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On October 08 2011 11:35 unichan wrote: when do you get tear vs catalyst on kassabutt i just played him in a couple super low elo norms and he's so fun LOL, but i always feel like i'm doing negative damage on him, which i kind of am, but he's so much fun but i never know when to go in or not. like sometimes i just ult onto people because i think it's a good idea and then i die. Most of the time as Kassadin you will be getting blue buff - so just rush catalyst as it gives you decent amount of mana (and health) for lane. Don't really need Tears (generally). But again it depends vastly on your playstyle. ---- I think Uta mentioned it a few times here or there in the Kass thread.
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For Kass, cata->roa is pretty much core cause you need the mana pool and since you're practically a melee caster, the HP buffer is very good too.
I asked uta about tear and he said the opinion on that is divided. some people love tear, others hate it, others dgaf either way.
i personally don't really like tear because altho it gives amazing mana pool for late game, I feel that it delays your damage too long, especially if you're planning on getting a philo as well.
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Are there more champions with a style similar to xin and trynd?
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Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for.
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On October 08 2011 13:15 Craton wrote: Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for. Anything similar to them I like playing aggressive melee.
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On October 08 2011 12:03 57 Corvette wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:02 BlackPaladin wrote: It's true damage. It does true damage. That being, damage which is not affected by any mitigation aka damage reduction. Because it's true damage. Oh. So there is no way other than dying (or QSS for True damage over time) to lower the amount of true damage you take. The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
On October 08 2011 13:17 HeroHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 13:15 Craton wrote: Those two have different styles, so I'm not really sure what you're looking for. Anything similar to them I like playing aggressive melee. Pretty much every bruiser then.
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On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote: The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc.
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On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote: The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc. No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper.
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On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote: The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc. No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper. Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends.
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anyone have a team that wants to scrim right now?
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You guys should have a TL streaming thread with all your stream links so that only notable TLers can have a thread and also it compiles them in a format that makes it easy to find a TL stream to watch.
That way I can be a homeboy and jsut watch you guys stream.
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On October 08 2011 13:39 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote: The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc. No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper. Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends. I suppose you're right. Though it was Yango not Craton that suggested FH 
Depending on how she's built the majority of her damage is gonna still be physical anyways so armour is a good idea despite her true damage.
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The best way I know how to counter a ranged ad is to grab nocturne and then build him pure tank. You dont have to worry about any peels, and atmogs will give you enough tank to sit on a carry for as long as you need. Throw a frozen heart in there once they start to scale up their attack speed.
You dont have to go this extreme every game, which is why we dont see noc picked every single game. But if you are worried about getting stomped by a ranged ad, thats the best way to go about countering it.
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On October 08 2011 14:02 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 13:39 Two_DoWn wrote:On October 08 2011 13:32 Treadmill wrote:On October 08 2011 13:28 TheYango wrote:On October 08 2011 13:20 Craton wrote: The only thing you can do vs true damage is to stack HP, which works until you have true damage that scales based on someone's max hp (Vayne -_-)
In Vayne's case, your best option is -attack speed effects--Frozen Heart, Randuin's, Lee Sin E, etc. No, in Vayne's case your best option is to walk up and kill Vayne. She's made of paper. Good luck with that at any level above 1200. Any half decent team can peel for vayne, especially when you consider her invis and knockback, plus flash. Craton is right, grab a frozen heart and throw a stun at her if she over extends. I suppose you're right. Though it was Yango not Craton that suggested FH  Depending on how she's built the majority of her damage is gonna still be physical anyways so armour is a good idea despite her true damage. Which makes FH&Randuin sound that much more delicious!
Meanwhile, trying to find a 5th normal queue player for 30 mins sucks. AFKparty indeed.
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20min ranked 5s queue
get 1300s after it pops
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On October 08 2011 15:06 zulu_nation8 wrote: 20min ranked 5s queue
get 1300s after it pops
You crying about free elo? Really?
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just had the funniest game ever....
Other team grabs baron and pushes bot 5v4 we have shaco pushing top. The whole time he is pushing top they are slowly pushing in bot then finally noct and akali dive me as cait and spend a lot of time doing so both dying in the process, then the rest of our team dies so base race between kog/morg/janna and shaco. They kill one nexus tower but then have to back off to taric and me eventually. Shaco is finishing the nexus at this point but akali respawns and kills him and just as she does the final swipe of shaco's clone kills the nexus. truly epic win.
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Shake drizzle is unstoppable. Interresting, support soraka op
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On October 08 2011 15:37 Kaniol wrote: Shake drizzle is unstoppable. Interresting, support soraka op ShakeDrizzle has scored an ace.
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Thinking about adding a 2nd top champ to my arsenal. So far, I've only managed to become somewhat skilled with irelia, but there may be instances when the other team may pick her.
Any recommendations for a solid champ at top?
I was thinking about udyr or ww, but meh I'm not sure :\
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