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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 17 2011 18:39 GMT
#1341
I have trouble accepting that they basically removed taric's heal from the game

>.> I don't even feel like putting even 1 point into the thing after the nerf. The scaling sucks so you can't just stack early AP and use it at level 1, and it's certainly not cost-effective if you just use the base values.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 17 2011 18:54 GMT
#1342
Poll: Dota 2 or LoL

LoL (42)
 
74%

Dota 2 (15)
 
26%

57 total votes

Your vote: Dota 2 or LoL

(Vote): Dota 2
(Vote): LoL



Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 17 2011 18:55 GMT
#1343
Both probably.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#1344
Too early to say.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#1345
I feel obligated to vote Dota 2, and I hope in the future if one side teeters to one side that others do the same.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17293 Posts
August 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#1346
On August 17 2011 17:18 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 13:44 De4ngus wrote:
Yeah low elo ashe never arrow and I'm like you know you have an ult right?

On August 17 2011 13:14 Craton wrote:
Christ, Shurelia is probably the dumbest member of Riot staff. Any time she posts, everyone runs and hugs their favorite champions tightly and hopes they're not next.

(Does anyone else browse TL with their pillow on their lap and chin on said pillow?)


Sounds like your neck would hurt no?


I would have to do yoga for a year just to pull this off

craton how tall are you?

5'11"

The pillow isn't laying flat in my lap, lol. It's upright, like this:
[image loading]


On August 18 2011 02:04 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Taric and Nidalee changes can be found here

+ Show Spoiler +
Taric
Base attack speed increased to .625 from .613
Basic attacks against enemy champions now reduce Imbue’s cooldown by 4 seconds (still 2 seconds against other targets)

Imbue
Ability power ratio reduced to 0.6 from 1.1
Cooldown increased to 24/23/22/21/20 seconds from 16/15/14/13/12


Nidalee
Swipe AP ratio increased to 0.4 from 0.2
Aspect of the Cougar now grants 10/15/20 Armor and Magic Resist instead of 10% Dodge

Javelin Toss
Mana Cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100
Cooldown reduced to 6 from 7

Pounce
May now be affected by cooldown reduction
Cooldown increased to 3.5 from 3

Primal Surge
Mana cost changed to 60/80/100/120/140
Base heal changed to 50/85/120/155/190 from 60/90/120/150/180
AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.25
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 17 2011 19:03 GMT
#1347
On August 18 2011 03:57 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 17:18 travis wrote:
On August 17 2011 13:44 De4ngus wrote:
Yeah low elo ashe never arrow and I'm like you know you have an ult right?

On August 17 2011 13:14 Craton wrote:
Christ, Shurelia is probably the dumbest member of Riot staff. Any time she posts, everyone runs and hugs their favorite champions tightly and hopes they're not next.

(Does anyone else browse TL with their pillow on their lap and chin on said pillow?)


Sounds like your neck would hurt no?


I would have to do yoga for a year just to pull this off

craton how tall are you?

5'11"

The pillow isn't laying flat in my lap, lol. It's upright, like this:
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 02:04 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Taric and Nidalee changes can be found here

+ Show Spoiler +
Taric
Base attack speed increased to .625 from .613
Basic attacks against enemy champions now reduce Imbue’s cooldown by 4 seconds (still 2 seconds against other targets)

Imbue
Ability power ratio reduced to 0.6 from 1.1
Cooldown increased to 24/23/22/21/20 seconds from 16/15/14/13/12


Nidalee
Swipe AP ratio increased to 0.4 from 0.2
Aspect of the Cougar now grants 10/15/20 Armor and Magic Resist instead of 10% Dodge

Javelin Toss
Mana Cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100
Cooldown reduced to 6 from 7

Pounce
May now be affected by cooldown reduction
Cooldown increased to 3.5 from 3

Primal Surge
Mana cost changed to 60/80/100/120/140
Base heal changed to 50/85/120/155/190 from 60/90/120/150/180
AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.25




ohhh ok
don't you have to keep adjusting the pillow every once in a while?

also that sounds like the laziest way to sit ever haha
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 17 2011 19:20 GMT
#1348
I guess since every other heal is getting nerfed, Nidalee's heal will still be pretty insane. Blue buff on Nid is going to be just hillarious.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17293 Posts
August 17 2011 19:22 GMT
#1349
On August 18 2011 04:03 travis wrote:
ohhh ok
don't you have to keep adjusting the pillow every once in a while?

also that sounds like the laziest way to sit ever haha

It's super comfortable and no I don't need to move it much.
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sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 17 2011 19:33 GMT
#1350
On August 18 2011 03:57 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 17:18 travis wrote:
On August 17 2011 13:44 De4ngus wrote:
Yeah low elo ashe never arrow and I'm like you know you have an ult right?

