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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 15 2011 12:40 GMT
#1101
On March 15 2011 20:44 Goshawk. wrote:
Crazy strong burst, huge snowball potential, 6/5/4 blink as ulti gives him insane moveability and makes him very hard to kill. Pretty much perma ban on EU.

Really surprised no one uses him on US, kass and sion are for me the best ap carries to rofl over the other team in solo q. (EDIT: Maybe malz too)

Kass draws a lot of his strength on EU from the carry/support bottom lane setup. The level advantage makes it ridiculously easy for Kass to pick carries apart.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
March 15 2011 12:52 GMT
#1102
On March 15 2011 20:14 Goshawk. wrote:
A lot of stuff that needed nerfing for ages got nerfed this patch which is nice, though I don't agree with some of the changes.

Nerfing sion's hp is just a pain, he is weak in lane early anyway and it doesn't nothing to fix his crazy ap ratios on his nukes anyway. -_- Dunno why malph nerf, haven't played him in ages anyway, meh. Cho kinda hit hard, but shen left untouched. Renek crazy strong as ever, they supposedly nerf tanky dps and don't touch him lawl.

Show nested quote +

Experience
* When more than 1 champion is sharing experience, 10% extra experience is split among all targets
* Two champions each gain 55%, up from 50%
* Three champions each gain 36.7%, up from 33.3%
* Four champions each gain 27.5%, up from 25%
* Five champions each gain 22%, up from 20%


Another dual lane buff...

Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 15:03 BluzMan wrote:
T_T at a completely random, uncalled for Kassadin nerf.


Lawl. Kass needed a nerf for sooo long and finally gets one.


Kass permabanned in low elo EU atleast. Whenever im first pick I don't ban him and hope they don't either and pick him it's like a sure win.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 15 2011 12:54 GMT
#1103
I am sad about the Cho nerfs, but at least they buffed Maokai so I still have at least one cool cc tank to play.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 13:35:43
March 15 2011 13:09 GMT
#1104
On March 15 2011 21:29 DrKlingmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:14 Goshawk. wrote:

Experience
* When more than 1 champion is sharing experience, 10% extra experience is split among all targets
* Two champions each gain 55%, up from 50%
* Three champions each gain 36.7%, up from 33.3%
* Four champions each gain 27.5%, up from 25%
* Five champions each gain 22%, up from 20%


Another dual lane buff...


Any idea how was it before?
I know there was dual lane buff before.. but i don't know specifics.
Any1 knows what is the difference between 6 month ago and now aside from the fact that 'there was a buff'?

They reduced the amount of XP that minions give when only one person is gaining experience.

I'm assuming that this implicitly reverts that (because it makes no sense for 1 person to get a penalty AND for 2 people to get a bonus--use one or the other as the baseline value).

On March 15 2011 20:44 Goshawk. wrote:
Crazy strong burst, huge snowball potential, 6/5/4 blink as ulti gives him insane moveability and makes him very hard to kill. Pretty much perma ban on EU.

Really surprised no one uses him on US, kass and sion are for me the best ap carries to rofl over the other team in solo q. (EDIT: Maybe malz too)

Kass is used plenty on US, it's just I don't think he really outclasses Annie/Anivia (which appear to be Riot's balancing point for AP carries.
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rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
March 15 2011 13:12 GMT
#1105
Stronger AD carries make Kass less viable on US as they can abuse Kass in the lane where they are actually quite weak until 6+. Then in team fights Kass is facing infinity edges and what not from about the 20min mark onwards so it's not that simple to avoid CC and huge auto attacks on what you would still call a squishy champ. Supression can also be very strong against Kass.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
March 15 2011 13:24 GMT
#1106
On March 15 2011 22:12 rob.au wrote:
Stronger AD carries make Kass less viable on US as they can abuse Kass in the lane where they are actually quite weak until 6+. Then in team fights Kass is facing infinity edges and what not from about the 20min mark onwards so it's not that simple to avoid CC and huge auto attacks on what you would still call a squishy champ. Supression can also be very strong against Kass.

Cait's ult is strong vs. Kass as well. Still, well-deserved nerfs in his case. Kinda surprised to see Amumu, Shen and Jarvan squeaking by without nerfs, I thought at least one of them would've taken a hit.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 15 2011 14:47 GMT
#1107
Did Anivia just get overall buffed since they last attempted to nerf her? What the...
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
March 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#1108
Yes lvl 1 dominators like teemo now are just that much stronger.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#1109
She is still worse than before the first recent nerfs.

+ Show Spoiler [Anivia Changes 1.0.0.111] +

Anivia

* Fixed a bug where Flashfrost stunned for 0.75 seconds instead of 1 second as the tooltip stated
* Fixed a bug where unlike other skillshots, Flashfrost could not be cast from out of range
* Glacial Storm
o Initial mana cost increased to 100/150/200 from 25/35/45
o Cost per second reduced to 40/50/60 from 50/70/90
o Slow duration reduced to 1 second from 2.5
* Rebirth
o Armor/magic resist modifier changed to -40/-25/-10/5/20 from -40/-20/10/40
o Rebirth now always shows the passive in the passive slot, and an additional buff in the buff bar with the current status (ready, active, or on cooldown)
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 15 2011 15:12 GMT
#1110
Anyone know what the unintended effect of the Dorans blade was? o_o.

