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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:21:22
August 06 2011 23:18 GMT
#1361
Ok mordekaiZer is an amazing troll when you really wanna win a noob elo game

I just was like npnp and warded and pushed topline like aboss, got enemy Inhibitor at 18min with 180 minion kills, 23min surrender with me having 5 turret kills and 7-2
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:19:57
August 06 2011 23:19 GMT
#1362
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG
:)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:23:17
August 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#1363
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


What does that have to do with the majority TL being extremely judging of high elo play even though they really can't have anything to say.

I'm still confused that you asked people if they know me, as if I said I know them. What's your id?

and wtf I'm not a friend of ScY. I also don't think I'm bm but that's a different story. Saint mean.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:22:38
August 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#1364
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

da maZterkaiZer of page 69, so obviously I would do that. It's my plan on the next general discussion thread as well!

On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.

Hey cuz I know Kerp whos 2.3k elo on EU it means that I'm a big name, isn't that right?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:24:00
August 06 2011 23:22 GMT
#1365
On August 07 2011 08:21 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

da maZterkaiZer of page 69, so obviously I would do that. It's my plan on the next general discussion thread as well!

it's on, bitch! ):<
:)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 06 2011 23:24 GMT
#1366
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

Listen to unichan. She has SAINTVICIOUS on her friends list. She's that fucking cool and good at this game.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:25:38
August 06 2011 23:25 GMT
#1367
whoah unichan laying down the smack talk. actually unichan and I both have uni at the start of our names and sometimes we chat esp when s/he gets me banned, so really we are like best friends. and uni knows lots of high elo guys so really it's like I'm high elo, actually I'm kind of famous really. I'm really fuckin famous.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#1368
ALSO: dyrus talked about me on stream once, pretty sure I can call whoever I want garbage now.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#1369
On August 07 2011 08:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
whoah unichan laying down the smack talk. actually unichan and I both have uni at the start of our names and sometimes we chat esp when s/he gets me banned, so really we are like best friends. and uni knows lots of high elo guys so really it's like I'm high elo, actually I'm kind of famous really. I'm really fuckin famous.

But you didn't talk to her in person like r33k did to people at Dreamhack so it doesn't count. Sorry bro.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
August 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#1370
Highest elo I have on friends is Rolos, and its been 6+ months since I played with him lol
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:32:26
August 06 2011 23:30 GMT
#1371
Yo I'll have you know I fucking played in a league with inept, ShakeDrizzle, ChrispySC, and SmashGizmo.

They're all high elo players WHAT'S GOOD NOW R33K

edit: we beat some 1300 elo players we're the best
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 23:30 GMT
#1372
And you guys wonder why everyone hates you.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:34:26
August 06 2011 23:33 GMT
#1373
On August 07 2011 08:24 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

Listen to unichan. She has SAINTVICIOUS on her friends list. She's that fucking cool and good at this game.

Is this an ego contest? I has coloured name on the LoL Fourms and have Rioters and stuff on my FList I can contact them irl too and like I can access hidden sections of the Forums and like Neo and Shake are on my NA FList and they're cool guys so do I gets a prize?

On a different note, I have a question. How do you play a Janna+someone bot lane as the Janna? Since you don't have a heal you can't keep your lane partner topped up and it feels like you get harassed down unless you tower hug or something esp if you're against Cait who out-ranges most people. Also, when do you Shield? Using it whenever it's off CD feels bad.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#1374
On August 07 2011 08:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 08:24 HazMat wrote:
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

Listen to unichan. She has SAINTVICIOUS on her friends list. She's that fucking cool and good at this game.

Is this an ego contest? I has coloured name on the LoL Fourms and have Rioters and stuff on my FList I can contact them irl too and like I can access hidden sections of the Forums and like Neo and Shake are on my NA FList and they're cool guys so do I gets a prize?

On a different note, I have a question. How do you play a Janna+someone bot lane as the Janna? Since you don't have a heal you can't keep your lane partner topped up and it feels like you get harassed down unless you tower hug or something esp if you're against Cait who out-ranges most people. Also, when do you Shield? Using it whenever it's off CD feels bad.

Removing you so I can win this ego contest. Sorry, pal.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
August 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#1375
On August 07 2011 08:30 r33k wrote:
And you guys wonder why everyone hates you.

TOO BAD NO ONE CARES ABOUT ANY OF THOSE GUYS, DNA, HAHA.

and no, r33k, i dont think they really do. but if you're looking for a reason as to why everyone is hating on you right now, it's because you came in here with your pretentious I KNOW HIGH ELO PEOPLE talk. i have nothing against it really because i do it all the time myself so i know how it feels to be perceived as a self important douche smelling his own farts. i'm just telling you that if you don't want people to keep being mean to you, tone down your posts a little, even if you're not trying to come across that way at all. if you wanna do your own thing, then fine, go ahead, i just want to give some friendly advice because i am a friendly person and not a bitch.

also is TL running reallllyyy slowly for anyone else because it's making it hard to post T_T
:)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 06 2011 23:40 GMT
#1376
On August 07 2011 08:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 08:24 HazMat wrote:
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

Listen to unichan. She has SAINTVICIOUS on her friends list. She's that fucking cool and good at this game.

