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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 14 2010 19:41 GMT
#321
I think it was 55% bonus AD and either 30 or 35% AP. Gunblade is better than BT on her after this... 55 vs. 60-65ish if my numbers are right, + a nuke with a slow, + spell vamp (she's one of the few characters who actually gets reasonable returns off of spell vamp.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 19:46:05
December 14 2010 19:42 GMT
#322
Okay, sure, but is still worth the base damage reduction on her ult (not an insignificant decrease, especially when it's early and all you have is like Sorc and Guise!) and the slaughter of BB early-game lane control?

Edit:
I mean maybe I'm just crazy but I don't find +10 damage improvement of Gun>BT worth hailing over the 10/15/20 reduc on her ult and the destruction of BB.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 14 2010 19:48 GMT
#323
On December 15 2010 04:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Rofl...it's almost like Riot starting learning from Blizzard on how to balance games xP

But on a more srs note...HOLY crap. So many pointless nerfs on...everything. LW change makes absolutely no sense imo...Then again...ugot buff? Really? Urgot needs a remake if anything imo lol

My guess is Riot got tired of Critfinity + LW being the marriage made in heaven for DPS champions. I'm expecting to see more Ghostblades, Black Cleavers, SotD's, Zeals / Phantom Dancers and Starks' now.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 14 2010 19:51 GMT
#324
On December 15 2010 04:42 Southlight wrote:
Okay, sure, but is still worth the base damage reduction on her ult (not an insignificant decrease, especially when it's early and all you have is like Sorc and Guise!) and the slaughter of BB early-game lane control?

Edit:
I mean maybe I'm just crazy but I don't find +10 damage improvement of Gun>BT worth hailing over the 10/15/20 reduc on her ult and the destruction of BB.

oh yea, no I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that GB is better than BT now, not that the net effect is a buff on Kat, lol.
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Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 19:53:04
December 14 2010 19:52 GMT
#325
Will phantom dancer be more viable on ranged carries after the LW change? You'll need a new source of aspd, crit% is moar crit% and i like the movement speed increase because carries are so damn slow now.
Im thinking of something like IE+LW+phantom.

The only ranged dps i play is tristana, though, so i'm no expert.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 14 2010 19:53 GMT
#326
why is no one excited over the friggin SWAIN BUFF
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 19:55:37
December 14 2010 19:55 GMT
#327
On December 15 2010 04:52 Awesomo wrote:
Will phantom dancer be more viable on ranged carries after the LW change? You'll need a new source of aspd, crit% is moar crit% and i like the movement speed increase because carries are so damn slow now.
Im thinking of something like IE+LW+phantom.

The only ranged dps i play is tristana, though, so i'm no expert.

yea, something like that makes sense I guess. I mean, you're going to need to follow IE up with SotD, Starks, or PD most of the time, and PD seems pretty good with the Crit I guess.


On December 15 2010 04:53 Tooplark wrote:
why is no one excited over the friggin SWAIN BUFF

Who? Is that the name of the Buff Wolf on TT or something?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 14 2010 20:02 GMT
#328
On December 15 2010 04:53 Tooplark wrote:
why is no one excited over the friggin SWAIN BUFF

Only character I see played less than Urgot.
And while I'm potentially excited about the changes to Urgot (yet wary that the earlygame nerf is going to make him somehow worse) it sucks because now for some reason people think he's good and FotM.

If he gets nerfed because people complain (or even if more people start playing him) I'll be sad.
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
December 14 2010 20:05 GMT
#329
Hmmm... if you max CDR and spam spells you can probably get 3 minions at a time now with Malz. Gonna be so fun.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 20:46:54
December 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#330
sooooooo i just played a game and there are a few things i noticed

1. jungling is dead
-if you pick a jungler and your opponents do not, your solo will BARELY be level 5 when the duo is level 4. your solo will be zoned and eliminated against decent opponents. in fact, if you see the other team take warwick you should take people that can zone their top laner, give one of them teleport for a dragon fight and you win the game. the solo lane experience was absolutely demolished.
-no HP on level up kills jungling speed of like half the jungling champs
-if you aren't playing a jungler named warwick (or maybe rammus) and the other team is, they will just walk in your jungle and rape your shit sideways

2. urgot is still fucking awful
-just terrible. why is this champ not being reworked yet?

