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United States47024 Posts
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.
It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.
Orianna is 4800
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o
The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o
Ori is definitely 4800 =P
Also I recommend getting Orianna. I think she brings more to the team than Brand, who is very good, but can't fit into as many teams as Orianna imo.
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On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr. It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP. Orianna is 4800 Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.
Thing is rolling Gunblade leaves such a small manapool and he eats so much of it. :S
I really don't know. Apparently shushei runs 9 21 0, Triforce, Gunblade, BV. Hmmmm.....
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France45622 Posts
I just got wrecked by Cassiopea as Swain. Too much range, too much spam, I couldn't cast anything without eating much more (and the fact that he had flat AP and boots) and I got outzoned, out farmed pretty hard and finished 0-2 after losing the tower. I don't feel like I could do anything.
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we did not have good ranked 5s games on NA today. sorry TL :<
from 2 elo from Gold to 47 away. Hopefully tomorrow will be a new day and we (or solo) can win games to achieve the glorious cause of Gold4All
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On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr. It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP. Orianna is 4800 Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.
its like AD vs AS. HP and armor/MR are needed in good quantities because each boosts the effectiveness of the other
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Watching Rain Man's stream, apparently TSM is doing a gaming house and all moving in with each other.
Rain Man : So we all agree on ONE BED right????
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 26 2011 09:46 tobi9999 wrote:
Watching Rain Man's stream, apparently TSM is doing a gaming house and all moving in with each other.
Rain Man : So we all agree on ONE BED right????
He'd get raped one day. TRM seems like the guy who'd take it.
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I really want to play janna mid, but every1 trolls me
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On August 26 2011 09:55 0123456789 wrote:
I really want to troll as janna mid, but every1 rapes me
Yeah, I get how that must feel like.
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On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr. It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP. Orianna is 4800 Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.
I think Triforce would be #1 item on skarner since he has really high base AD and he's pretty much constantly spamming his spells in fights.
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On August 26 2011 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o Ori is definitely 4800 =P Also I recommend getting Orianna. I think she brings more to the team than Brand, who is very good, but can't fit into as many teams as Orianna imo.
But also Ori is almost a permaban in ranked whereas Brand is rarely banned. So if you going to play her in ranked, forget it.
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People never ban Orianna when I played ranked ^_^ and my team is never first pick.
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Soraka is fucking broken now.
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On August 26 2011 11:05 TadH wrote:
Soraka is fucking broken now.
Soraka was fucking broken before too.
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On August 26 2011 10:26 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr. It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP. On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more. Orianna is 4800 On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.
I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?
Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO. I think Triforce would be #1 item on skarner since he has really high base AD and he's pretty much constantly spamming his spells in fights.
Triforce + Wits End makes you unstoppable 1v1 with Skarner.
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I do Triforce -> WE (if I need mr) or Randuin (for armor) or Gunblade (for more damage) into the other 3 then Nashor's tooth or GA if it gets really late game.
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Quick comparison:
Ryze Overload stats at levels 1/3/5/7/9, assuming he starts with Sapphire Crystal then gets boots and upgrades to Catalyst by level 7:
Range 675; Mana cost 70; CD 3.5; Damage 80/113/146/189/222; gives 2/4/6/8/10% CDR
Soraka Starcall stats at the same levels assuming 0 AP:
Hits all targets in range 660; Mana cost 35/40/45/50/55; CD 2.5; Damage 60/85/110/135/160; shreds 8/9/10/11/12 mres per cast
Now, you could argue that Overload sucks during the laning phase (and it kind of does), but Starcall's looking a little ridiculous atm.
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i love the new patch, i just wish it isnt taking a day to finish
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On August 26 2011 11:24 Zato-1 wrote:
Quick comparison:
Ryze Overload stats at levels 1/3/5/7/9, assuming he starts with Sapphire Crystal then gets boots and upgrades to Catalyst by level 7:
Range 675; Mana cost 70; CD 3.5; Damage 80/113/146/189/222; gives 2/4/6/8/10% CDR
Soraka Starcall stats at the same levels assuming 0 AP:
Hits all targets in range 660; Mana cost 35/40/45/50/55; CD 2.5; Damage 60/85/110/135/160; shreds 8/9/10/11/12 mres per cast
Now, you could argue that Overload sucks during the laning phase (and it kind of does), but Starcall's looking a little ridiculous atm.
this comparison doesn't make sense to me
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