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Gandling
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 23:44:57
August 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#161
They've said its slated for release shortly after Pax Prime which is August 26-28, so maybe begining of sept?

I'm interested to see if they do anything to help Nasus and his Q, will be a shame if they dont as it would be little more than an auto attack reset/sheen proc.
Nem0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
August 22 2011 03:16 GMT
#162
Is there a way to watch the VODs of the Dominion Riot vs. Pros and the Riot vs. Riots inhouses? I only got to see one or so of the matches, but Phreak and someone else were casting them.

Very good stuff, can't wait until it comes out!!!
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
August 22 2011 12:51 GMT
#163
Question - Is there any chance that we might be able to create games with different ticket counts?

Would be nice to try a 250 or a 1000 ticket game among friends. Especially as there's no other game mode that would let you adjust the length of the game.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#164
On August 22 2011 21:51 jtype wrote:
Question - Is there any chance that we might be able to create games with different ticket counts?

Would be nice to try a 250 or a 1000 ticket game among friends. Especially as there's no other game mode that would let you adjust the length of the game.


Riot is prolly too afraid of IP farming to let that happen.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 22 2011 13:11 GMT
#165
Awsome, new map. I haven't played LoL in about an year, maybe this will get me into it again.
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 16:27:32
August 22 2011 16:26 GMT
#166
On August 22 2011 21:53 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 21:51 jtype wrote:
Question - Is there any chance that we might be able to create games with different ticket counts?

Would be nice to try a 250 or a 1000 ticket game among friends. Especially as there's no other game mode that would let you adjust the length of the game.


Riot is prolly too afraid of IP farming to let that happen.


Would be a simple case of just changing the amount of IP gained based on the ticket amount/game length. They already have measures in place to stop custom game IP farming anyway.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 22 2011 16:32 GMT
#167
I just hope there'll be ranked Dom, for banz and such.
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
August 22 2011 20:17 GMT
#168
draft mode at least. or replace ranked TT with ranked Dom
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 20:23:13
August 22 2011 20:21 GMT
#169
I assume Riot will release ranked Dominion at some point since it doesn't seem to me like it should be much work to do so.

There was a post on the official forums asking about altered Nexus HP values for Dominion and Riot said it's not included but they'd think about it (not that that means much). Right now they're not going to release it as-is but with customizable HP because the passive gold and experience gain (maybe other stuff too) is aimed at the current approximate 20 minute game length.

I don't see how IP-farming would affect allowing different Nexus HP values at all, since you already get more IP per time played by playing multiple short games instead of one long game unless you have long queues (and if you just make a custom with a friend you can already just sit in-game and not capture any points to allow for infinite game length with the default 500 HP, though I think IP gains cap out at somewhere around an hour).
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 22 2011 20:44 GMT
#170
On August 23 2011 05:21 crate wrote:
I assume Riot will release ranked Dominion at some point since it doesn't seem to me like it should be much work to do so.

There was a post on the official forums asking about altered Nexus HP values for Dominion and Riot said it's not included but they'd think about it (not that that means much). Right now they're not going to release it as-is but with customizable HP because the passive gold and experience gain (maybe other stuff too) is aimed at the current approximate 20 minute game length.

I don't see how IP-farming would affect allowing different Nexus HP values at all, since you already get more IP per time played by playing multiple short games instead of one long game unless you have long queues (and if you just make a custom with a friend you can already just sit in-game and not capture any points to allow for infinite game length with the default 500 HP, though I think IP gains cap out at somewhere around an hour).


Actually the red said that they would wait for release, and after a bit if its a popular 'wished-for' item they'll prioritize it ^^
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#171
They have the dominion items in the ingame store already, might be worth a look.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
August 24 2011 22:23 GMT
#172
Different Ticketcounts might happen if there is enough demand but it´s not just changing the number. Dominion is balanced around 500 score which includes the amount of gold and XP income as well as the point at which kill stop granting score.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
September 16 2011 20:13 GMT
#173
So basically Riot completely mishandled Dominion and everyone has lost hype for it.

And whatever happened to Magma chamber?
Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:53:41
September 16 2011 20:26 GMT
#174
Dominon hype was to counter the Dota 2 International Tournament hype.
At gamescom there were a lot more people at the Lol Booth than the Dota 2 booth.
It will take some time until Dominion is released.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 16 2011 20:30 GMT
#175
I'm thinking 3-4 patches from now (about a month and a half). Beta is starting soon, and knowing how efficient Riot has been in the past, it won't last too long.
It's your boy Guzma!
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 16 2011 20:35 GMT
#176
I have a feeling Riot is just going to delay Dominion till Dota 2's beta starts or something like that.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
September 21 2011 18:39 GMT
#177
I'm just going to bump this thread a bit, since closed beta is started and we can just use this to talk about it now (and let people know when the time windows are open).
the farm ends here
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 18:41:16
September 21 2011 18:40 GMT
#178
You beat me to it by about 30 seconds

qq

Anyway, I'll reiterate what I said in GD:
Balance is terrible. Captures award very little compared to zerging kills. Bruisers/Assassins are king.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:12:24
September 21 2011 19:11 GMT
#179
Some theorycraft to start a discussion... from the games I played and the streams I watched I think dominion will probably be played somewhat like this IMO:

The lineup consist of a number of pushers (with promote), letz say 2, who constantly push the lane equivalents. Champions like lee sin, singed, jax etc come to mind who can't be killed by a low amount of opponents and scale great with farm. Tanky AD champs like lee sin are very suited for this because warmogs stacks up REAL FAST on this map, singed is suited because catalyst is super broken (you get level ups so freaking fast), and thus even roa if only because of the passive and the fact that you farm it so incredibly fast.

Then you get about 3ish roamers who engage the enemy where possible/fitting, defend capture points, help out the pushers if they get zerged and complete quests. Everything with strong disables and burst would do well. You need somebody who leads the pack, like ali/blitz or whatever, then somebody who can poke/kite well if outnumbered and also for canceling capturing then mb some burst like talon or poppy etc.

Creep support is not AS important as in SR but its certainly huge. Also the additional gold you farm from minions is pretty huge considering you get more gold from csing and less from killing in dominion.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 21 2011 19:31 GMT
#180
Atmogs sounds pretty good. As clickrush said, you can stack the warmogs quickly with champion kills. The map has built-in armor and MR penetration, so health is a relatively better defense stat. The dominion items have health, so atma is even stronger when you get them. The question is always how much can you get done before atmogs completes, when you are relatively weak compared to building other things.
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