Anyways this patch seems really good. All the champions that deserved a nerf got it imo. To hell with Kass, Sion and Cho'gath.

Except my boy Singed was just gettin' hated on for no reason. But we still coo, we still coo.
Retvrn to Forvms
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 15:14:17
March 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#1111
Oh yeaaaa, now I remember how REALLY op she used to be~


And hurray, they fixed Sivir. I was worried there.
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
March 15 2011 15:23 GMT
#1112
On March 16 2011 00:12 Chrispy wrote:
Anyone know what the unintended effect of the Dorans blade was? o_o.

Anyways this patch seems really good. All the champions that deserved a nerf got it imo. To hell with Kass, Sion and Cho'gath.

Except my boy Singed was just gettin' hated on for no reason. But we still coo, we still coo.


I just found this out a few days ago by accident.
I was doing some research on gold/10 quints (don't ask) and apparently doran's blade was providing an extra passive 1g/10
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 15 2011 15:27 GMT
#1113
LOL you have got to be kidding me.

I remember trolling some guy on LP saying that was their passive like two weeks ago.
Retvrn to Forvms
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 15 2011 15:53 GMT
#1114
On March 15 2011 22:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 21:29 DrKlingmann wrote:
On March 15 2011 20:14 Goshawk. wrote:

Experience
* When more than 1 champion is sharing experience, 10% extra experience is split among all targets
* Two champions each gain 55%, up from 50%
* Three champions each gain 36.7%, up from 33.3%
* Four champions each gain 27.5%, up from 25%
* Five champions each gain 22%, up from 20%


Another dual lane buff...


Any idea how was it before?
I know there was dual lane buff before.. but i don't know specifics.
Any1 knows what is the difference between 6 month ago and now aside from the fact that 'there was a buff'?

They reduced the amount of XP that minions give when only one person is gaining experience.

I'm assuming that this implicitly reverts that (because it makes no sense for 1 person to get a penalty AND for 2 people to get a bonus--use one or the other as the baseline value).


It´s a relative strenghtening of duolaners. Right now duolane benefits "low resource" champions too much and 2v1 is too far in favour of the 1 guy.

On March 15 2011 22:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 20:44 Goshawk. wrote:
Crazy strong burst, huge snowball potential, 6/5/4 blink as ulti gives him insane moveability and makes him very hard to kill. Pretty much perma ban on EU.

Really surprised no one uses him on US, kass and sion are for me the best ap carries to rofl over the other team in solo q. (EDIT: Maybe malz too)

Kass is used plenty on US, it's just I don't think he really outclasses Annie/Anivia (which appear to be Riot's balancing point for AP carries.


They are not comparable actually. Kass is an Assassin with insane AP ratios to the point of being a carry. He has far more mobility but less range than actualy AP carries like Annie/Anivia. It´s no suprise that he appears to be underwealming if you expect him to work similarly to them.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 15 2011 15:55 GMT
#1115
Ugh, why did they beat Chogath so savagely? He didn't deserve a nerf like that. Very sad now.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 15 2011 15:57 GMT
#1116
On March 16 2011 00:23 Logrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 00:12 Chrispy wrote:
Anyone know what the unintended effect of the Dorans blade was? o_o.

Anyways this patch seems really good. All the champions that deserved a nerf got it imo. To hell with Kass, Sion and Cho'gath.

Except my boy Singed was just gettin' hated on for no reason. But we still coo, we still coo.


I just found this out a few days ago by accident.
I was doing some research on gold/10 quints (don't ask) and apparently doran's blade was providing an extra passive 1g/10


It used to have g/10 before they changed it to lifesteal lol.


Also all these melee champion nerfs are pretty dissapointing. The extremely early game nerfs are going to make it hell for any melee solo champion.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 16:20:57
March 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1117
#1 biggest change is the banshees change

Items

* Banshee's Veil refresh time increased to 45 seconds from 30 seconds.

Irelia still good

ROFL at morde
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 15 2011 16:38 GMT
#1118
On March 16 2011 00:55 Sentenal wrote:
Ugh, why did they beat Chogath so savagely? He didn't deserve a nerf like that. Very sad now.


He did actually. He is immovable in lane and had the highest burst out of any champ at 0 AP (or AD).
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 15 2011 16:52 GMT
#1119
On March 16 2011 01:38 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 00:55 Sentenal wrote:
Ugh, why did they beat Chogath so savagely? He didn't deserve a nerf like that. Very sad now.


He did actually. He is immovable in lane and had the highest burst out of any champ at 0 AP (or AD).

Being good in lane and having a really good nuke doesn't justify the nerf he got. He still wasn't even the best tank, or the best AP nuke, even with his laning ability and Feast.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 15 2011 16:54 GMT
#1120
The buff to vorpal spikes makes me want to do malady based attack speed build on him though, lol.

Too bad he's melee.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
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