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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 14 2010 16:53 GMT
#281
On December 15 2010 01:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Probably.

But guys, I just wanna call it now--this is NOT a chogath nerf. He recovers less hp but RUPTURE IS A HALF SECOND FASTER. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I'M GONNA ROLL FOOLS???

0.05 != half second... it's one twentieth of a second.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 17:08:42
December 14 2010 16:55 GMT
#282
zzz, let's see how the new AD garen does. Probably have to flash in for his silnce, judgement and ult now. Probably relies on w and red fort for survivability.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#283
I liek Garen. Stop making me sad.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 14 2010 16:58 GMT
#284
Never fear! Garen will just have to open D-Blade and AD reds and quints! And then Last whisper (assuming the passive works for his spin2win) and then INFINITY EDGE and then PHANTOM DANCER FOR MOAR MOVE SPEED.

And yes, there will be pentas.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2010 16:59 GMT
#285
Chrispy gives me faith!
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 14 2010 17:00 GMT
#286
On December 15 2010 01:58 Chrispy wrote:
Never fear! Garen will just have to open D-Blade and AD reds and quints! And then Last whisper (assuming the passive works for his spin2win) and then INFINITY EDGE and then PHANTOM DANCER FOR MOAR MOVE SPEED.

And yes, there will be pentas.



As long as they haven't changed where ArPen effect physical damage dealing abilities, it should buff his E significantly.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 14 2010 17:09 GMT
#287
Innervating Locket has been removed
whaaaaaaaat

Ok i guess the whole locket+visage IS GOOD ON EVERYONE was getting kinda ridiculous.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 17:13:21
December 14 2010 17:11 GMT
#288
Screw it, we'll just see how garen turns out. No gay theorycrqafting.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 14 2010 17:13 GMT
#289
Maybe with the veil nerfs Hexdrinker will become popular :O
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g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
December 14 2010 17:13 GMT
#290
Corki will be pleased by the Last Whisper changes I guess... Good thing no one in europe bans him.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 14 2010 17:21 GMT
#291
I think I'm gonna feel this Randuin's CDR nerf. That's .7 seconds added on to every Shadow Dash :|

The Malz passive change is sooooo gud though. CDRTankzahar just got 20% more voidlings. Gonna ling rush yr lanes
it's my first day
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
December 14 2010 17:23 GMT
#292
On December 15 2010 02:21 myopia wrote:
I think I'm gonna feel this Randuin's CDR nerf. That's .7 seconds added on to every Shadow Dash :|

The Malz passive change is sooooo gud though. CDRTankzahar just got 20% more voidlings. Gonna ling rush yr lanes

I haven't played Malzahar. Can you have more than one ling at a time?
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 14 2010 17:24 GMT
#293
yep, they only live for 21 seconds though so I don't think it's possible to get more than 2 even with this buff
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 18:00:48
December 14 2010 18:00 GMT
#294
No more locket alistar, godamnit

And WTF way to nerf malph as soon as I buy him :C
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 18:17:40
December 14 2010 18:15 GMT
#295
On December 15 2010 02:11 0123456789 wrote:
Screw it, we'll just see how garen turns out. No gay theorycrqafting.

shut up and face it, the character is fucking dead. In order to do as much damage as old garen with no AD items, new level 18 garen needs to have... let's see...

I don't feel like looking anything new up, so let's say he has 100 base AD at level 18.

So old Garen did 95+35 = 130/0.5 seconds = 260/second. New Garen does 180/second. New Garen needs 80 AD just to catch up. If old Garen had built AD (which was rejected for sucking ass because then you just fucking die), you'd need to have 240 AD for new Garen to catch up to old AD Garen in terms of spin damage output.

Can you wrap your head around that? This doesn't need to go beyond theorycrafting. He was a bad Melee DPS and a pretty good offtank. Now, he's an offtank with no hard disables and no damage or a Melee DPS that doesn't catch up to the old Melee DPS that sucked ass until he gets to +240 bonus damage.

HE
IS
FUCKING
DEAD

Stop living in denial, don't bother wasting your time playing him and just let it go. 3 months from now he might get a buff that makes him playable again, but atm, he's worthless.


On December 15 2010 01:58 Chrispy wrote:
Never fear! Garen will just have to open D-Blade and AD reds and quints! And then Last whisper (assuming the passive works for his spin2win) and then INFINITY EDGE and then PHANTOM DANCER FOR MOAR MOVE SPEED.

And yes, there will be pentas.

Chrispy, I love you, but we're not talking about GP or Teemo bad. We're talking about new Garen bad. This character is not worth playing. Please don't subject yourself to playing this abortion of a champion.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 18:17:43
December 14 2010 18:17 GMT
#296
On December 15 2010 01:41 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 01:33 arnath wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is this patch a buff to MF?

Last Whisper change that will help champions who rely on skills which deal physical damage and scale with AD (+aspd part didn't help double ups, ez's mystic shots etc)

Except those champs still want a late game AS item post-IE/BT because once you buy enough AD, you start wanting AS to scale your sustained damage output. By the time you get around to getting LW, you're not getting it to maximize your Double Up damage anymore, you're getting it because it's arguably the best AS item in the game.

It might be a better item for those champs now, but LW isn't fitting quite the same role it did before anymore, so if they get it, IMO they're going to slot it into a different place.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 14 2010 18:18 GMT
#297
On December 15 2010 01:53 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 01:52 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Probably.

But guys, I just wanna call it now--this is NOT a chogath nerf. He recovers less hp but RUPTURE IS A HALF SECOND FASTER. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I'M GONNA ROLL FOOLS???

0.05 != half second... it's one twentieth of a second.

Cho got raped. His role of shitting on people sololane is pretty much gone so he'll be just another sidelane tank that you get when you can't get Shen taric garen etc..
Though with Malph and Gragas being nerfed (who have a similar role to Cho) it might not be that big of a problem, guess we'll have to see.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 14 2010 18:19 GMT
#298
Garen sucks ass Shake. Give me nerfed Cho, nerfed Grag, lanewick, tank swain, tank teemo, tank Ashe, just anything other than Garen.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 14 2010 18:30 GMT
#299
On December 15 2010 03:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 01:41 Kaniol wrote:
On December 15 2010 01:33 arnath wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is this patch a buff to MF?

Last Whisper change that will help champions who rely on skills which deal physical damage and scale with AD (+aspd part didn't help double ups, ez's mystic shots etc)

Except those champs still want a late game AS item post-IE/BT because once you buy enough AD, you start wanting AS to scale your sustained damage output. By the time you get around to getting LW, you're not getting it to maximize your Double Up damage anymore, you're getting it because it's arguably the best AS item in the game.

It might be a better item for those champs now, but LW isn't fitting quite the same role it did before anymore, so if they get it, IMO they're going to slot it into a different place.


I was thinking trinity force ---> Last Whisper on ezreal

yeah it's a completely different item now, but on heroes that aren't really scaling with attack speed for most of the game it just went bonkers.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 14 2010 18:31 GMT
#300
anyone else feels that poppy / akali / kennen / ashe / sivir will be the new thing?

Also, TRIforce
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