• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:29
CET 01:29
KST 09:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 947 users

Ionia VS. Noxus Rematch, Livestreamed! - Page 8

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 11 2010 08:46 GMT
#141
Yeah, kinda disappointed, would definitely prefer that spellvamp doran for more diverse jungling.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Smgzy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States187 Posts
December 11 2010 08:47 GMT
#142
From what I heard, there were 25,000 concurrent viewers. I think the streams just have trouble displaying the correct number sometimes after a certain point.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
December 11 2010 09:03 GMT
#143
Feeder Neo GG
Guardsman Bob
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 13:47:53
December 11 2010 13:43 GMT
#144
On December 11 2010 17:37 JL13 wrote:Did you expect the ban on Shen? What sorts of comps was your team prepping? Noxus apparently had prepared their comp because they were expecting the ban on Rammus.

No, personally I expected them to ban ashe and force us into some not great team comp (ezreal is not even good when played by someone who is good at him, and we didnt even have someoen who is good at him). Our comp would lilely have been frozt jungle yi and me mid udyr!
In case of udyr ban I would jungle mummy and shen would be bot.

Were you nervous during the match at all? There were well over 4k viewers on the Riot Stream. When it did feel like Ionia had the game locked up?

I have won 10 monthly tournaments in guildwars, so I have gotten past the whole being nervous before/in a match, my biggest problem is lack of sleep due to excesive theory crafting the day before.

In terms of coordination, did you have 1 designated leader who would call stuff out? Or was it like a committee sort of communication? Noxus' side was just Roku talking apparently which definitely doesn't help if you're trying to call everything out.

Without attempting to take credit for anyone else's performance, I did take the lead in making sure everyones rune/mastery/item build made sense, as well as me and frozt calling out when and where to ward, other than that I just kept track of dragon respawntime, (type it in team chat when it dies for easy reference), and made sure everyone shopped / was ready to go for it in time before it spawned.

If you pay close attention before the first dragon fight, you iwll notice kennen comming down from top lane as we are about to do it, that is me setting our team up to do dragon before the other team is ready to respond, had the enemy team done the same before us the match could easily have swung thier way (notice that we all got super low in that fight and fights before that)

After we got the 5 - 0 lead plus a dragon in our favor the game was essentially (save for a DC or really poor play over'), we could simply sit back and wait for a few more dragons to further the lead before pushing for the win).

Other than that, not much else for me to say. I unfortunately stopped watching after the Vlad D/c although I probably should have stopped after the second dragon fight, Lol @ singed 1v4. G_G btw, solid beatdown.

1v4 is possible, you just need the power of locket! (you missed out and such a good ending!
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 11 2010 16:32 GMT
#145
Yeah thanks for posting here GuardsmanBob, need you to write an udyr guide for us! Outleveling solos was so so sick.

Also, fast forward to the end for hilarity.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 11 2010 16:35 GMT
#146
SUPER sad about the item pick. CDR boots?!?! R U 4 RELA. That is SO boring. WTF. Why would you do that?!

Can you imagine all the intense trolling that could've gone down with spell vamp @ lvl 1. Ionia, I am disappoint. I bet if those cool Noxians would've won they'd have picked spell vamp.
Retvrn to Forvms
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 17:14:11
December 11 2010 17:13 GMT
#147
On December 12 2010 01:35 Chrispy wrote:
SUPER sad about the item pick. CDR boots?!?! R U 4 RELA. That is SO boring. WTF. Why would you do that?!

Can you imagine all the intense trolling that could've gone down with spell vamp @ lvl 1. Ionia, I am disappoint. I bet if those cool Noxians would've won they'd have picked spell vamp.


I think the CDR boots are viable as a replacement for merc treads in caster builds that run void staff. But yes, the Doran item certainly seemed like it would change the game more.

