opinion we've heard from someone who's actually tested the new jungle changes.

If someone more experienced gave an in-depth appraisal of the new jungle, I'd probably pay attention to that too. Riot's obviously going to hype the shit out of it, so Guinsoo's/Morello's appraisal of what's good and what's bad about the new jungle is obviously biased, and not worth much. As it stands, Stonewall's is the only "neutral" informed opinion on the new jungle.


It might be a non-riot opinion, but everything he's saying sounds absurd. Everything just sounds like sensationalist opinion without any real facts backing it up. Obviously he's played it, but he doesn't provide numbers or any useful information. He just states opinions that will get a rise out of people. I guess that makes sense for a youtube video though. Goodjob!

If this change goes live and I die in the jungle after I gank I'll eat my words here, but I can't imagine that being possible. Riot has done some pretty stupid things in the past, but I can't see them making jungling too hard if their goal is to allow low levels to do it.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 28 2011 23:31 GMT
#3098
On November 29 2011 07:50 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:17 unichan wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:14 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:07 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:06 unichan wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:55 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:30 gerd1022 wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:13 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:04 r.Evo wrote:
On November 28 2011 16:49 LoCicero wrote:
Ugh, I think I might be done with this game. I just don't enjoy it anymore. Playing it is more frustrating than fun.



I know I'm late to the party, but does anyone else here know games which are:

a) Competetive
b) Not SC2
c) Not as frustrating as LoL
d) Based on decision making more than execution (aka not Quake Live)


Seriously every single time I'm frustrated with LoL because of the whole "You're reliant on random dudes in solo Q" and try to find something different I feel stuck cause it doesn't seems as if there's much else out there. =(

5men premade is kinda what's keeping me with LoL.

Chess.


Bridge (card game) is better than chess. And it has the team aspect.

Bridge is so fucking good. I hate that my whole generation still just thinks it's that game that little old ladies play on TV and in the Movies .

but i thought little old ladies = your generation.

quiet you whippersnapper!

fine, your generation then. Anyone under the age of like, 40, just thinks bridge is a game for little old ladies. when it's actually pretty much the pinnacle of trick-based card games.

I know someone my age at uni who plays (played? haven't seen him in a while) Bridge in championships. Not sure how big, but he's pretty damn good I hear. He's also a good chess player. Actually I also know a bunch of Chess and Go players at uni, and the numbers keep growing. Pretty fun when they play 3 minute chess matches at uni and people gather and watch...

Anyways, yeah, last year when my friends were sitting around after school waiting until 6 PM for ARML (math) practice, they would play bridge. So cool kids man~

Can't help it. University and School are two different things in Germany, and High School doesn't fit either.
Besides, I'm pretty sure you're just sad I'm not actually talking about you.

Haha I'm joking, everyone outside of US also calls it uni, so I hear it a lot but you talk about uni a lot so I remember you for that hehe
:)
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
November 28 2011 23:39 GMT
#3099
On November 29 2011 07:47 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:43 TheKefka wrote:
To the guy asking about a competitive game to play.
Pokemon online.I'm serious.
Go to smogon university and you'll find everything there.
There is quite a big community behind it and you can totally go OCD on it if you want or just play for fun.
But I guess it's a bad idea if you were never into pokemon


Holy shit yes. Pokemon is actually so best. Hate gen 5 though -_-

4-5 of my friends just joined LoL... with little/no DotA or hell even PC gaming experience. What champion requires the least map awareness, feeds the least, and still can lend a little utility (optional, mostly not dying) o.o



I am going through the exact same thing. It makes me realize how hard the first few games actually are. Once I randomly joined an easy bot game and a veigar died every time he went in lane so he literally just explored the map... was pretty funny to watch.

What I've found is that it barely matters which hero they pick. At low level there is no meta at all aside from mid being solo and no jungle. My friend is claiming success with laning teemo skarner together, for instance. I guess if I had to pick noob champions you can't really go wrong with cait, sion, warwick, teemo, taric, ashe. If they run into a smurf they're toast no matter what combo they use, and if matchmaking does it's job they will be against another random lane equally clueless.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 28 2011 23:39 GMT
#3100
On November 29 2011 08:31 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:50 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:17 unichan wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:14 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:07 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 07:06 unichan wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:55 Mogwai wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:30 gerd1022 wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:13 spinesheath wrote:
On November 29 2011 06:04 r.Evo wrote:
[quote]


I know I'm late to the party, but does anyone else here know games which are:

a) Competetive
b) Not SC2
c) Not as frustrating as LoL
d) Based on decision making more than execution (aka not Quake Live)


Seriously every single time I'm frustrated with LoL because of the whole "You're reliant on random dudes in solo Q" and try to find something different I feel stuck cause it doesn't seems as if there's much else out there. =(

5men premade is kinda what's keeping me with LoL.

Chess.


Bridge (card game) is better than chess. And it has the team aspect.

Bridge is so fucking good. I hate that my whole generation still just thinks it's that game that little old ladies play on TV and in the Movies .

but i thought little old ladies = your generation.

quiet you whippersnapper!

fine, your generation then. Anyone under the age of like, 40, just thinks bridge is a game for little old ladies. when it's actually pretty much the pinnacle of trick-based card games.

I know someone my age at uni who plays (played? haven't seen him in a while) Bridge in championships. Not sure how big, but he's pretty damn good I hear. He's also a good chess player. Actually I also know a bunch of Chess and Go players at uni, and the numbers keep growing. Pretty fun when they play 3 minute chess matches at uni and people gather and watch...

Anyways, yeah, last year when my friends were sitting around after school waiting until 6 PM for ARML (math) practice, they would play bridge. So cool kids man~

Can't help it. University and School are two different things in Germany, and High School doesn't fit either.
Besides, I'm pretty sure you're just sad I'm not actually talking about you.

Haha I'm joking, everyone outside of US also calls it uni, so I hear it a lot but you talk about uni a lot so I remember you for that hehe


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skarner real cute
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