3. janna is the best champion in the game, janna/MF might be the strongest combination in the game

4. there are no viable items to give you MR + Health
-spirit visage too expensive for what it gives (imo)
-banshee's veil nerfed to fucking shit

5. malphite is still OP, people just won't ban him any more because of his "nerf"

6. the game is terrible now.
-so is the new typset for stats and chat. fuck.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 14 2010 20:52 GMT
#331
time to start looking for a new game, was fun while it lasted

time to boot up Shitcraft 2

or maybe play some civilization hmm

or just wait for valve to release dota 2...


as the great rammus would say to this patch









ok
Brees on in
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 14 2010 20:52 GMT
#332
On December 15 2010 05:41 gtrsrs wrote:
sooooooo i just played a game and there are a few things i noticed

1. jungling is dead
-if you pick a jungler and your opponents do not, your solo will BARELY be level 5 when the duo is level 4. your solo will be zoned and eliminated against decent opponents. in fact, if you see the other team take warwick you should take people that can zone their top laner, give one of them teleport for a dragon fight and you win the game. the solo lane experience was absolutely demolished.
-no HP on level up kills jungling speed of like half the jungling champs
-if you aren't playing a jungler named warwick (or maybe rammus) and the other team is, they will just walk in your jungle and rape your shit sideways

2. urgot is still fucking awful
-just terrible. why is this champ not being reworked yet?

3. janna is the best champion in the game, janna/MF might be the strongest combination in the game

4. there are no viable items to give you MR + Health
-spirit visage too expensive for what it gives (imo)
-banshee's veil nerfed to fucking shit

5. malphite is still OP, people just won't ban him any more because of his "nerf"

6. the game is terrible now.
-so is the new typset for stats and chat. fuck.

You make me want to punch a baby in the face
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 14 2010 21:00 GMT
#333
It sounds like this time next week the forums will be full of people posting their anecdotes about how their solo top lane picked someone like LeBlanc and got destroyed.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 14 2010 21:03 GMT
#334
On December 15 2010 05:52 Brees wrote:
or just wait for valve to release dota 2...


i can't wait honestly. back to my roots
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 14 2010 21:06 GMT
#335
You'll all be back!

Yo Smash wanna try that GP + Pantheon vs top solo? Hahaha we will be higher levels than the solo.
Retvrn to Forvms
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:08:34
December 14 2010 21:07 GMT
#336
On December 15 2010 06:00 Seuss wrote:
It sounds like this time next week the forums will be full of people posting their anecdotes about how their solo top lane picked someone like LeBlanc and got destroyed.

no one was legitimately viable in a 1v2 before this patch. Making it even harder was.... well, not too smart IMO.


On December 15 2010 06:06 Chrispy wrote:
You'll all be back!

Yo Smash wanna try that GP + Pantheon vs top solo? Hahaha we will be higher levels than the solo.

If I can get Pantheon, yes, very much yes. Otherwise, let's just do Sion + GP.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 14 2010 21:34 GMT
#337
2v1 was a horrible idea before this patch. Even if your toplane had trouble your jungler had no problem since he controls the whole jungle, all buffs and dragon.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 14 2010 21:39 GMT
#338
On December 15 2010 06:07 Mogwai wrote:
no one was legitimately viable in a 1v2 before this patch. Making it even harder was.... well, not too smart IMO.

Yeah, I think the big problem is that Riot designed this around the fact that 99% of people don't know how to play a 2v1 correctly, and therefore don't generate as much advantage out of it as they should.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#339
On December 15 2010 06:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 06:07 Mogwai wrote:
no one was legitimately viable in a 1v2 before this patch. Making it even harder was.... well, not too smart IMO.

Yeah, I think the big problem is that Riot designed this around the fact that 99% of people don't know how to play a 2v1 correctly, and therefore don't generate as much advantage out of it as they should.

Yep, if you just deny the soloer exp and then sit in bushes waiting without lasthitting at all so that the lane stays back(until you're like lvl 3 vs the lvl 1 sololaner and then start lasthitting etc), it's just impossible and jungler has to come to help.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 14 2010 22:09 GMT
#340
we should start playing DotA IH's with liquidparty people hahah
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