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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:08:51
August 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#701
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.

It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.

On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

Orianna is 4800

On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:09:35
August 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#702
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

Ori is definitely 4800 =P

Also I recommend getting Orianna. I think she brings more to the team than Brand, who is very good, but can't fit into as many teams as Orianna imo.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 26 2011 00:15 GMT
#703
On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.

It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

Orianna is 4800

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.


Thing is rolling Gunblade leaves such a small manapool and he eats so much of it. :S

I really don't know. Apparently shushei runs 9 21 0, Triforce, Gunblade, BV. Hmmmm.....
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 26 2011 00:30 GMT
#704
I just got wrecked by Cassiopea as Swain. Too much range, too much spam, I couldn't cast anything without eating much more (and the fact that he had flat AP and boots) and I got outzoned, out farmed pretty hard and finished 0-2 after losing the tower. I don't feel like I could do anything.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
August 26 2011 00:32 GMT
#705
we did not have good ranked 5s games on NA today. sorry TL :<
from 2 elo from Gold to 47 away. Hopefully tomorrow will be a new day and we (or solo) can win games to achieve the glorious cause of Gold4All
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 26 2011 00:37 GMT
#706
On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.

It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

Orianna is 4800

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.


its like AD vs AS. HP and armor/MR are needed in good quantities because each boosts the effectiveness of the other
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 26 2011 00:46 GMT
#707
Watching Rain Man's stream, apparently TSM is doing a gaming house and all moving in with each other.

Rain Man : So we all agree on ONE BED right????
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 26 2011 00:53 GMT
#708
On August 26 2011 09:46 tobi9999 wrote:
Watching Rain Man's stream, apparently TSM is doing a gaming house and all moving in with each other.

Rain Man : So we all agree on ONE BED right????

He'd get raped one day. TRM seems like the guy who'd take it.
God Bless
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 26 2011 00:55 GMT
#709
I really want to play janna mid, but every1 trolls me
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 26 2011 01:17 GMT
#710
On August 26 2011 09:55 0123456789 wrote:
I really want to troll as janna mid, but every1 rapes me


Yeah, I get how that must feel like.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#711
On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.

It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

Orianna is 4800

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.

I think Triforce would be #1 item on skarner since he has really high base AD and he's pretty much constantly spamming his spells in fights.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 26 2011 01:28 GMT
#712
On August 26 2011 09:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

Ori is definitely 4800 =P

Also I recommend getting Orianna. I think she brings more to the team than Brand, who is very good, but can't fit into as many teams as Orianna imo.


But also Ori is almost a permaban in ranked whereas Brand is rarely banned. So if you going to play her in ranked, forget it.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 26 2011 01:49 GMT
#713
People never ban Orianna when I played ranked ^_^ and my team is never first pick.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
August 26 2011 02:05 GMT
#714
Soraka is fucking broken now.

StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
August 26 2011 02:10 GMT
#715
On August 26 2011 11:05 TadH wrote:
Soraka is fucking broken now.


Soraka was fucking broken before too.
You can't milk those!
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 26 2011 02:17 GMT
#716
On August 26 2011 10:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:
On August 26 2011 08:17 rob.au wrote:
LW/Void are why you don't want to just stack armor or mr.

It is true that LW/Void flatten the armor/HP cost-effectiveness line, but there's still always a point where armor/MR become more cost-effective than HP.

On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
^--- both are 6300. Save more.

Orianna is 4800

On August 26 2011 09:04 r.Evo wrote:
I just tried skarner for the first time, he feels fun but I'm not sure if he's actually any good.

I ran 9 0 21, should prolly be like 0 21 9 for solo top?

Manamune good? Just did Manamune -> Tank but didnt feel good. o.o

The only AD ratio he has is Q, while everything has OK AP scaling. Personally, I feel Gunblade is the best damage item to get on him, seeing as his hybrid scaling looks decent, and with no gap closer, he absolutely needs the Cutlass slow to really get anything done IMO.

I think Triforce would be #1 item on skarner since he has really high base AD and he's pretty much constantly spamming his spells in fights.



Triforce + Wits End makes you unstoppable 1v1 with Skarner.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 26 2011 02:18 GMT
#717
I do Triforce -> WE (if I need mr) or Randuin (for armor) or Gunblade (for more damage) into the other 3 then Nashor's tooth or GA if it gets really late game.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 26 2011 02:24 GMT
#718
Quick comparison:

Ryze Overload stats at levels 1/3/5/7/9, assuming he starts with Sapphire Crystal then gets boots and upgrades to Catalyst by level 7:

Range 675; Mana cost 70; CD 3.5; Damage 80/113/146/189/222; gives 2/4/6/8/10% CDR

Soraka Starcall stats at the same levels assuming 0 AP:

Hits all targets in range 660; Mana cost 35/40/45/50/55; CD 2.5; Damage 60/85/110/135/160; shreds 8/9/10/11/12 mres per cast

Now, you could argue that Overload sucks during the laning phase (and it kind of does), but Starcall's looking a little ridiculous atm.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Syorm
Profile Joined April 2011
131 Posts
August 26 2011 02:34 GMT
#719
i love the new patch, i just wish it isnt taking a day to finish
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 26 2011 02:38 GMT
#720
On August 26 2011 11:24 Zato-1 wrote:
Quick comparison:

Ryze Overload stats at levels 1/3/5/7/9, assuming he starts with Sapphire Crystal then gets boots and upgrades to Catalyst by level 7:

Range 675; Mana cost 70; CD 3.5; Damage 80/113/146/189/222; gives 2/4/6/8/10% CDR

Soraka Starcall stats at the same levels assuming 0 AP:

Hits all targets in range 660; Mana cost 35/40/45/50/55; CD 2.5; Damage 60/85/110/135/160; shreds 8/9/10/11/12 mres per cast

Now, you could argue that Overload sucks during the laning phase (and it kind of does), but Starcall's looking a little ridiculous atm.


this comparison doesn't make sense to me
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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