And welcome to Guardsman Bob -- next time I write your name in an IH thread I won't have to list you as "No TL Account (Guardsman Bob)"!
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 11 2010 19:12 GMT
#148
Riot considers making nonstacking CC reduction on certain items. That would mean that Mercs wouldn´t be the ONLY source of CC reduction. There are even experiments with CC reduction Quints!
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
December 11 2010 19:51 GMT
#149
A cheap source of spell vamp would have been really nice but also really early CDR helps some champions as well I guess it depends on how cheap they are if they're rather cheap then it kind of makes sense as you can get a codex and CDR boots for a ton of CDR in the early game. This would help out champs like kayle hitting cap for E.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
December 11 2010 20:23 GMT
#150
As much as I would have liked to see what would have happened with Doran's Amulet, CDR boots might help shape a Magma chamber without the Golem clutch.
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
December 12 2010 01:55 GMT
#151
Cool, nice to have my questions answered. Congrats on your win.
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 12 2010 03:00 GMT
#152
The itemization for the CDR stat isn't very good (the only "mainstream" item you can find it on is Randuin's, and that item is for tanks only), so the CDR boots will be a welcome addition. On the other hand, the itemization for Spell Vamp is atrocious; the Revolver is a lackluster item that builds either into a pretty awful caster item (Will of the Ancients) or into a very character-specific (and even then unimpressive) Hybrid item in the Gunblade. Because of this, the Doran's item with spell vamp on it would've likely revolutionized the spell vamp stat, and might've made it competitive with other, (currently) better stats.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Guardsman Bob
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 03:20:27
December 12 2010 03:16 GMT
#153
Here are the stats for the dorans item: 100hp, 100mp, 8% spell vamp

But, many champs who coould use spell vamp dont use mana, this alreayd cuts down who it would make a good starting item for.
Additionally dorans ring gives AP and regens more mana in a little over 2 minutes, making it better in almost all situations.
And thirdly, I personally dislike dorans items and think they should be nerfed to 50hp, people having less health early makes for more intersting laning.

The boots should cost about the same as beserker graves and tabi, and be 15% CDR, as far as I was told. (this may change).

And yes as the last poster pointed out, quite a few champions have a hard time itemizing CDR (which is a very powerful stat), merc threads are, imo, mostly for champions who need to auto attack.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
December 12 2010 05:15 GMT
#154
That cheap for 15% CDR on lv2 Boots? That is really interesting :o
Writer
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 09:09:15
December 12 2010 09:08 GMT
#155
The fiction - reality interaction where LoL's story is based on is actually pretty novel, or in practice at least, it's interesting to see how the fantasy world is forged simply by the events that happen in reality. This adds a new dimension to the story telling and everything just suddenly became extremely unpredictable. I was hoping that blizzard would have such type of showmatches where there are representatives from each faction to fight each other to decide the fate of the starcraft universe(idra and ret play as kerrigan and fights against jinro and qxc representing the dominion and hopefully ret defects to domion to create addtional drama in both the matches and the story). but then again, such "progressive" move might turn off a large portion of the audience out there D:
what quote?
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 12 2010 11:00 GMT
#156
CDR is such a powerful and (relativly) low capped stat because it takes advantage of skill utility and base values (which are always FAR above what you realistically can get via scaling AP).
It´s really nasty on champions with recursive CDR aka Zilean and Xin. Zil might stick to MRPen boots but I´d say Xin will take the Ionian Stompers.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
December 12 2010 12:27 GMT
#157
What about Vlad, CDR boots+Visage = qqqqqq
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 12 2010 14:40 GMT
#158
they seem pretty sexy on trundle and brolaf too, who already have cc mitigating mechanics and are also quite hungry for that 40% cdr
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 12 2010 17:46 GMT
#159
On December 11 2010 12:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Doran's item was +100 HP, +100 MP, 15% Spell Vamp

15% CDR Boots, built like Sorc's.

On December 12 2010 12:16 Guardsman Bob wrote:
Here are the stats for the dorans item: 100hp, 100mp, 8% spell vamp

Oh. If there's just 8% spell vamp on the Doran's item, then that isn't so impressive. I'd also have gone with the boots, in that case
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
December 12 2010 20:38 GMT
#160
I'm an EU player so I can't check your profile Guardsman Bob. But I main Udyr, so I am interested in what runes and masteries did you use. And what was your starting item and route that game. If you could spare some time to shortly describe that. thx
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
PiGStarcraft661
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft661
elazer 170
ProTech150
SpeCial 124
JuggernautJason73
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 62
Rock 7
Dota 2
syndereN868
XaKoH 506
League of Legends
C9.Mang0256
Counter-Strike
summit1g7520
tarik_tv5798
minikerr36
Other Games
ViBE106
Mew2King57
PPMD52
Chillindude19
Liquid`Ken2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• RyuSc2 55
• davetesta39
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki84
• RayReign 50
• HerbMon 14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21871
League of Legends
• Doublelift4173
Other Games
• imaqtpie3246
• Shiphtur289
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
2h 32m
OSC
11h 32m
IPSL
16h 32m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
17h 32m
OSC
1d 11h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.