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On August 20 2011 16:18 LoCicero wrote:
I legitimately believe Ryze might be one of the strongest casters come end game. With Archangels - Mercs - Banshee's - Frozen Heart - Will of the Ancients - Void Staff there are very few champs in the game that can beat you one on one.
Random questions since I just stole your runes for Ryze. :>
1) Do you run 9 0 21 or something different? SoS is kinda great on him but 9 7 14 gets kinda awkward. Not using MPen in offense and rushing Void is not really an option.
2) What's your thought behind item order?
I usually stick to "tears when ahead or even, cata when behind" and then get the other. Sorc Boots > CDR boots, period. After that it's usually "Fed AD? Glacial." "Fed AP/tough lane? Banshees."
What I'm curious about is when and why you get Hextech / WotA / AA / Voidstaff. Mind rambling about that a bit?
I feel Ryze is just awesome 'cause he softcounters Orianna/Brand (similar to Morg actually, you tricky bastard =P), just the items get weird for me 'cause for each of the 3 above you have to invest quite some gold for them to be usefull.
3) How do you lane him vs Annie/Malz/Kassa?
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random question:
i just startet lol again after not playing it for a month or two and i noticed that i have roughly 100 less rating than before. im 100% certain about that. anyone knows what could have happened?
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On August 21 2011 00:30 Corvi wrote:
random question:
i just startet lol again after not playing it for a month or two and i noticed that i have roughly 100 less rating than before. im 100% certain about that. anyone knows what could have happened?
If you don't play ranked for a few weeks, your elo will decay bit a little bit per week until it hits 1400.
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woah that sucks ....
yea it decayed from around 1500 to exactly 1400.
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On August 21 2011 00:08 DanielZKlein wrote:I met a bunch of TL people at the IEM Teamliquid party last night. Awesome! Any of you at IEM today? What I can say publicly is that spec mode will come very very soon after Dominion and that spec mode did in fact include a LOT of the work necessary for replays  I will not confirm what I may or may not have said over a glass of Sangria (I can confirm the Sangria was amazing. Thanks Totalbiscuit)
nice casting as always.
edit: doo doo lol
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On August 21 2011 00:13 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 16:18 LoCicero wrote:
I legitimately believe Ryze might be one of the strongest casters come end game. With Archangels - Mercs - Banshee's - Frozen Heart - Will of the Ancients - Void Staff there are very few champs in the game that can beat you one on one. Random questions since I just stole your runes for Ryze. :> 1) Do you run 9 0 21 or something different? SoS is kinda great on him but 9 7 14 gets kinda awkward. Not using MPen in offense and rushing Void is not really an option. 2) What's your thought behind item order? I usually stick to "tears when ahead or even, cata when behind" and then get the other. Sorc Boots > CDR boots, period. After that it's usually "Fed AD? Glacial." "Fed AP/tough lane? Banshees." What I'm curious about is when and why you get Hextech / WotA / AA / Voidstaff. Mind rambling about that a bit? I feel Ryze is just awesome 'cause he softcounters Orianna/Brand (similar to Morg actually, you tricky bastard =P), just the items get weird for me 'cause for each of the 3 above you have to invest quite some gold for them to be usefull. 3) How do you lane him vs Annie/Malz/Kassa?
I run 1 8 21 with Exhaust and Flash (8 for SoS). I find Exhaust is pretty important because Ryze is pretty in-your-face, and exhaust helps to make sure you win those 1on1 exchanges. Ghost Flash is also acceptable. I wouldn't run anything other than that tbh. Don't run ignite, I think it's outright bad on Ryze (Jiji does though so I think a lot of people have a boner for it). Ryze is best mid, he's not great top because he has low mobility and not much cc.
My item order is almost always tear - lvl1boots - cata - mercs - glacial shroud - revolver - banshee, then finish my other items. My final items are Archangel's \ Mercs \ Banshee's \ Void Staff \ WoTA. I agree that getting a cata first if you're getting stomped in lane is a smart move. Don't get cooldown boots. You really don't need them. Your jungle should be letting you get pretty much all of the blue buffs after the first one and you won't really need cooldown boots later in the game. I would get sorcs or merc treads.
