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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 04 2011 17:09 GMT
#501
On January 05 2011 00:55 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 22:56 oberon wrote:
Monster experience range reduced to 800 from 1250

This is the biggest change I can recall to the gameplay of League of Legends, and no one is talking about it. I can now land a Thundering Shuriken with Kennen or a volley with Ashe...but still be zoned out of XP range. Champions like Kassadin and Malphite with a dominant early poke now leave opponents a dramatically smaller window to gain experience while not tanking that skill (going from 550/600 to 100/150 in their cases).

This is a big deal.

Though noone knows what do they mean by "monster", they may just mean jungle creeps (usually they refer to lane minions as minions ) to help with mid not stealing wraith xp


Riot has used the term "monster" in patch notes before and it has ALWAYS referred to jungle creeps. Lane creeps are "minions".

Again (see my post two pages ago) this is obviously just a fix to stealing wraith xp mid.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#502
On January 04 2011 21:57 Seuss wrote:
The change to ward costs now allows for Cloth Armor + 2pot + ward on junglers. This probably means many more junglers can open with a ward.


You could already get Cloth/2pot/ward (460 gold), it's 15 gold cheaper now but still not enough cheaper to get you an extra potion.
Zero fighting.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 04 2011 19:47 GMT
#503
Somehow I had it in my head that you started with 450 gold. Too much eggnog at Christmas I guess.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
January 05 2011 01:53 GMT
#504
archangel's + cap + hourglass = 700+ ap

they really should reduce the base ap for both cap and hourglass. that's just ridiculous.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 02:35:49
January 05 2011 02:33 GMT
#505
On January 05 2011 10:53 goldenkrnboi wrote:
archangel's + cap + hourglass = 700+ ap

they really should reduce the base ap for both cap and hourglass. that's just ridiculous.

That's not really the best measure, seeing as it's like 10k worth of items--that's about as much as you should expect to see in an average game, and if you include wards, pots, boots, Doran's start, and possibly another survivability item, you're not going to finish all of that unless you're super-fed.

Hourglass is an NLR-based item. It's not going to give less than 80, and 1000g for 5 armor, 20 AP, and the active seems fine. If they're going to nerf something about it, it should be the active, not the AP, because from a pure-stats perspective, the recipe cost is already skewed WAY toward the active.

Deathcap might be a different story though--the recipe is 840g for 35 AP and the passive. From a cost-effectiveness standpoint that's disgustingly good. You pay 20 less than a Blasting Wand, and even without AP sources other than Deathcap, you're getting more AP than an NLR. Even Infinity Edge isn't that cost-effective right out of the gate.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
January 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#506
On January 05 2011 10:53 goldenkrnboi wrote:
archangel's + cap + hourglass = 700+ ap

they really should reduce the base ap for both cap and hourglass. that's just ridiculous.


Archangels + cap + hourglass does not equal 700+ ap. It equals 550+ ap. Just tested it out in game.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
January 05 2011 02:57 GMT
#507
Was dragon noticeably buffed? I can still solo it easily at level 4 with Warwick. Maybe it isn't the same w/ some other heros.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 03:08:56
January 05 2011 03:08 GMT
#508
Ehhh, I couldn't solo drag as lvl 5 with ww. Granted, I got really unlucky and got very few if any procs from razors, but he brought me down to half hp and i only took off like 1.5k..... :/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
January 05 2011 06:04 GMT
#509
Hmmm... maybe I got super lucky with procs then.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
January 05 2011 06:57 GMT
#510
Will test that tonight.

At a glance it looks pretty tough. More health and -20% AS will mean health pot may not last long enough.

I might have to put armour back onto my rune page :p

Soo much has changed! Had no idea about the global xp removal.

I wanna try BR + Wits + BC now lol. Also cdr boots look interesting. Then again everytime I've strayed from treads ive regretted it.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 07:09:38
January 05 2011 07:07 GMT
#511
On January 05 2011 11:34 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 10:53 goldenkrnboi wrote:
archangel's + cap + hourglass = 700+ ap

they really should reduce the base ap for both cap and hourglass. that's just ridiculous.


