I highly doubt the 200 extra range will be relevant vs a freely moving target. And hitting the 1st Olaf Q makes hitting the 2nd one extremely likely unless they blow an escape.

well argued, I now concede the argument to you, well played.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

August 08 2011 21:09 GMT

#1602

On August 09 2011 06:04 Alaric wrote:
Taric/MF bottom (in the opposing team), since you were discussing it. MF just got first blood on Caitlyn and Galio had to use his flash, though Cait got MF at the same time.

I don't think anyone doubts that Taric+MF is a strong lane. The question was whether MF is good against a Taric lane because of her heal reduction, but the strength of a Taric lane really lies in the guaranteed long duration long range stun. MF has no good way of dealing with that so she's not much better vs Taric than anyone else. Of course if MF can go on the offense the healing reduction isn't too bad.

Dan Dinh likes Blueberries more than Strawberries. He can't eat a lot of Strawberries at once.
Very important.

Senx

Sweden5901 Posts

August 08 2011 21:33 GMT

#1603

So what do you guys feel about Leblanc being viable in ranked play?

I've had pretty solid success with her in almost any matchup mid so far; brand, orianna, annie, ww to name a few. But this is just normals. I'm still hesitant to using her in ranked because of her niche role compared to other standard AP carries. My first game at 1800+ did end in a win vs orianna but I'm still uncertain.

She does not have the sick aoe burst or cc that annie/orianna/brand offers, but at the same time her single target burst/cc and mobility is just so good, shes like a difficult version of akali in terms of her toolset.

I feel like any mid matchup is winnable if you dodge most skillshots and know how and when to harass the enemy, so if I can bully my mid lane early on I can start ganking other lanes and fill up my mejais that way. But that pretty much goes for any AP carry, so yeah ..

Shes definantly not a safe pick vs any setup, but thats what intrigues me about her.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

August 08 2011 21:39 GMT

#1604

She's good at stomping noobs but lategame she's a caster with no aoe and minimal CC. She reminds me of Shaco. Great early game stomper but falls off very fast.

gnutz

Germany666 Posts

August 08 2011 21:48 GMT

#1605

lol, looking for League of Legends Stream, finding Chaox, open it - he watches Sc2 on TL

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

August 08 2011 21:59 GMT

#1606

i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs

Phrost

United States4008 Posts

August 08 2011 22:23 GMT

#1607

On August 09 2011 06:59 gtrsrs wrote:
i got off work yesterday, came home. 1640 elo. said "tomorrow is my day off, i will grind ranked games til gold"

i have since gone something like 2-12, 1550 elo~ish

gonna start streaming my fall from glory as i descend further into suicidal mode

www.livestream.com/gtrsrs

I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.

also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

0123456789

United States3216 Posts

August 08 2011 22:33 GMT

#1608

Having a morganna as your support would also block taric stun.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

August 08 2011 22:40 GMT

#1609

On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:

Show nested quote +

I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.

also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

your teacher is a baller

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

August 08 2011 22:40 GMT

#1610

On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:

Show nested quote +

I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.

also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

When you play just to gain ELO, you always lose games. Weird, but that's how it works.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

August 08 2011 22:42 GMT

#1611

I just wanna chime saying I also think randuins is really bad

Hynda

Sweden2226 Posts

August 08 2011 22:44 GMT

#1612

On August 09 2011 07:23 Phrost wrote:

Show nested quote +

I've gone like 7-1 in my last few ranked games. I'm up to like 1640 from 1530ish.

also my teacher just walked by and glanced at my computer and said "team liquid is a good website" lol

Pyah that's nothing, I spent one day of fever and tilting going from 1600 to 1300. It was marvelous. I think my entire backlog was loses. I should give parental control whenver I'm sick, because that wasn't pretty. Playing with the reaction time of slug is fun! I remember spending over 30 seconds in a game trying to figure out Anivas q, and it was such a mess in my head. I pitty anyone that played with me that day because not only did I probably go 2-8 on average I was an angry motherlover when I did it.
Being 0-5 Ashe with 25 cs after 15 minutes is clearly everyone elses fault.

Hynda

Sweden2226 Posts

August 08 2011 22:47 GMT

#1613

On August 09 2011 06:39 HazMat wrote:
She's good at stomping noobs but lategame she's a caster with no aoe and minimal CC. She reminds me of Shaco. Great early game stomper but falls off very fast.

Only shaco becomes the beast of ages if the game goes on long enough.

GiygaS

Canada1043 Posts

August 08 2011 23:05 GMT

#1614

What do you guys think about jungle Galio? I can get a cleartime of about 4:20-4:30 with 75% health after a good leash and his ganks are legendary. Flashed under a turret from the jungle and ulted to kill a Leblanc today.

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

August 08 2011 23:07 GMT

#1615

jungle galio is totally outshined by junglesticks , if we are talking about caster junglers

the sad truth

GiygaS

Canada1043 Posts

August 08 2011 23:11 GMT

#1616

Galio is a little more tanky and has a stronger initiate. They're very similar though.

StuffedTurkey

United States859 Posts

August 08 2011 23:26 GMT

#1617

On August 09 2011 05:46 Mogwai wrote:
olaf does 80 (+0.5 per bonus AD) with Q and gets +13 (+1% bonus HP) AD from W with a 24% slow off of a 1000 range Q. He also gets, let's say, I dunno, 30-50% increased AS from his passive (any more and it's starting to sound really dangerous to gank).

nocturne gets 60 (+0.75 per bonus AD) with Q, gets +15 AD from Q, gets 50 damage from E, a 1 second fear from E, 120% AD as AoE on his first attack from his passive, and 15% Movespeed from Q off of a 1200 range Q.

not to mention I find nocturne's Q easier to hit (seems like a noticeably faster missile speed and wider projectile). So I don't see how you can seriously say that you see no ways in which nocturne's level 2 gank is better than Olaf's.

Imo they both have very powerful ganks and I'm not sure why anyone would try to argue otherwise.

/ 2cents