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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#1601
On August 09 2011 06:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 05:46 Mogwai wrote:
olaf does 80 (+0.5 per bonus AD) with Q and gets +13 (+1% bonus HP) AD from W with a 24% slow off of a 1000 range Q. He also gets, let's say, I dunno, 30-50% increased AS from his passive (any more and it's starting to sound really dangerous to gank).

nocturne gets 60 (+0.75 per bonus AD) with Q, gets +15 AD from Q, gets 50 damage from E, a 1 second fear from E, 120% AD as AoE on his first attack from his passive, and 15% Movespeed from Q off of a 1200 range Q.

not to mention I find nocturne's Q easier to hit (seems like a noticeably faster missile speed and wider projectile). So I don't see how you can seriously say that you see no ways in which nocturne's level 2 gank is better than Olaf's.

I highly doubt the 200 extra range will be relevant vs a freely moving target. And hitting the 1st Olaf Q makes hitting the 2nd one extremely likely unless they blow an escape.

well argued, I now concede the argument to you, well played.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 21:15:26
August 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#1602
On August 09 2011 06:04 Alaric wrote:
Taric/MF bottom (in the opposing team), since you were discussing it. MF just got first blood on Caitlyn and Galio had to use his flash, though Cait got MF at the same time.

I don't think anyone doubts that Taric+MF is a strong lane. The question was whether MF is good against a Taric lane because of her heal reduction, but the strength of a Taric lane really lies in the guaranteed long duration long range stun. MF has no good way of dealing with that so she's not much better vs Taric than anyone else. Of course if MF can go on the offense the healing reduction isn't too bad.

Dan Dinh likes Blueberries more than Strawberries. He can't eat a lot of Strawberries at once.
Very important.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 21:38:46
August 08 2011 21:33 GMT
#1603
So what do you guys feel about Leblanc being viable in ranked play?

I've had pretty solid success with her in almost any matchup mid so far; brand, orianna, annie, ww to name a few. But this is just normals. I'm still hesitant to using her in ranked because of her niche role compared to other standard AP carries. My first game at 1800+ did end in a win vs orianna but I'm still uncertain.

She does not have the sick aoe burst or cc that annie/orianna/brand offers, but at the same time her single target burst/cc and mobility is just so good, shes like a difficult version of akali in terms of her toolset.

I feel like any mid matchup is winnable if you dodge most skillshots and know how and when to harass the enemy, so if I can bully my mid lane early on I can start ganking other lanes and fill up my mejais that way. But that pretty much goes for any AP carry, so yeah ..

Shes definantly not a safe pick vs any setup, but thats what intrigues me about her.



"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 08 2011 21:39 GMT
#1604
She's good at stomping noobs but lategame she's a caster with no aoe and minimal CC. She reminds me of Shaco. Great early game stomper but falls off very fast.
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gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
August 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#1605
lol, looking for League of Legends Stream, finding Chaox, open it - he watches Sc2 on TL
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 08 2011 21:59 GMT
#1606
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 22:24:14
August 08 2011 22:23 GMT
#1607
On August 09 2011 06:59 gtrsrs wrote:
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs


I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.



also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 08 2011 22:33 GMT
#1608
Having a morganna as your support would also block taric stun.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 08 2011 22:40 GMT
#1609
On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 06:59 gtrsrs wrote:
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs


I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.



also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

your teacher is a baller
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 08 2011 22:40 GMT
#1610
On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 06:59 gtrsrs wrote:
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs


I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.



also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol


When you play just to gain ELO, you always lose games. Weird, but that's how it works.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 08 2011 22:42 GMT
#1611
I just wanna chime saying I also think randuins is really bad
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
August 08 2011 22:44 GMT
#1612
On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 06:59 gtrsrs wrote:
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs


I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.



also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

Pyah that's nothing, I spent one day of fever and tilting going from 1600 to 1300. It was marvelous. I think my entire backlog was loses. I should give parental control whenver I'm sick, because that wasn't pretty. Playing with the reaction time of slug is fun! I remember spending over 30 seconds in a game trying to figure out Anivas q, and it was such a mess in my head. I pitty anyone that played with me that day because not only did I probably go 2-8 on average I was an angry motherlover when I did it.
Being 0-5 Ashe with 25 cs after 15 minutes is clearly everyone elses fault.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
August 08 2011 22:47 GMT
#1613
On August 09 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
She's good at stomping noobs but lategame she's a caster with no aoe and minimal CC. She reminds me of Shaco. Great early game stomper but falls off very fast.

Only shaco becomes the beast of ages if the game goes on long enough.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
August 08 2011 23:05 GMT
#1614
What do you guys think about jungle Galio? I can get a cleartime of about 4:20-4:30 with 75% health after a good leash and his ganks are legendary. Flashed under a turret from the jungle and ulted to kill a Leblanc today.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
August 08 2011 23:07 GMT
#1615
jungle galio is totally outshined by junglesticks , if we are talking about caster junglers

the sad truth
And all is illuminated.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
August 08 2011 23:11 GMT
#1616
Galio is a little more tanky and has a stronger initiate. They're very similar though.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 23:27:16
August 08 2011 23:26 GMT
#1617
On August 09 2011 05:46 Mogwai wrote:
olaf does 80 (+0.5 per bonus AD) with Q and gets +13 (+1% bonus HP) AD from W with a 24% slow off of a 1000 range Q. He also gets, let's say, I dunno, 30-50% increased AS from his passive (any more and it's starting to sound really dangerous to gank).

nocturne gets 60 (+0.75 per bonus AD) with Q, gets +15 AD from Q, gets 50 damage from E, a 1 second fear from E, 120% AD as AoE on his first attack from his passive, and 15% Movespeed from Q off of a 1200 range Q.

not to mention I find nocturne's Q easier to hit (seems like a noticeably faster missile speed and wider projectile). So I don't see how you can seriously say that you see no ways in which nocturne's level 2 gank is better than Olaf's.

Imo they both have very powerful ganks and I'm not sure why anyone would try to argue otherwise.


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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 08 2011 23:54 GMT
#1618
On August 09 2011 08:26 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 05:46 Mogwai wrote:
olaf does 80 (+0.5 per bonus AD) with Q and gets +13 (+1% bonus HP) AD from W with a 24% slow off of a 1000 range Q. He also gets, let's say, I dunno, 30-50% increased AS from his passive (any more and it's starting to sound really dangerous to gank).

nocturne gets 60 (+0.75 per bonus AD) with Q, gets +15 AD from Q, gets 50 damage from E, a 1 second fear from E, 120% AD as AoE on his first attack from his passive, and 15% Movespeed from Q off of a 1200 range Q.

not to mention I find nocturne's Q easier to hit (seems like a noticeably faster missile speed and wider projectile). So I don't see how you can seriously say that you see no ways in which nocturne's level 2 gank is better than Olaf's.

Imo they both have very powerful ganks and I'm not sure why anyone would try to argue otherwise.


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