Archangels + cap + hourglass does not equal 700+ ap. It equals 550+ ap. Just tested it out in game.


...... oh yeah. i was veigar that game.

but still, was archangel's charged? if it was even half charged, it should easily break 600, 625 maybe
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 05 2011 08:20 GMT
#512
"Guys we have to remove zhonyas"
"everyone's gonna QQ"
"ok how about we just split it and make the items overpowered as fuck"
"wut"
"then next patch we can be like 'whoops we fucked up, that was way too powerful'
'that is funny because we totally tested it'"
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 09:22:12
January 05 2011 09:08 GMT
#513
Ok I tried to dragon at lvl 5 with my current rune page designed for late game. Died with him having about 100 health or so left. (using health pot and smite with double buff)

Will reslot armour and try again

Edit: ok just did it with armour yellows on my rune page. Had yellow/blue mr/lvl for better long game. Makes it easier to give up golem to someone else who needs it.

I was left with around 200 health at the end though and I got lucky with the madreds procs I think. Definitely a lot more dangerous to go for now early.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
January 05 2011 09:18 GMT
#514
On January 05 2011 17:20 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
"Guys we have to remove zhonyas"
"everyone's gonna QQ"
"ok how about we just split it and make the items overpowered as fuck"
"wut"
"then next patch we can be like 'whoops we fucked up, that was way too powerful'
'that is funny because we totally tested it'"



This zhonyas change has been in the works for like 2 months lol. It was on the "new" ptr forums before i even joined for the 2nd time.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 05 2011 09:20 GMT
#515
Mejais + RoA + Cap = 550 ap. Hohoho.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 05 2011 09:56 GMT
#516
On January 05 2011 18:20 cascades wrote:
Mejais + RoA + Cap = 550 ap. Hohoho.


O reaheaheaaaaaaaly
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
January 06 2011 01:58 GMT
#517
The newest patch is full of fail in so many ways. Caitlyn is unimaginative, boring, buggy, high priced hero. I mean... come on? Does Riot have any proper bug testing at all? The bugs she has are so easily detectable and obvious it makes me really wonder. The only thing original in her design compared to other heroes is her boob size.

This game has not delivered lately. The new heroes (trundle, cassiopeia, irelia) have such boring mechanics compared to the vanilla ones.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 06 2011 02:00 GMT
#518
On January 06 2011 10:58 suffeli wrote:
The newest patch is full of fail in so many ways. Caitlyn is unimaginative, boring, buggy, high priced hero. I mean... come on? Does Riot have any proper bug testing at all? The bugs she has are so easily detectable and obvious it makes me really wonder. The only thing original in her design compared to other heroes is her boob size.

This game has not delivered lately. The new heroes (trundle, cassiopeia, irelia) have such boring mechanics compared to the vanilla ones.

you're full of fail in so many ways
just because pantheons passive blocks her ult as does people running in the bush, hallucinate, and vlad's w, doesnt mean that your silly ranged carry build will work on her. Try something else. Like tiamats.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 06 2011 02:26 GMT
#519
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 06 2011 03:02 GMT
#520
On January 06 2011 11:26 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 11:00 Caller wrote:
On January 06 2011 10:58 suffeli wrote:
The newest patch is full of fail in so many ways. Caitlyn is unimaginative, boring, buggy, high priced hero. I mean... come on? Does Riot have any proper bug testing at all? The bugs she has are so easily detectable and obvious it makes me really wonder. The only thing original in her design compared to other heroes is her boob size.

This game has not delivered lately. The new heroes (trundle, cassiopeia, irelia) have such boring mechanics compared to the vanilla ones.

you're full of fail in so many ways
just because pantheons passive blocks her ult as does people running in the bush, hallucinate, and vlad's w, doesnt mean that your silly ranged carry build will work on her. Try something else. Like tiamats.

No you're full of fail in so many ways.
just because you go tiamats doesn't mean that your silly brave build will work on everyone who uses it. Try something else. Like something normal.

i did and shes bad with normal items tru fax
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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