TT had issues in that they failed to properly balance heroes/items etc. It's largely the same as SR, only on a smaller map, rife with issues that were never dealt with. I also feel that Riot's goal with TT was simply "to release a new map," without much further thought.

My hope is that they've learned from TT and are actually going to put effort into Dom, which they've implied via the different items, summoner spells, etc. that are very much for Dom. The question will obviously be balance, which is currently something they're "waiting and seeing" but if shit really hits the fan (ie. tanks are too dominant) we'll really see how much effort they're willing to put into that map.

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Bearded Elder29903 Posts

August 20 2011 22:22 GMT

#146

On August 21 2011 06:52 OscarN wrote:

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do u think he would be on the TL sub forums ?

lol selfowned

Craton

United States17250 Posts

August 21 2011 06:38 GMT

#147

Maybe I can start playing Renekton again. I still think mobile bruisers like Jax are going to rape everything in sight.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

August 21 2011 19:26 GMT

#148

From watching the stream i have a feeling that the strongest champ here may be nidalee, it seems that the 2 most important attributes of a good dominion champ are: mobility and strong 1v1, nidalee has both and dominion has quite a few bushes as a bonus. Also good defenders with nice amount of cc seem to be important: amumu (aoe ult, stun q, overall tankiness), heimer (towers so strong at defending points), and ... sona (her ability to kite and heal seems to be really good for holding points by running around the "turret")

Plus cait lifesteal-tanked enemies so hard, new BF sword seems soooo strong

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

August 21 2011 19:45 GMT

#149

Any champion who can sit and disrupt capture points with their sheer presence also would be strong. Sustained AoE and damage with inherent tankiness like Amumu/Mundo seem like they would be excellent to just head over to a group of enemies capturing a point and disrupting/delaying them until backup can arrive.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

August 21 2011 20:07 GMT

#150

dominion confirmed free, very cool

noezke

England514 Posts

August 21 2011 20:11 GMT

#151

Looks amazingly fun

can't wait. Can see some champions being nerfed because of how powerful they'll be in Dominion :| which will suck for 5v5.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

August 21 2011 20:13 GMT

#152

On August 22 2011 05:11 noezke wrote:
Looks amazingly fun

can't wait. Can see some champions being nerfed because of how powerful they'll be in Dominion :| which will suck for 5v5.

Dominion IS 5v5.

Also earlier on stream Phreak and Rivington said that they aren't going to be balancing champions for map but map for champions.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

August 21 2011 20:14 GMT

#153

On August 22 2011 05:11 noezke wrote:
Looks amazingly fun

can't wait. Can see some champions being nerfed because of how powerful they'll be in Dominion :| which will suck for 5v5.

Honestly I doubt they will balance champions around Dominion.
They already said they're most likely to balance items instead (which they have), not to mention the sheer frenzy of the games (insane gold/sec, early power, small constant teamfights) means it's unlikely the one champion will dominate really hard and be OP in this game mode like Mundo/Singed/Udyr on TT for example.

Nightmare1795

United States222 Posts

August 21 2011 20:15 GMT

#154

On August 22 2011 05:11 noezke wrote:
Looks amazingly fun

can't wait. Can see some champions being nerfed because of how powerful they'll be in Dominion :| which will suck for 5v5.

If a champ is too powerful in Dominion they should just make that champ unplayable in Dominion IMO.

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

August 21 2011 20:52 GMT

#155

beautiful chics are playing dominion rightnow :d

rupert

182 Posts

August 21 2011 21:37 GMT

#156

I don't know if it's because of the teams that are playing right now, but I am not impressed by what i see on the stream. It so ridiculous. Maybe the respawn time is too fast because people just suicide left and right.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

August 21 2011 22:00 GMT

#157

On August 22 2011 06:37 rupert wrote:
I don't know if it's because of the teams that are playing right now, but I am not impressed by what i see on the stream. It so ridiculous. Maybe the respawn time is too fast because people just suicide left and right.

The game is won by destroying enemy nexus, not by having the best KDA. The same actually applies to SR. I think it's really cool that people can afford to die for points, really makes the game more aggressive. Though this is played by all riot people so not the best indicator of what real makes will look like

Eppa!

Sweden4641 Posts

August 21 2011 22:10 GMT

#158

I think the game is going to come down to having a really strong team at 15 min and then just sitting on 3 bases.

Edit: Dominion is not going to have a pool of more than 20 viable heroes at the most. SR rift has basically all classes viable because it balance for that, Support makes no sense on dominion as they have long cd ultis and limited early game strength. Ranged DPS are going to have a lot of the not being viable such as MF and Ashe. Corki and Trist might become semiviable.

crate

United States2474 Posts

August 21 2011 22:12 GMT

#159

Well there are clearly cases of people sticking around for no reason and then dying (several times we've seen 100-hp or so champs standing on a capture point and then just instantly die when an opponent shows up). But there have also been a lot of cases where Phreak is showing a teamfight and then it ends and you look up at the status of the game and the team that just won the teamfight is down 4-1 in points because they lost 2 during the fight. Clearly the first case is a terrible suicide but in the second case dragging on the fight even if you were losing seems to have worked.

But I mean we just saw a full-defense Renekton in several games despite the fact that it was obvious he didn't actually have the damage to do anything, so it's not like this is necessarily high level Dominion play.