A good kassadin actually is very strong against ryze because of his silence. He can silence and force pulse you and it's hard for you to dish out damage to him because he can run away before the silence runs out. Once kass hits lvl 6 things can get ugly. Be careful about Kass. I think the biggest thing when laning against anyone is to always remember to trade hits whenever possible, or hit them when they are trying to last hit. Try to conserve mana at lvl 1 (if they come up and hit you, hit them back though, don't take free damage). I actually get E at lvl 1 because it has more range than W, gives magic reduction, and can bounce multiple times. It's better in lane. THe issue there is that sometimes jungles will gank early while I'm lvl 3 and I won't have W because taking Q is better in lane at lvl 3.
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Ugh, everyone playing Jax and ruining my games.
Not even because i have to face them on the lane but because 9/10 times it's someone else who proceeds to set Jax up for a life time of raping.
Not even fun, you literally can't hurt him and he just stomps everyone in the face.
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On August 21 2011 02:28 zalz wrote:
Ugh, everyone playing Jax and ruining my games.
Not even because i have to face them on the lane but because 9/10 times it's someone else who proceeds to set Jax up for a life time of raping.
Not even fun, you literally can't hurt him and he just stomps everyone in the face.
null mantle panth
gg jax
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On August 21 2011 02:31 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:28 zalz wrote:
Ugh, everyone playing Jax and ruining my games.
Not even because i have to face them on the lane but because 9/10 times it's someone else who proceeds to set Jax up for a life time of raping.
Not even fun, you literally can't hurt him and he just stomps everyone in the face. null mantle panth gg jax
People in LoL are known for taking advice on builds to heart.
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so is Pantheon not as strong as people thought he is? He's not picked at IEM and seems Jax and Garen is more in favor when it comes to the bruiser picks in games.
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I cant believe I'm doing this.
Discussion on LP.eu thats not being solved by either side.
a) "I am capable of doing X dps", valid statement, yes or no?
b) "I am capable of doing X dps to target A", valid statement yes or no?
In any definition I ever saw anywhere does the raw term "dps" NOT figure in the targets resistances and or random buffs/debuffs because that makes the term itself completely irrelevant.
DPS is, imho a theoretical stat that's used to determine maximum potential damage per second. That is not equal to "Actual damage done".
c) If you use the term "DPS" do you (not exactly LoL only, but in general) figure in the targets defenses or your own stats and those only?
Poll: How do you define the term "DPS"?I only use my own stats since "DPS" doesn't include targets defenses in its definition. (16) 94% DPS = damage done over time taken. That obviously includes defenders stats. (1) 6% 17 total votes Your vote: How do you define the term "DPS"? (Vote): I only use my own stats since "DPS" doesn't include targets defenses in its definition.
(Vote): DPS = damage done over time taken. That obviously includes defenders stats.
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On August 21 2011 03:21 broz0rs wrote:
so is Pantheon not as strong as people thought he is? He's not picked at IEM and seems Jax and Garen is more in favor when it comes to the bruiser picks in games.
IEM is played with the WuKong patch (aka "pantheon got his ult range reduced without anything to make up for it")
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Taking defense into account only makes it more confusing.
You make the base number 0 and in certain cases where it applies you might figure out certain numbers but it's pointless and confusing. If everyone takes 0 as the base then you can easily determine that total dps.
If you don't one person is gonna calculate his damage on a Soraka and the other on an ulti alli.
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no one ever talks about DPS in actual numbers for LoL. it's more of a feeling based thing.
this isn't end game raiding on WoW yo
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On August 21 2011 03:36 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
no one ever talks about DPS in actual numbers for LoL. it's more of a feeling based thing.
this isn't end game raiding on WoW yo
i am sorry, you cant come with us to Baron, you need more DPS!
When someone talks about dps, its normally raw outgoing dps to have better comparisons between each other. or you say "i do X dps ON Y"
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i'd only ever do maths for LoL if i was confused between certain options
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it's contextual, period. There's no default mitigated/unmitigated meaning
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The term of DPS comes from MMOs, where your damaged was measured by how much you did per second in a fight, which was obviously recorded as damage dealt, not theoretical damage.
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so sad they kicked us out before the last game. I am kinda mad at Gamescom I mean... I paid for a season ticket and I cant watch the games? wtf is that shit...
kudos to riot for making sure they actually got to play the last game instead of tomorrow saving the players the hassel.
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