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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 20:21 GMT
#1321
ATLANTA SUCH A BEAST.

Why does that guy carry a team of 4 scrubs to go4lols and get sacked all the times?
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
August 06 2011 20:21 GMT
#1322
real terror janna right now.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#1323
If that doesn't make top play in whatever highlights video of the week I'll be seriously pissed. Who gets a kill from a 2v1 gank with a pushed lane without using flash on a lv3 WEW janna.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#1324
On August 07 2011 05:15 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:59 r33k wrote:
I disagree with CoL having better picks. Caitlyn and Brand are 100% CLG style carries, they can do their full damage from a completely safe position and are the best counterinitiators for their respective roles.


That's just jiji and Chau excelling with their respective champions. That doesn't make their team comp better. CLG picked to their strengths but they had to play clean and solid for the win. First 20 minutes of the game was entirely in coL's hands.

The game was going to turn into pokewars if CoL couldn't finish it before cait and brand got their core items. imo HS was MVP there for being able to rack up farm up top and allow his team to trade stuff for what CoL's 5 man roam was going to get.


Except I didn't really see much poking being done, unless you mean simply clearing waves. But then any AP/AD duo should be able to clear waves fast. When coL was seiging mid, CLG really held strong by never getting out of position for Ali/Taric. Good CV and traps by jiji. I feel that Ali/Taric should have been able to initiate for coL a lot more frequently, even at the cost of their own death, if it meant Brand/Cait dying. There was too much pansy footsie by coL which I think was due cawcawcaw. Flash/Pulverize, Flash/Cresendo was all that was needed. They had Baron buff too (coL).

Regardless, great play by CLG to "comeback" from midgame deficient.
Totally agree with you on hsgg being MVP that game.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:28:06
August 06 2011 20:26 GMT
#1325
fuck, typing up response and apparently I missed out on a gud play. >_>

Atlanta's never been sacked as much as him leaving teams on his own free will.

Edit: GoSu vs Blight Gaming now
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 20:28 GMT
#1326
On August 07 2011 05:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 05:15 r33k wrote:
On August 07 2011 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 07 2011 04:59 r33k wrote:
I disagree with CoL having better picks. Caitlyn and Brand are 100% CLG style carries, they can do their full damage from a completely safe position and are the best counterinitiators for their respective roles.


That's just jiji and Chau excelling with their respective champions. That doesn't make their team comp better. CLG picked to their strengths but they had to play clean and solid for the win. First 20 minutes of the game was entirely in coL's hands.

The game was going to turn into pokewars if CoL couldn't finish it before cait and brand got their core items. imo HS was MVP there for being able to rack up farm up top and allow his team to trade stuff for what CoL's 5 man roam was going to get.


Except I didn't really see much poking being done, unless you mean simply clearing waves. But then any AP/AD duo should be able to clear waves fast. When coL was seiging mid, CLG really held strong by never getting out of position for Ali/Taric. Good CV and traps by jiji. I feel that Ali/Taric should have been able to initiate for coL a lot more frequently, even at the cost of their own death, if it meant Brand/Cait dying. There was too much pansy footsie by coL which I think was due cawcawcaw. Flash/Pulverize, Flash/Cresendo was all that was needed. They had Baron buff too (coL).

Regardless, great play by CLG to "comeback" from midgame deficient.
Totally agree with you on hsgg being MVP that game.

Their poking refers to what I said in my other post, basically CoL was completely reliant on an ali or taric flash for initiating over CLG's range.

And WTF was mandatory doing there. TPs onto ally 100 hp nocturne and runs the other way without ulting him.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#1327
Last patch, laning Udyr and WW

This patch, laning Janna and Taric

Real amusing LoL community...
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 20:39 GMT
#1328
You're forgetting Galio over Teemo.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:56:32
August 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#1329
Casting so terrible. Gbob and colby seem so awkward together.

r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 20:57 GMT
#1330
Are there dodge per lvl runes on live? Watching HS stream tournament client and sone of the rune types unlocked I've never seen before.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:01:48
August 06 2011 20:58 GMT
#1331
On August 07 2011 05:00 HazMat wrote:
No wonder LoL players hate TL. Lately it's just been a bunch of noobies hating on high Elo players.

No, that probably has a lot more to do with the old TL team having players would troll / be dicks in solo q. I doubt many "top" players even know this subforum exists, let alone care.