Is this an ego contest? I has coloured name on the LoL Fourms and have Rioters and stuff on my FList I can contact them irl too and like I can access hidden sections of the Forums and like Neo and Shake are on my NA FList and they're cool guys so do I gets a prize?

On a different note, I have a question. How do you play a Janna+someone bot lane as the Janna? Since you don't have a heal you can't keep your lane partner topped up and it feels like you get harassed down unless you tower hug or something esp if you're against Cait who out-ranges most people. Also, when do you Shield? Using it whenever it's off CD feels bad.



i think janna needs more teamplay and understanding between the 2 laners, you shield when he wants to harass or get a lasthit that makes him vulnerable.
but the things you said are exactly why janna isnt as strong as soraka/taric in a duo lane.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
August 06 2011 23:43 GMT
#1377
On August 07 2011 08:33 MoonBear wrote:
Is this an ego contest? I has coloured name on the LoL Fourms and have Rioters and stuff on my FList I can contact them irl too and like I can access hidden sections of the Forums and like Neo and Shake are on my NA FList and they're cool guys so do I gets a prize?

On a different note, I have a question. How do you play a Janna+someone bot lane as the Janna? Since you don't have a heal you can't keep your lane partner topped up and it feels like you get harassed down unless you tower hug or something esp if you're against Cait who out-ranges most people. Also, when do you Shield? Using it whenever it's off CD feels bad.


Moonbear wins just because he consistently contributes without the need to increase his E-pen and still can show off all his namedrops and riot friends :3

I mostly shield when it's needed aka: I see the AD go in for last hits that might make them harassable.
If the AD is going in to harass.
If I see that the AD is not going to dodge that Q from cait but rather do the run-into-it-like-a-boss routine.

Else from that I agree that Janna seems a bit weak in support+ad lane unless you have Janna+Cait (in which case you should be able to utilize the range to not be that heal dependent), atleast compared to the fact that almost every other support (if not all) has a heal and some sort of defense buff (taric shatter, Sona aura, Soraka heal+passive). I am wondering wether or not Karma+something might aswell do the same job as Janna+something in the laning phase (while you sacrifice the bonus dmg on shield you get a heal ). While Janna's ult still is awesome in teamfights and stuff.

Spines will probably answer this better than me though.
washed
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
August 06 2011 23:51 GMT
#1378
MoonBear is #1 poster on TL LoL for sure.

We all hate you, r33k, because you're bad and you can't recognize that you're bad.

Playing as Janna, realize that you can win trades as long as your shield is up. Sona's Heal/Mana efficiency is terrible at early stages, Soraka's heal is very long CD at early levels, and you can reaction shield to Taric's stun most of the time. You need to know your lane partner well, though, because you need to know when to push in and when to passively farm. You just need to be careful about it, and it's hard to play well. Just takes practice.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 07 2011 00:01 GMT
#1379
Everyone manner up please.

It's ok if you don't agree with someone opinion but let's not have things get out of hand. Be constructive, be productive. Let's not debase our subforum to "you're bad" standards.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 07 2011 00:04 GMT
#1380
On August 07 2011 08:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 08:24 HazMat wrote:
On August 07 2011 08:19 unichan wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:44 dnastyx wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.

HAY GUISE SOMEONE CALLED?
who is r33k anyways, is he just some guy who went to dh, talked to some top players, and now namedrops like it's A MIDSUMMER HAILSTORM
tip: don't namedrop unless you can back it up, you'll end up looking desperate instead of cool and in the know. actually you'll always come off as some kind of wannabe if you're one of the high elo guy's low elo/unknown friends.

edit: shikyo steal my first post on page 69 T_T Y U DO DAT MENG

Listen to unichan. She has SAINTVICIOUS on her friends list. She's that fucking cool and good at this game.

Is this an ego contest? I has coloured name on the LoL Fourms and have Rioters and stuff on my FList I can contact them irl too and like I can access hidden sections of the Forums and like Neo and Shake are on my NA FList and they're cool guys so do I gets a prize?

On a different note, I have a question. How do you play a Janna+someone bot lane as the Janna? Since you don't have a heal you can't keep your lane partner topped up and it feels like you get harassed down unless you tower hug or something esp if you're against Cait who out-ranges most people. Also, when do you Shield? Using it whenever it's off CD feels bad.


Pretty sure you just hide and try to make it to midgame since you're not winning a lane against Soraka/Taric/Sona.
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