On August 17 2011 13:14 Craton wrote:
Christ, Shurelia is probably the dumbest member of Riot staff. Any time she posts, everyone runs and hugs their favorite champions tightly and hopes they're not next.

(Does anyone else browse TL with their pillow on their lap and chin on said pillow?)


Sounds like your neck would hurt no?


I would have to do yoga for a year just to pull this off

craton how tall are you?

5'11"

The pillow isn't laying flat in my lap, lol. It's upright, like this:
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 02:04 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Taric and Nidalee changes can be found here

+ Show Spoiler +
Taric
Base attack speed increased to .625 from .613
Basic attacks against enemy champions now reduce Imbue’s cooldown by 4 seconds (still 2 seconds against other targets)

Imbue
Ability power ratio reduced to 0.6 from 1.1
Cooldown increased to 24/23/22/21/20 seconds from 16/15/14/13/12


Nidalee
Swipe AP ratio increased to 0.4 from 0.2
Aspect of the Cougar now grants 10/15/20 Armor and Magic Resist instead of 10% Dodge

Javelin Toss
Mana Cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100
Cooldown reduced to 6 from 7

Pounce
May now be affected by cooldown reduction
Cooldown increased to 3.5 from 3

Primal Surge
Mana cost changed to 60/80/100/120/140
Base heal changed to 50/85/120/155/190 from 60/90/120/150/180
AP ratio reduced to 0.7 from 1.25

i think from these last ~4 pages we can extrapolate that no, no one else sits that way. looks comfy though, gotta try it!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 19:38:36
August 17 2011 19:37 GMT
#1351

Greetings, Summoners!

Today we wanted to bring you a peek into the mechanics behind Talon, the Blade's Shadow, the new assassin that's joining the League!

Talon, the Blade's Shadow, is a physical damage assassin who specializes in high-mobility, high-risk, high-reward gameplay. Our goal with Talon was to create a powerful but fragile melee character with specialized tools to make him both deadly and evasive. As a result, what Talon lacks in durability and sustain, he dishes out in mobility and power.

The driving force behind Talon's gameplay is the way that he engages and disengages from combat using his four abilities:

Cutthroat: An ability that allows Talon to catch his enemies by surprise. Talon leaps behind his target and silences them for a short duration, amplifying the damage of any of his follow up attacks and abilities.
Noxian Diplomacy: Talon viciously stabs his enemy, dealing heavy physical damage and causing them to leave a blood trail that Talon can use to track them.
Rake: Talon fans out three blades in front of him that quickly return to him, dealing damage and slowing any target hit in either direction.
Shadow Assault (Ultimate): Talon enters stealth for a short duration, gaining a movement speed boost and sending blades that deal damage to all enemies in their path flying in every direction. Once the blades reach a certain distance, they pause and form a circle. When Talon reappears from stealth, the blades return to him, once again dealing damage to any opponent they pass through.
Mercy (Passive): Talon's auto-attacks deal additional damage to a target that is under the influence of any crowd control effect.


Playing Talon effectively is all about reading the situation and reacting strategically to your target. Shadow Assault can be either your saving grace or your deadliest advance. Using it to disappear can sting your target and leave them chasing ghosts. But if it's a fight you want, using it to initiate in conjuction with Cutthroat, Noxian Diplomacy, and Mercy can deal significant burst damage.

To sum up, Talon's a mean, shadowy, vicious assassin... and we're excited to see him join the League soon. And as a side note, his mobility and elusiveness makes him a very good pick on Dominion!


http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=361259

EDIT: Those changes to nid, ouch.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17293 Posts
August 17 2011 19:42 GMT
#1352
So basically release Vayne + Akali. Sounds fair.
twitch.tv/cratonz
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 17 2011 19:45 GMT
#1353
I've been in queue for 40 minutes. I give up.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#1354
On August 18 2011 04:45 LoCicero wrote:
I've been in queue for 40 minutes. I give up.

Stop being so fucking op as morg, then maybe servers will finally populate your queue with people who can play against it. ^_^
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#1355
it's cuz u forsake Panth IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#1356
Talon sounds like a stealth-based tanky dps.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 17 2011 20:05 GMT
#1357
what about him sounds tanky? he sounds like if shaco and vayne had a baby.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2011 20:06 GMT
#1358
He sounds like he has amazing innate skill damage so you can build him tanky like Irelia and voila tanky DPS.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 17 2011 20:08 GMT
#1359
Great, tanky dps now got stealthed. real riot champion ideas.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 17 2011 20:10 GMT
#1360
On August 18 2011 05:06 Southlight wrote:
He sounds like he has amazing innate skill damage so you can build him tanky like Irelia and voila tanky DPS.

Is this how far speculation has come? We don't even speculate how much his base damage is based on spotlights, but on verbal descriptions of the skills?

Can we please wait till we have more concrete information before coming up with absurd comparisons?
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