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.EDIT: though he still BDs like a bawss with Triforce + Ghostblade + his ult, LOL.
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
.EDIT: though he still BDs like a bawss with Triforce + Ghostblade + his ult, LOL. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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BajaBlood
United States205 Posts
Eve and Panth are annoying, but I'm not sure nerfs are justified. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On January 15 2011 22:12 Goshawk. wrote: Eve gonna be nerfed all the way into the shit tier. Glad about rammus nerf, but I'm surprised to nerf to deathcap. Eve: you don't know that Rammus: justified, his map presence is just too good to allow him to be so strong at ganking. He can be everywhere on the map really easily, added to the fact that he's such a clutch piece of a party (fights will always revolve around rammus) it just becomes too hard to deal with. Deathcap is too efficient. it's by far the most efficient AP item in the game and late game items aren't supposed to do that unless they come late in your build. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On January 15 2011 23:37 Orpheos wrote: the rammus "ok" thing is by far my favorite LoL inside joke. I didn't get it. I just assumed the taunt was so ridiculous combined with his other skills that it was obvious. I still love rammus though, U GOT ROLLED SON. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On January 16 2011 00:05 Slayer91 wrote: I didn't get it. I just assumed the taunt was so ridiculous combined with his other skills that it was obvious. I still love rammus though, U GOT ROLLED SON. have you ever played rammus? when you are just ordering him around he says "okay" in this really silly/badass way. and i think theres a giant thread on LoL where they were talking about rammus and it devolved into everyone just typing "ok" and anyone who typed anythign else got downvoted 50times. its just rammus' thing | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
1) Insta-turret field, allowing him to deal almost two champions-worth of damage in any teamfight. 2) Upgraded turret AI, making him much harder to lane against or gank. 3) An upgraded ult which gives him more missiles, increasing his teamfight power, and an upgraded grenade, making it harder to dodge, making it harder to gank/chase him. Uh...guys? Do you remember The Age of the Heimerdinger Permaban? Did you *like* it for some reason?? | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 16 2011 00:35 oberon wrote: So Heimer gets: 1) Insta-turret field, allowing him to deal almost two champions-worth of damage in any teamfight. 2) Upgraded turret AI, making him much harder to lane against or gank. 3) An upgraded ult which gives him more missiles, increasing his teamfight power, and an upgraded grenade, making it harder to dodge, making it harder to gank/chase him. Uh...guys? Do you remember The Age of the Heimerdinger Permaban? Did you *like* it for some reason?? *smack* your head, use it. turret strength will get nerfed. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 16 2011 00:35 oberon wrote: So Heimer gets: 1) Insta-turret field, allowing him to deal almost two champions-worth of damage in any teamfight. 2) Upgraded turret AI, making him much harder to lane against or gank. 3) An upgraded ult which gives him more missiles, increasing his teamfight power, and an upgraded grenade, making it harder to dodge, making it harder to gank/chase him. Uh...guys? Do you remember The Age of the Heimerdinger Permaban? Did you *like* it for some reason?? To be fair, I'm not sure how you can really complain about 2, especially since the turret bug where they just don't shoot has to be one of the most rage-inducing things ever--especially when 2 bugged turrets in a row just screws over your mana management. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
It's called a Pseudo Random Distribution if you want to google how it works cause I'd just be copy pasting something about it ^_^ In theory it balances the game because it makes lucky or unlucky sprees less likely, but in game play it depreciates the value of crit. As you get closer to 100%, with a Pseudo Random Distribution your actual crit chance is much less than what it should be due to the mechanics of a Pseudo Random Distribution. This drop off starts around 25% to my knowledge where you lose .1% critical chance it increases as you get closer to 100%. For example, at 50% crit chance, in a Pseudo Random Distribution you'd only have a 45.7% chance if you averaged the results of a Pseudo Random Distribution ^_^ Only characters that really enjoy stacking crit should really be effected by this though...Hi Tryndemere. | ||
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SeaMoosi
United States62 Posts
Eve nerf makes me sad...No more pubstomping with AP Sunfire Eve... | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
I have a 100 sided cube that has 50 black squares and 50 red squares. I toss it in the air and randomly get black. Since I got black I paint 10 of the squares red and flip it again. I get black again so I paint another 10 squares red. I flip it again and get red so I paint 10 of the squares black. Basically this prevents any streaks from happening because if a streak begins it'll become impossible for it to continue and before that it'll be almost impossible anyways. The numbers are set up in such a way that it averages out to 50% in the end. The ones I made up on the spot obviously don't work properly ^_^ The interesting part is that if you have 55% you'll never have a situation where you won't have a crit in three attacks. The trade-off of this is that since it basically forces you to crit every other attack, your average crit chance drops to 49.7% even though you should have 55%. It skews farther and farther the higher your crit chance goes because if you have an 80% chance to crit and you get a spree going it'll force you to get a non-crit to average out, even though a spree of 6-8 crits with that chance wouldn't be uncommon mathmatically. It's used in wc3 and makes sense because almost all abilities have a lowish proc chance. You don't see these horrible returns until 25% where it's one tenth of one percent (which is effectively almost meaningless), and most abilities like bash or crit for example proc at a 15% chance. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 16 2011 05:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The interesting part is that if you have 55% you'll never have a situation where you won't have a crit in three attacks. The trade-off of this is that since it basically forces you to crit every other attack, your average crit chance drops to 49.7% even though you should have 55%. It skews farther and farther the higher your crit chance goes because if you have an 80% chance to crit and you get a spree going it'll force you to get a non-crit to average out, even though a spree of 6-8 crits with that chance wouldn't be uncommon mathmatically. It's used in wc3 and makes sense because almost all abilities have a lowish proc chance. You don't see these horrible returns until 25% where it's one tenth of one percent (which is effectively almost meaningless), and most abilities like bash or crit for example proc at a 15% chance. That doesn't seem quite right, particularly in the 80% example--having an 80% chance to crit is exactly symmetric to the case where you have an 80% chance to not-crit (e.g. 20% crit chance)--meaning if the expected/actual deviation in crit chance is small at 20% crit chance, there's absolutely no reason for it to be large at 80% crit chance. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On January 15 2011 23:40 ghen wrote: Eve: you don't know that Rammus: justified, his map presence is just too good to allow him to be so strong at ganking. He can be everywhere on the map really easily, added to the fact that he's such a clutch piece of a party (fights will always revolve around rammus) it just becomes too hard to deal with. Deathcap is too efficient. it's by far the most efficient AP item in the game and late game items aren't supposed to do that unless they come late in your build. I meant to say "surprised no nerf to deathcap", was a typo. And they were saving eve's ability to jungle will severally cut down, and that's pretty much the only role she can take in a decent game, so seems to me like she will become useless. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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