EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 24
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Lylat
France8571 Posts
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: They were confident at the time. However, WCG changed the rules they followed them and now they're going to Korea. What are they supposed to do: give CDE their spot even though they won the right to go to Korea because they said it before? I don't think that's there's a good decision to make here. You're picking the lesser of evils and going to Korea is that evil. Sucks to be CDE. Look, I know you are a fan of Dignitas and I'm not going to give you flak for it; I'm a blindfanboy for MJY and even now I would basically defend him knowing full well what he did. In this case though, the way I see it, Voyboy's post implies that he knowledges CDE deserved the win. Having, he then goes on to play the 2nd set anyways, which is basically saying "I know it's wrong to do this, but we're going to do it anyways". Another way to look at it is that Voyboy tries to score PR points by being well-mannered, and then turns heel as soon as he gets the chance. Calling him two-faced is perfectly valid. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:49 Lylat wrote: I'm confused, is this the patch notes thread? This is the General Discussion thread... for discussion about general topics. Labeled by patch not to purely discuss patch notes but to segment the discussion and archive chunks of it, preventing a thread from getting too long and unmanageable. | ||
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
I'm skeptical of Phreak's hybrid build. I'm sure triforce wouldn't be bad but I was thinking standard top bruiser fare of wriggles into Atmogs/Fratmas then triforce maybe? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Personally, I think the lack of consistent scaling across her abilities, coupled with the general synergy of her passive with attack speed makes Wit's End seem like an appealing option. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:51 Azerbaijan wrote: All this drama is really dramatic but anyone have any thoughts about items for shyvana? I'm skeptical of Phreak's hybrid build. I'm sure triforce wouldn't be bad but I was thinking standard top bruiser fare of wriggles into Atmogs/Fratmas then triforce maybe? Probably get Wriggle's fast for lane sustain or for jungling if you jungle her. I would say Wit's End next as attack speed synergizes well with her kit and it gives you MR and it's Wit's End. Then I think you could either go into Atmogs or Atmallet. Or build sunfire to be real dragon. Dignitas acted like two-faced jerks and should've forfeited/not sent that email once they admitted CDE won and deserved to go to Korea. Really dumb on their part to post shit on their Twitter congratulating CDE if they were just going to contest it. Even dumber on Voyboy's part to make a thread saying CDE deserves to win and should go to Korea once they send an email appealing to WCG for a rematch. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Looking at her kit, I don't see that much tools for ganking from jungle, pre 6? At 6 you have a pushback, before that you only have a speed boost. Doesn't seem all that great ganker. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Leveling R past 1 feels pointless. All you get is 100 more magic damage in an AoE (as if QWE in dragon didn't do enough AoE already and weren't more spammable) and 5 more armor/mres in human form or 10 in dragon form per rank. In terms of damage you'd probably do more by leveling QWE which are AoE in drag and will be used multiple times in drag form for greater overall damage. The only thing you lose out on is a tiny bit of Armor/MR. It also scales with AP and this scaling sucks. E is the most fun skill but is mostly useless. The armor reduction doesn't scale so 1 point in it is fine for that. The ranking damage is also low (3 W ticks covers that) and E passive < W passive when under 1.5 attacks/sec. Being blocked by minions makes it pretty bad in lane and it has AP scaling that sucks too. W is powerful (does and it's like a free ghost at max rank (it's 50% movespeed that decreases with duration), but it's not very interactive and I get bored pressing it endlessly for my free sunfire capes. Reminds me a ton of flamespitter and does roughly the same damage. Q is more OP than W because with dragon form it applies on hit effects in an AoE, so stack your tiamats huehuehuehue. Overall IDK what to think of this champ, I'd rather that E was useful and that ranking R meant something. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:37 daemir wrote: That's a hilarious picture though :p were you able to chat with either team in the lobby? no lol. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:58 daemir wrote: Wit's End seems awesome for her. Looking at her kit, I don't see that much tools for ganking from jungle, pre 6? At 6 you have a pushback, before that you only have a speed boost. Doesn't seem all that great ganker. Red dependent ganker for sure, but the thing about that speed boost is that it's significantly higher than comparable speed boost skills (Blood Boil is 11-15%, Bear Stance and Crystalline Exoskeleton are 15-25ish%, Contaminate is 20-40%). | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
EG head honcho So if LoL is not an esport/pro game, can someone tell that community they can stop emailing me about sponsoring their non pro game team?  | ||
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Azuzu
United States340 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
gg Regi | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:59 phyvo wrote: So, Shyvana. Leveling R past 1 feels pointless. All you get is 100 more magic damage in an AoE (as if QWE in dragon didn't do enough AoE already and weren't more spammable) and 5 more armor/mres in human form or 10 in dragon form per rank. In terms of damage you'd probably do more by leveling QWE which are AoE in drag and will be used multiple times in drag form for greater overall damage. The only thing you lose out on is a tiny bit of Armor/MR. It also scales with AP and this scaling sucks. E is the most fun skill but is mostly useless. The armor reduction doesn't scale so 1 point in it is fine for that. The ranking damage is also low (3 W ticks covers that) and E passive < W passive when under 1.5 attacks/sec. Being blocked by minions makes it pretty bad in lane and it has AP scaling that sucks too. W is powerful (does and it's like a free ghost at max rank (it's 50% movespeed that decreases with duration), but it's not very interactive and I get bored pressing it endlessly for my free sunfire capes. Reminds me a ton of flamespitter and does roughly the same damage. Q is more OP than W because with dragon form it applies on hit effects in an AoE, so stack your tiamats huehuehuehue. Overall IDK what to think of this champ, I'd rather that E was useful and that ranking R meant something. Keep in mind that if you E someone, your Q will proc the passive for E twice, meaning E + autoattack + animation cancel into Q means 45% extra damage on E. | ||
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WreakHavoc
40 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Need to see more if she becomes like awesome super carry if she has tons of gold worth items or will her power curve lame out, so you'll just need a basic core aka jungling would be more beneficial. Dragon form ground fire looks disrubting in the battle, hating that, but otherwise looks ok champ. edit: and listening this state of the league episode, rofl a wild reginald appeared. | ||
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dookudooku
255 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:10 WreakHavoc wrote: Jesus christ, way to understand the semantics behind what Reginald was saying. Reginald could have articulated his words better and I can understand how Scoots could misunderstand but really? Its obvious what Reginald was trying to say that you can't treat LoL the same as every other eSports and just like you can't treat one sport the same as every other. It kinda ticks me off what Scoots is doing. Can someone let Scoots know that the Dota2 invitational also used a weighted single set finals in a double-elim tournament? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I honestly don't give a shit what Evil Geniuses says about LoL. They aren't involved in the game, I don't really care if they step up and sponsor any teams because all the big NA teams already have sponsors. People who think LoL needs a double elimination set up with actual bo3 sets is fucking retarded. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:08 Azuzu wrote: If you were ever wondering why orianna went from must ban to never played with her nerfs, here's why: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1435910 Holy crap, I even played her in a match lately and it was like...yea this Q range, but I didn't notice it was that bad. o_O christ. | ||
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