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Ionia VS. Noxus Rematch, Livestreamed!

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DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
November 27 2010 23:02 GMT
#1
Apparently, Riot is going to stage a Ionia VS. Noxus rematch that is happening within the lore with real players on December 10th. It will be streamed and commentated by Phreak, and the outcome will determine the direction of the lore, as well as choose what new item will come out next.

I am actually very intrigued and excited. I think this is such a great way to get people more involved and interested in the lore of LoL, which is obviously good for the game. It would make this fictional conflict look real, and LoL would transcend the individual matches to a long piece of fictional storyline that the players help shape.

My only concern is that I find LoL not very fun to watch....lol maybe I have been spoiled by SC.

Source: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/ionianoxus2010
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
November 27 2010 23:04 GMT
#2
From the roster, it looks like noxus will win O_O
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 27 2010 23:08 GMT
#3
On November 28 2010 08:04 Abenson wrote:
From the roster, it looks like noxus will win O_O

It's drafted with a single ban, so its not like the entire lineups are relevant. There are enough good champs on the Ionian team for them to take this.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 27 2010 23:08 GMT
#4
Assassins vs Tanks? Can't be a close match.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 27 2010 23:24 GMT
#5
"The eligible champions have been determined, and now all focus has shifted to who will guide them through this momentous battle. The League is currently soliciting entries from select summoners to represent both Ionia and Noxus."

Makes it sound like there were applications or something, kind of sad I missed out, sounds like it would be fun.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 27 2010 23:25 GMT
#6
Noxians. I hate those guys.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 23:54:10
November 27 2010 23:50 GMT
#7
On November 28 2010 08:08 spinesheath wrote:
Assassins vs Tanks? Can't be a close match.


Ionia will get 4 of Udyr, Amumu, Ashe, Kennen and Shen. Sona really should be in place of one of the other champs, but I guess they knew it'd make teams too imbalanced. 3x Global ult Ionia seems like the stronger team.
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Zelc
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
129 Posts
November 27 2010 23:51 GMT
#8
The problem with Noxus is they only have one high tier tank: Rammus. Coincidentally, their only other great jungler is Shaco who's easy to counter-jungle and has a limited impact late game. Banning Rammus almost forces Noxus to take Shaco and Singed (probably a better tank than Sion). If Rammus is banned, Noxus would probably field a team of Shaco, Singed, Morgana, one of the ranged carries, and probably Vlad or Sion.

Alternatively, a Morgana ban gives Noxus a lot more flexibility in their team comp, but Ionia has some good anti-carries so they can kill Kog'Maw or MF easier.

The problem with Ionia is they have too many solo laners. They also only have one great AP champion and one great ranged AD champion. A ban on Amumu is always strong but it would make for easy champion picks: Udyr Kennen Ashe Shen Akali is a good team comp.

Otherwise things get tricky, because they'd want Amumu which means they can't take Udyr. If Noxus bans Kennen, Akali will be the only source of magic damage. They'd probably have to do something like Amumu Shen Ashe Akali Irelia/Soraka/Yi. This is probably Noxus's strongest ban.

If Noxus bans Ashe, then Ionia will need to turn to Ezreal for physical damage. This is probably a bad idea for Noxus though, because the Amumu Kennen combo will probably melt face and Ezreal can do decent damage to squishies. Something else Ionia could try is Soraka babysitting Master Yi and try to farm him up.

Of course, chances are the winning side will be whoever CLG plays, so this team comp theorycrafting is probably useless.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 00:10:21
November 27 2010 23:57 GMT
#9
Couldn't Ionia try something like AP Ez if Akali won't be good against Noxus? It's not like he's the worst champ in the game, and Akali would have a really rough time getting a snipe against a Singed+Morg+Flash babysit.

edit: Team Noxus also missing Swain. WTF? Urgot I understand (terrible), Warwick I kind of understand (JoJ story), but where the hell is Jericho Swain?
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
November 28 2010 00:26 GMT
#10
Yeah, this seems like it should be pretty fun... here's hoping the teams are made up of players with similar skill and experience playing together.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 00:36:14
November 28 2010 00:34 GMT
#11
On November 28 2010 08:57 Niton wrote:
Couldn't Ionia try something like AP Ez if Akali won't be good against Noxus? It's not like he's the worst champ in the game, and Akali would have a really rough time getting a snipe against a Singed+Morg+Flash babysit.

edit: Team Noxus also missing Swain. WTF? Urgot I understand (terrible), Warwick I kind of understand (JoJ story), but where the hell is Jericho Swain?

Swain's kind of lackluster too tho. I doubt Swain would even be considered even if he was on the roster.

