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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 11:56:40
August 17 2011 11:56 GMT
#1301
Pretty sure matches are still going. The first match was crazy, insanely laggy and was not be-fit for spectators at all (5-10 minute forced lag breaks).

Not to mention that match was fucking ~1hr 40min
Everyone needs a nemesis.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 17 2011 12:09 GMT
#1302
I main Nasus. Need Nasus skin. As for dota2, there is separate forums for it now, and it is like dota except without push heroes.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 17 2011 12:23 GMT
#1303
On August 17 2011 20:28 mercurial wrote:
janna + panth is nice ^^


I never really got that. Mostly because you end up facing another support wich is gonna make your harass suck balls.

Maybe it's just that i don't like Janna but i think it's a waste to put Panth with her.


Once all the heals get nerfed into the ground however, the bottom meta is sure to shift and Jana/Pant might get better. A strong harass that no longer has to deal with incredible healing could make weaker laners (aka most carries) lose hard.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
August 17 2011 12:31 GMT
#1304
because when they ult together you can see TWO CIRCLES
:)
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 17 2011 12:47 GMT
#1305
On August 17 2011 17:19 gtrsrs wrote:
so i dunno if you guys have heard of him but

CruzertheBruzer 2200 elo stream

is so fking good. like seriously. it's sogut
http://www.own3d.tv/live/92861/Cruzerthebruzer

i watch this shit when i'm not streaming. fuckijng #1 leesin

I've seen this guy absolutely carrying some pretty good players with his lee sin, thanks for the link. He was on dan dinh's stream yesterday playing some boss lane lee, hopefully he posted that vod so I can check it out again.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 14:01:23
August 17 2011 14:01 GMT
#1306
On August 17 2011 21:23 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 20:28 mercurial wrote:
janna + panth is nice ^^


I never really got that. Mostly because you end up facing another support wich is gonna make your harass suck balls.

Maybe it's just that i don't like Janna but i think it's a waste to put Panth with her.


Once all the heals get nerfed into the ground however, the bottom meta is sure to shift and Jana/Pant might get better. A strong harass that no longer has to deal with incredible healing could make weaker laners (aka most carries) lose hard.



Protip:
You can't heal dead people or heal people when your dead.

Pantheon is somewhat good at the making someone look dead thing.
And obv janna adds dmg.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 17 2011 14:01 GMT
#1307
On August 17 2011 23:01 mercurial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 21:23 zalz wrote:
On August 17 2011 20:28 mercurial wrote:
janna + panth is nice ^^


I never really got that. Mostly because you end up facing another support wich is gonna make your harass suck balls.

Maybe it's just that i don't like Janna but i think it's a waste to put Panth with her.


Once all the heals get nerfed into the ground however, the bottom meta is sure to shift and Jana/Pant might get better. A strong harass that no longer has to deal with incredible healing could make weaker laners (aka most carries) lose hard.



Protip:
You can't heal dead people or heal people when your dead.

Pantheon is somewhat good at the making someone look dead thing.
And obv janna adds dmg.


Yeah Janna adds damage. So does Sion.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 14:04:22
August 17 2011 14:03 GMT
#1308
But Janna can save you from ganks with a shield, slow or knockup.

Sion has 1 stun to help with that.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 17 2011 14:28 GMT
#1309
On August 17 2011 23:03 mercurial wrote:
But Janna can save you from ganks with a shield, slow or knockup.

Sion has 1 stun to help with that.


Pantheon is awefully hard to gank. You use wards to prevent a gank from the river and any jungler that goes around wide (wich is only really possible if you are the left bot team) you can W into their face to safety.

I really don't see why such a strong laner like Pantheon should be bogged down on those nearly unwinnable bot lanes, notorious for them being healfests and farmfests.


Like i said with next patch breaking the spine of healing, things might change. But i still don't like Janna. I have seen people be crazy pro with her but i just don't feel she is a good support for Pantheon.

If Pantheon goes bot i would prefer that the entire lane gets played super offensive and Janna is rather defensive.

Two strong laners could really wreak havoc when healing gets knocked down a bit.


Janna isn't bad, i just don't like her and i certainly don't think she is a good champ to match with Panth.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 17 2011 14:33 GMT
#1310
Shield makes Pantheon hit like a truck. Slow + knockup good for not letting kids run from Panth.

What more do you want?
God Bless
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 17 2011 14:38 GMT
#1311
On August 17 2011 23:28 zalz wrote:
If Pantheon goes bot i would prefer that the entire lane gets played super offensive and Janna is rather defensive.

You see that Locodoco? I blame you for this.

Janna is an incredibly strong offensive support as long as the enemy cannot simply outsustain your setup. Ranged AD + Janna is relatively easy to outsustain as ranged AD + healer. But someone like Panth adds a ton of damage compared to the ranged AD.
That is assuming that you max W.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 17 2011 14:40 GMT
#1312
Pantheon Q scaling: 1.4
Pantheon E scaling: 3.6
5.0 AD scaling on his combo

Janna says, "here's a pickaxe at level 3. oh yea, and they're already slow... go nuts!"

GFG
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 14:46 GMT
#1313
Janna defensive LMAO she's probably the absolute shittiest defensive support in the game.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 17 2011 14:48 GMT
#1314
Depends if you're talking about laning or not because I'm pretty sure the ability to totally knock back their whole team is pretty damn defensive.

Her tornado is also great for counter engaging, though her slow and shield are best used agressively, so I guess that's why her laning can seem to be both.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 14:51 GMT
#1315
Her laning is absolutely offensive because of her toolset. Compared to supports like Soraka she MUST go on the offensive of her shield is useless (it's only cost effective if it gets broken).

AP Janna plays similar to AP Taric, although both of them struggle to get that farm, especially in this no-farm support meta.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 17 2011 14:53 GMT
#1316
On August 17 2011 23:33 Roffles wrote:
Shield makes Pantheon hit like a truck. Slow + knockup good for not letting kids run from Panth.

What more do you want?

Lux would be pretty nice too.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 14:58 GMT
#1317
On August 17 2011 23:53 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 23:33 Roffles wrote:
Shield makes Pantheon hit like a truck. Slow + knockup good for not letting kids run from Panth.

What more do you want?

Lux would be pretty nice too.


Lux would be good but...

*sobs*

unfortunately unlike Janna she needs farm.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#1318
So Im trying to watch the dota 2 stream to see if its any good or not. Anyone capable of explaining what is going on?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 17 2011 15:28 GMT
#1319
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254752
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 17 2011 15:44 GMT
#1320
See Craton, that would expose me to dotards. Which I dont want to do. I was hoping someone had a quick lol>dota champ converter.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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