I laugh at the notion that people should only worship high Elo players or not post at all.
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:13:34
August 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#1332
On August 07 2011 05:58 Craton wrote:
I laugh at the notion that people should only worship high Elo players or not post at all.

r33k's been saying some pretty presumptuous stuff about high Elo players (e.g. his comment about Dan not leading last page) without any real sort of proof. It's one thing to constructively criticize their play, but I was under the impression that Dan's pretty well known for being in good standing with his team and calling the shots--and IIRC Neo's mentioned prior that he's gotten similar opinions talking to Dyrus. If you're going to present something contrary to the prevailing thought as fact (i.e. the EG players complaining about Dan not making calls), you're going to need some proof.

Unless he offers some proof that he gets more interaction with the EG players than Neo or numbers/has some inside source, I'm going to assume he's trolling/sensationalizing.
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:13:34
August 06 2011 21:12 GMT
#1333
I'm never playing with Uta/Southlight on main again.

First Queue: Locodoco and Co

second Queue: Neo, SYDTKO, and WODX

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. 1300 player matched up against 2400 player.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2011 21:15 GMT
#1334
r33k tends to do that though...

Dan does lead EG. If you've talk to any of the high elo players, a lot of them will tell you that the Dinh brothers have a natural knack at running their respective teams. Only reason why r33k's "sensational" comment has any ground is because of DH. Dan didn't really step up there, probably due to new environment and high stakes, so I don't blame him. But in scrims, you can tell Dan take reins in vent.
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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 06 2011 21:19 GMT
#1335
On August 07 2011 04:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
dat hsgg, gets caught top a bunch of times, goes 0-4-2. Then decides to get a triple kill for CLG with saint landing a solid ulti. zz

Free Baron

Edit: And I want to mention that hs "getting caught" was not necessary a bad thing for his team in this game. He got the farm he needed and top tower. Gave bottom a free lane to saint who managed to get a bot tower too. Just really lolz what a farmed Jax can do even after "feeding", huk.


It's weird but watching Hotshot play top lane, a lot of his problem is that "getting caught" is basically just his playstyle which gets him killed in solo queue because his team can't do anything with it, but jiji and Chauster know how to capitalize. It's such a solo queue seeming playstyle but games like this really show he's a ... real team player?

...as long as it's not Malz who just gets gibbed immediately. Needs to stop that shit with Malz.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 06 2011 21:22 GMT
#1336
On August 07 2011 06:19 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 04:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
dat hsgg, gets caught top a bunch of times, goes 0-4-2. Then decides to get a triple kill for CLG with saint landing a solid ulti. zz

Free Baron

Edit: And I want to mention that hs "getting caught" was not necessary a bad thing for his team in this game. He got the farm he needed and top tower. Gave bottom a free lane to saint who managed to get a bot tower too. Just really lolz what a farmed Jax can do even after "feeding", huk.


It's weird but watching Hotshot play top lane, a lot of his problem is that "getting caught" is basically just his playstyle which gets him killed in solo queue because his team can't do anything with it, but jiji and Chauster know how to capitalize. It's such a solo queue seeming playstyle but games like this really show he's a ... real team player?

...as long as it's not Malz who just gets gibbed immediately. Needs to stop that shit with Malz.

Maybe it's just me, but HSGG seems to have a lot of Nid play influencing him when he plays other champs. Like, I've seen his Swain split push real hard and overextend a lot and buy lots of wards.

That, and he probably has a really deep understanding of what plays to make but in solo queue people can't follow up on them. So it looks like it's bad but it's much more subtle than that.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:25:48
August 06 2011 21:23 GMT
#1337
On August 07 2011 06:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
r33k tends to do that though...

Dan does lead EG. If you've talk to any of the high elo players, a lot of them will tell you that the Dinh brothers have a natural knack at running their respective teams. Only reason why r33k's "sensational" comment has any ground is because of DH. Dan didn't really step up there, probably due to new environment and high stakes, so I don't blame him. But in scrims, you can tell Dan take reins in vent.

EG has done little to nothing after DH so there's nothing to comment on how the team has changed since then. All I'm saying comes not only from what everyone can see on streams but also from personal complaints by dyrus.

Dan doesn't take the reins as much as Regi does, and everyone on the team is making calls all the time, and dan rarely steps in to say "no we do it this way". He also doesn't like telling his teammates what to play and so everyone just kinda slides into the roles the team needs to have filled. Except for Salce and now pgb for obvious reasons.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
August 06 2011 21:39 GMT
#1338
What the fuck, do I share a birthday with the mighty caller?
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#1339
I am loathe to question jiji since he has more LoL skill in his pinky than I have in my body, but perhaps Merc's or Tenacity might have been good this game?
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 22:00 GMT
#1340
All I saw was pobelter solowinning the game and making saint look like a 16 year old korean solo queue player.
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