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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
October 08 2011 03:13 GMT
#941
On October 08 2011 11:35 unichan wrote:
when do you get tear vs catalyst on kassabutt
i just played him in a couple super low elo norms and he's so fun LOL, but i always feel like i'm doing negative damage on him, which i kind of am, but he's so much fun but i never know when to go in or not. like sometimes i just ult onto people because i think it's a good idea and then i die.

Most of the time as Kassadin you will be getting blue buff - so just rush catalyst as it gives you decent amount of mana (and health) for lane. Don't really need Tears (generally). But again it depends vastly on your playstyle. ---- I think Uta mentioned it a few times here or there in the Kass thread.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 08 2011 03:31 GMT
#942
For Kass, cata->roa is pretty much core cause you need the mana pool and since you're practically a melee caster, the HP buffer is very good too.

I asked uta about tear and he said the opinion on that is divided. some people love tear, others hate it, others dgaf either way.

i personally don't really like tear because altho it gives amazing mana pool for late game, I feel that it delays your damage too long, especially if you're planning on getting a philo as well.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
October 08 2011 04:13 GMT
#943
Are there more champions with a style similar to xin and trynd?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
October 08 2011 04:15 GMT
#944
Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for.
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HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
October 08 2011 04:17 GMT
#945
On October 08 2011 13:15 Craton wrote:
Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for.

Anything similar to them I like playing aggressive melee.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 04:20:27
October 08 2011 04:20 GMT
#946
On October 08 2011 12:03 57 Corvette wrote:
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On October 08 2011 12:02 BlackPaladin wrote:
It's true damage. It does true damage. That being, damage which is not affected by any mitigation aka damage reduction. Because it's true damage.


Oh. So there is no way other than dying (or QSS for True damage over time) to lower the amount of true damage you take.

The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)


On October 08 2011 13:17 HeroHenry wrote:
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On October 08 2011 13:15 Craton wrote:
Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for.

Anything similar to them I like playing aggressive melee.

Pretty much every bruiser then.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 08 2011 04:28 GMT
#947
On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote:
The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)

In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 08 2011 04:32 GMT
#948
On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote:
The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)

In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.

No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 08 2011 04:39 GMT
#949
On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:
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On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote:
The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)

In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.

No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper.

Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 08 2011 04:41 GMT
#950
anyone have a team that wants to scrim right now?
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
October 08 2011 04:44 GMT
#951
You guys should have a TL streaming thread with all your stream links so that only notable TLers can have a thread and also it compiles them in a format that makes it easy to find a TL stream to watch.

That way I can be a homeboy and jsut watch you guys stream.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 08 2011 05:02 GMT
#952
On October 08 2011 13:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
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On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote:
The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)

In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.

No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper.

Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends.

I suppose you're right. Though it was Yango not Craton that suggested FH

Depending on how she's built the majority of her damage is gonna still be physical anyways so armour is a good idea despite her true damage.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 08 2011 05:10 GMT
#953
The best way I know how to counter a ranged ad is to grab nocturne and then build him pure tank. You dont have to worry about any peels, and atmogs will give you enough tank to sit on a carry for as long as you need. Throw a frozen heart in there once they start to scale up their attack speed.

You dont have to go this extreme every game, which is why we dont see noc picked every single game. But if you are worried about getting stomped by a ranged ad, thats the best way to go about countering it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 05:45:23
October 08 2011 05:44 GMT
#954
On October 08 2011 14:02 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 13:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:
On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote:
The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)

In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.

No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper.

Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends.

I suppose you're right. Though it was Yango not Craton that suggested FH

Depending on how she's built the majority of her damage is gonna still be physical anyways so armour is a good idea despite her true damage.

Which makes FH&Randuin sound that much more delicious!

Meanwhile, trying to find a 5th normal queue player for 30 mins sucks. AFKparty indeed.

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 06:13:54
October 08 2011 06:06 GMT
#955
20min ranked 5s queue

get 1300s after it pops
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 08 2011 06:25 GMT
#956
On October 08 2011 15:06 zulu_nation8 wrote:
20min ranked 5s queue

get 1300s after it pops


You crying about free elo? Really?
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 08 2011 06:35 GMT
#957
just had the funniest game ever....

Other team grabs baron and pushes bot 5v4 we have shaco pushing top. The whole time he is pushing top they are slowly pushing in bot then finally noct and akali dive me as cait and spend a lot of time doing so both dying in the process, then the rest of our team dies so base race between kog/morg/janna and shaco. They kill one nexus tower but then have to back off to taric and me eventually. Shaco is finishing the nexus at this point but akali respawns and kills him and just as she does the final swipe of shaco's clone kills the nexus. truly epic win.
Brees on in
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 08 2011 06:37 GMT
#958
Shake drizzle is unstoppable. Interresting, support soraka op
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 08 2011 06:40 GMT
#959
On October 08 2011 15:37 Kaniol wrote:
Shake drizzle is unstoppable. Interresting, support soraka op

ShakeDrizzle has scored an ace.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
October 08 2011 06:48 GMT
#960
Thinking about adding a 2nd top champ to my arsenal. So far, I've only managed to become somewhat skilled with irelia, but there may be instances when the other team may pick her.

Any recommendations for a solid champ at top?

I was thinking about udyr or ww, but meh I'm not sure :\
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
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