Personally, I think Ionia has a better chance simply because a Rammus ban will screw over Noxus pretty hard as the only tank they have left are more of offtanks. I mean, sure they have two of the best carries but against a balanced team...eh iunno.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 28 2010 00:46 GMT
#12
noxus can't lose. morgana. are you kidding me? freewin
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 28 2010 00:46 GMT
#13
The problem is that a ban on rammus will be just as effective as a ban on Ashe because Ionia only really has 1 good ranged dps (Ashe) and noxus has a ton of options for CC to make ezreal or yi a pile of goo.

I'd be afraid of Noxus decided to run MF, Leblanc, Shaco, Sion, and Morgana. thats 2 roots, a long silence, an aoe fear, a very easy to land stun, and a lot of damage.

Personally I think the best thing Noxus could do is ban udyr and force an amumu or yi to jungle and have shaco just counter jungle hard.

On the flip side if Noxus doesn't ban Irelia and Rammus is banned there is really no good way for Noxus to deal with a late game Irelia because she can shake off all the cc in team fights pretty easily.
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DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
November 28 2010 02:15 GMT
#14
Ionia's problem is their dps. They just don't have the raw damage output of Noxus. It will come down to how well they cc and position themselves, because Ionia does seem to have better utility classes.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 28 2010 03:16 GMT
#15
What bullshit.

Show nested quote +
In addition to deciding the outcome of the conflict between Ionia and Noxus, the winning team will have the opportunity to select one of two items that will be added to the game in an upcoming patch.


What...? How is this a good way to make game balance decisions?

I'm especially confused because riot seems to consider this a tournament game.

If both these are well designed items that fulfill a role in the game, why is one of them not making it into the game?

If one of them is not so good, why are they running the risk of the winners picking the worse item for the game?
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 28 2010 03:25 GMT
#16
Presumably, it's two items which fill the same role. Adding both would be redundant, so adding stakes to the match to choose which of the two concepts gets used seems fine.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 05:11:39
November 28 2010 05:08 GMT
#17
If the game were played by two equally-matched top-end teams, I'd bet on Ionia 10/10 :x Ban Rammus and you force a jungle Shaco but top-end teams will play around a Shaco and make him look silly. Nox has a tough choice banning Ashe or Udyr, and I'd really say they'd have to ban Udyr; they have no reliable means of taking him out of the game, and if you leave an Udyr rampant your map control with Shaco goes down under. If they ban Ashe I'd just run Udyr jungle with Sora bottom and pressure with level 3 dragon, you might even be able to run Shen top Amumu bottom and have Ezreal mid and end up with a brutal 2.5 tank + support + Ezreal team with a free map tele from top to drag. Sora+anything is still retarded like that, Amumu gets farmed, you end up with three really good tanks getting decently farmed, so on and so forth.

Meanwhile if you ban Udyr then you open up an Ashe/Kennen nightmare, or if they're confident they could even run something retarded like Shen/Kenn/Sora+Ashe/Amumu, etc. Extremely flexible and consistently nasty.

For Nox' part they're caught in a tight spot between wanting to babysit their two strong carries (MF/Kog) yet only having one true tank (Singed), one support spell (Morg's BS), and one reliable stun (Sion). Their best chance is probably to run something homosexual like double carry, but then you'd need a tank jungler, which Shaco is unfortunately not. A big alternative for them is to run jungle Sion, but only a handful of people know how to do it reliably, and he's not really a tank anyways. So then you're looking at something like Morg/Kog/Singed+MF(for DU+MIR->Toss)/Shaco... but then I feel like unless the Shaco is godly he'll be QQing about no disables on his lanes (with the exception of bottom). And assuming Ionia's not stupid and they bring Soraka that's gonna be a terribly annoying lane anyways.

Edit:
The tragedy for Nox is they only have one top-tier jungler while Ionia has at least two (+Yi if played well, Akali if they want to snipe carries, or maybe Irelia, but I haven't played since she was patched in so just speculating there). And that top-tier jungler is their only top-tier tank (Rammus) and is an obvious ban. Couple this with Ionia having the only support hero in the matchup and you end up with a pretty lopsided lineup.

Nox may even have to think hard about banning Soraka; one team having a support hero while the other does not often leads to some very, very bad times.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2010 06:43 GMT
#18
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?
Or maybe it's because I'm a little drunk.
Who is actually playing in this match? Woudln' that matter more than actual champ selection unless the skill is equal?
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 28 2010 06:48 GMT
#19
Ya can I get in on this, I need some rp.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 28 2010 07:05 GMT
#20
The whole selecting players confuses me a bit. Is it just going to be CLG vs Epik/HMOF? Or will it be 10 1200 ranked summoners?

Guess we have to wait to see.
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