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unichan
United States4223 Posts
life sucks ughhh w/e time for more SUPPORT MALPHITE | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 16 2011 00:49 Zdrastochye wrote: GIVE HIM THE PENTA GIVE HIM THE PENTA Regi "Lol I coulda gotten it, I left it for you" All spells on CD. Reminds me of how they could have taken that penta from Regi when he was begging them to give it to him in that one game funny shit | ||
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Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:52 epoc wrote: Ok I really need to vent about this. No idea what just happened last game. Played chogath versus ap sion top. Had pretty much equal cs as him something around 55 to his 62. So he has boots and 2 dorans. I have boots and the 24mr thingie. Then I have like 4-6 stacks of feast. Sion is at no kills at this point. And I'm farming by my tower. Then sion and noc from jungle towerdive me and kill me. They do this atleast 2 times. Both times I killed noc the moment I died but the other one was at full health. So Yeah I'm on blue side and literally farming before the river bushes. Noc wasn't fed either. Holy shit they killed me in like 5 seconds. Well they increased burst a lot with masteries and even if they nerfed the ratio by 0.9 it only decreases dmg in late game. This looks early-mid game still. @Hynda yeah the reason to take ignite/exhaust (aka the carries seems to have been taken away and therefore there is no use for them anymore.... ghost/teleport everybody?) | ||
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Comprissent
United States314 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:46 Sandster wrote: "Low ELO" as in below 1500, which constitutes the vast majority of players. I'd say it's pretty smart given how much grief those guys cause when they snowball. Same can be said for balancing stuff for diamond sc2 players, it's the vast majority of players there and below... and blizzard doesn't do that | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
"League of Legends: Cataclysm" | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
-passive reduces damage taken. -W scales with attack speed. -2 gap closers -insane ult for ganks Only thing is how to build him. | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:59 Shinshady wrote: Well they increased burst a lot with masteries and even if they nerfed the ratio by 0.9 it only decreases dmg in late game. This looks early-mid game still. @Hynda yeah the reason to take ignite/exhaust (aka the carries seems to have been taken away and therefore there is no use for them anymore.... ghost/teleport everybody?) Eu side | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:01 Comprissent wrote: Same can be said for balancing stuff for diamond sc2 players, it's the vast majority of players there and below... and blizzard doesn't do that Two different games. Balancing around silver/gold leaguers breaks starcraft at the pro level. Nerfing Akali and Kassadin does not break competitive LoL, it simply changes the champion pool slightly. | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:01 Comprissent wrote: Same can be said for balancing stuff for diamond sc2 players, it's the vast majority of players there and below... and blizzard doesn't do that Yes, they do lol. Not to the biggest extend but if a certain thing is way broken against low level players, they'll nerf it. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:08 Woony wrote: Yes, they do lol. Not to the biggest extend but if a certain thing is way broken against low level players, they'll nerf it. e.g. Xin Zhao Made absolutely no fk sense why he got a nerf about 5+ patches ago but apparently Xin is a terror at low elo and I can kinda imagine it. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
below 1500 is low elo? 1800 is still low elo please quit kidding yourselves. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:08 Woony wrote: Yes, they do lol. Not to the biggest extend but if a certain thing is way broken against low level players, they'll nerf it. Ye they said themselves if there is a dominant strategy at low leagues that has a high win percentage,they nerf it. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Pre-nerf Eve is the epitome of this problem. Being able to stun, do damage all while stealthed at lower levels of play causes a lot of problems. This is partially due to the fact the tutorial, while explaining concepts such as last hitting, never actually talks about stealth, wards and oracles. In a MOBA style game, there is already a large "burden of knowledge" on players to know about all the mechanics, matchups, champion details, etc. However, for a newer player, what is most important is that whatever is killing them has an obvious answer. For example: Bush + Garen = Ow, therefore don't facecheck. Other examples include Tower = Big and Scary, therefore don't fight it 1v1. The tutorial even has a small section on this. It does not however cover stealth mechanics. There also leads to the problem where abusive strategies can eventually lead up to higher levels. Gunblade-Burst-the-carry-ASAP-Morde was one instance of this. While commonly considered a low Elo phenomenon, this was more because the consideration of "yeah but just don't fight in the creep wave" was too commonly used while glossing over many other aspects of Morde. While there is truth that lower Elo players respond sub-optimally to these problems, that does not necessarily mean that there is not an inherent problem to begin with. The current rise in Tryndamere popularity after his remake is another case where slowly a careful examination of what causes him to be a problem beyond the superficial low Elo problems suggests a much stronger power level than previously considered. TL;DR If people die and don't know what happened, they aren't even given the chance to learn. Also, abuse cases in lower Elo can also mask deeper problems with champions that have not been fully considered. | ||
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On November 15 2011 18:24 Vibes wrote: Save Influence Points for weeks to buy Akali and Akali Runes. Finally buy her. See her nerfed the next day. FML. Did that with Noc yesterday lol a few hours before patch notes came out | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:46 Sandster wrote: "Low ELO" as in below 1500, which constitutes the vast majority of players. I'd say it's pretty smart given how much grief those guys cause when they snowball. If I remember correctly almost all games I have seen of pro teams have her banned. I dont think her problem was a "low elo" one because from level 6 on it was impossible to escape and very hard to 1v1 her. She did incredible damage and had her growing spellvamp to fill her life back up so fast and she could go under her shroud to become invisible and recharge her q. Maybe she got nerfed too hard but to say she didnt need one doesnt seem right. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:11 NeoIllusions wrote: e.g. Xin Zhao Made absolutely no fk sense why he got a nerf about 5+ patches ago but apparently Xin is a terror at low elo and I can kinda imagine it. Pretty much. I thought he was fine, but whenever a Xin was on my team he'd suicide repeatedly and then troll. Xin on enemy team? No one plays carefully and he's like 15-3 before 20 minutes. Fun times. | ||
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:24 luckybeni2 wrote: If I remember correctly almost all games I have seen of pro teams have her banned. I dont think her problem was a "low elo" one because from level 6 on it was impossible to escape and very hard to 1v1 her. She did incredible damage and had her growing spellvamp to fill her life back up so fast and she could go under her shroud to become invisible and recharge her q. Maybe she got nerfed too hard but to say she didnt need one doesnt seem right. I think its a little early to say she got nerfed to hard. The nerfs seem reasonable since her passive plus gunblade was too strong originally and even after they nerfed gunblade she was still really strong. I think that the passive nerf is a proper step by Riot. Give it a few days and lets see just how much the nerf actually changed her before declaring it too hard | ||
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