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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 06 2011 22:03 GMT
#1341
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 06 2011 22:05 GMT
#1342
On August 07 2011 05:58 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 05:00 HazMat wrote:
No wonder LoL players hate TL. Lately it's just been a bunch of noobies hating on high Elo players.

No, that probably has a lot more to do with the old TL team having players would troll / be dicks in solo q. I doubt many "top" players even know this subforum exists, let alone care.

I laugh at the notion that people should only worship high Elo players or not post at all.

No. I understand no one likes ScY (can't blame them) but even before when he was on the team I heard from people that lurk this forum about how TL trashtalks SO much and then assumed that people posting in these forums = people on the TL LoL team.

Just look at every single r33k post. Who the fuck is he? Some Italian LoL player?
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 22:10:19
August 06 2011 22:07 GMT
#1343
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#1344
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.

I missed the game. Was NyJacky playing Veigar? Apparently his Veigar is one of the best.
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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#1345
On August 07 2011 07:08 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.

I missed the game. Was NyJacky playing Veigar? Apparently his Veigar is one of the best.


Yeah, NyJacky Veigar. He got exploded for first blood and then after that just killed whoever he pleased with full combo at will.

I was a bit surprised since I thought he was a dedicated bot carry player from other tournaments.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
August 06 2011 22:14 GMT
#1346
The Veigar play struck me as pretty average. SV failed pretty hard that game in general. He missed ult at least once, overlapped stuns with top, got caught and died to mid. Renekton is a pretty shitty pick in general, too.

Bot should've done much better for CLG.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 22:15 GMT
#1347
Nyjacky was solomid veigar vs Jiji annie. Jiji went lv1 stun and got bursted to 100 hp after Crs denied saint mumu his blue. Jiji didn't b but had no lv2 pressure and got bursted again to 100 hp at lv4. Nyjacky doesn't miss a single cs until lv 4.

Jiji lv6 tibbers FB'ed nyjacky, nyjacky comes back and kills him back. 2-3 mins later nyjacky has a dfg, saint breaks the first rule of amumu and goes philo stone into delayed aegis, fails 3 ganks from lv6 top on jax and bot capitalizes getting dragon.

Lapakaa nocturne had perfect map presence holding lanes (especially a very low top) and allowing jax to come back and take a tower against HSGG croc and get free farm for the rest of the game.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#1348
On August 07 2011 07:15 r33k wrote:
Jiji lv6 tibbers FB'ed nyjacky, nyjacky comes back and kills him back. 2-3 mins later nyjacky has a dfg, saint breaks the first rule of amumu and goes philo stone into delayed aegis, fails 3 ganks from lv6 top on jax and bot capitalizes getting dragon.

How is that breaking the first rule of Amumu?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
August 06 2011 22:25 GMT
#1349
'cause r33k uses terrible builds.

Veigar had lane dominance because of his team, not because of his own play. CLG not defending blue put SV behind (so no early gank) and the 3 man gank on mid gave Nyjacky control of the lane. Remember that Veigar went level 1 stun, so he didn't have anything to burst Annie with at level 1 -- it was entirely his team's doing.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 22:27 GMT
#1350
On August 07 2011 07:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:15 r33k wrote:
Jiji lv6 tibbers FB'ed nyjacky, nyjacky comes back and kills him back. 2-3 mins later nyjacky has a dfg, saint breaks the first rule of amumu and goes philo stone into delayed aegis, fails 3 ganks from lv6 top on jax and bot capitalizes getting dragon.

How is that breaking the first rule of Amumu?

Because delayed aegis after getting your blue denied on a carry=bad.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#1351
On August 07 2011 07:27 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:23 TheYango wrote:
On August 07 2011 07:15 r33k wrote:
Jiji lv6 tibbers FB'ed nyjacky, nyjacky comes back and kills him back. 2-3 mins later nyjacky has a dfg, saint breaks the first rule of amumu and goes philo stone into delayed aegis, fails 3 ganks from lv6 top on jax and bot capitalizes getting dragon.

How is that breaking the first rule of Amumu?

Because delayed aegis after getting your blue denied on a carry=bad.

Jungle Amumu is a carry?
The FIRST rule of Amumu is about not delaying a certain item in the case that a certain jungle pattern gets disrupted? That's gotta be a fancy set of rules.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
August 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#1352
I missed the patch went Amumu went from tank to carry.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 22:32:23
August 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#1353
On August 07 2011 07:27 r33k wrote:
Because delayed aegis after getting your blue denied on a carry=bad.

I can see that being a bad decision, sure (didn't see that part of the game, so don't know that Saint go denied and can't really comment), but still confused what part of that you're referring to as a rule.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 06 2011 22:38 GMT
#1354
On August 07 2011 05:00 HazMat wrote:
No wonder LoL players hate TL. Lately it's just been a bunch of noobies hating on high Elo players.


where
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 06 2011 22:39 GMT
#1355
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


so you're someone because you speak to top players, cool.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
August 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#1356
On August 07 2011 07:07 r33k wrote:
^honestly, whoruing only hurts you. Out of CLG, TSM and EG only saint had heard of you and told me "oh, he's the bm friend of scy". Since DH I have kept contact with dyrus and spoke with dan dinh, chaox and xpecial a couple times. Stop assuming shit.


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 07:03 APurpleCow wrote:
Finally Veigar getting some high ELO love. Been saying he's amazing for at least a month.

The 15 min dfg made him good, also the kill coming back to lane right after being FB'd was pretty good on his part. I was expecting CLG to play bot lane as a full on deny lane since cait/taric have so much burst, but the peel from janna and lee sin was too much for CLG who also had to push the lane.


No one cares about you name dropping. Unichan is like ~1500 and knows more high elo players than you. YEAHHH YOU'RE GETTING BEAT BY A 12 YEAR OLD BOY.

Maybe people will take you seriously once you show you know anything about this game. You have never given a good piece of advice on this forum.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#1357
So anyways, here's the deal with Philo when you get denied your blue: Amumu can't jungle well without blue at all - Philo gives him enough MP5 to still go on decently. Reverie isn't too bad on him either. And a bit of early gold/10 doesn't hurt on him.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
August 06 2011 23:15 GMT
#1358
"Dan is the leader of EG and calls the shots"

something Dyrus told me in person

clearing the air~
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 06 2011 23:16 GMT
#1359
On August 07 2011 04:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:53 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
CLG has so much damage potential but they haven't been able to pull it off yet as 5. CC too strong... guess that's why textbook does win most games.


hah, it's funny, I was watching the game and thinking 'col has too much cc...', as in 'too much for their own good, this comp is bad.'


That loss was definitely not team comp loss. If anything, I think coL had the better picks but CLG just flat out played superior as a team during endgame team fights.

Edit: Ashe got farmed, as did Annie, but had stacked items. Not sure what HaoZ was complaining about in regards to his Zhonya's but do note that after the 20 minute mark, jiji and Chau always did damage, never die.


Oh I definitely wouldn't say the team comp decided the game, but I do think CLG had a better one. These CC stack teams are just never as strong as people think, they don't have much sustained damage and they get weaker and weaker as the game goes on and people get counter items.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 06 2011 23:17 GMT
#1360
On August 07 2011 07:55 spinesheath wrote:
So anyways, here's the deal with Philo when you get denied your blue: Amumu can't jungle well without blue at all - Philo gives him enough MP5 to still go on decently. Reverie isn't too bad on him either. And a bit of early gold/10 doesn't hurt on him.

I'm guessing that given r33k's past dislike of Aegis, his problem is with getting Aegis, not Philo.
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