EPT[Discussion] Patch Notes - Page 102
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BlackPaladin
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Haemonculus
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Southlight
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Two_DoWn
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South: I think the thing with tanky dps and actual tanks is that somewhere along the lines riot fucked up. You look at the initial batch of tanky dps and none of them have any gap closers. The best cc ability is mundo's cleaver slow, and some like morde dont even have one. And those who did have cc generally lost out in some other respect (ie blitz with low damage, pre buff alistar on damage and farm). All of a sudden we start to see champs like irelia, renekton, and jarvan with stuns AND gap closers, and also free of any of the drawbacks of any of the previous champions. Irelia farms, does a ton of damage, has cc, and never dies. Pure tanks on the other hand generally had low damage but high cc, amumu, malphite, rammus. However, with all of the new tanky dps champions having large amounts of cc, there is literally no reason to pick one anymore. | ||
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Slayer91
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Mogwai
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Mogwai
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GiygaS
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dnastyx
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On June 21 2011 23:58 Woony wrote: In terms of Renekton, why isn't he played anymore? I swear I haven't seen a single one in ages. Because why pick Renekton when you need to build twice as many items to do the same damage as he did pre-nerf and stay tanky? Just pick Jarman. | ||
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Allegria
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Overall good nerfs and buffs this patch, little concerned with fiddle - dat crowstorm can be OP so fast | ||
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zalz
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On June 22 2011 02:49 Allegria wrote: I'm so friggin' happy that Eve gets bent over hard - no autolosses in normals and one more ban in ranked <3 Overall good nerfs and buffs this patch, little concerned with fiddle - dat crowstorm can be OP so fast Words fail to describe the glee i felt when i heard the stun was being removed from Eve. Without that stun she can rightfully take the place again as worst piece of shit champion in the game but holy shit, i will not mind for a second. Every normal i went into with an enemy Eve was an absolute disaster. It doesn't matter if i get ganked or not because i have to permanently play as if she is around unless i see her on the map somewhere. A few games ago i got ganked 10 fucking times by that Eve bitch. Either you drain yourself by buying an insane ammount of super wards or you get stunned every time you walk more then a fucking meter from the tower. Eve isn't just anti-fun because that would imply that playing a game against Eve is no fun. It goes past the no-fun zone and straight into annoyance town. Nothing is more rage inducing then an eve. The playstyle you are expected to adapt to survive is just ridiculous. Denying yourself gold and exp because you can't see Eve even though she might be on the other half of the map. | ||
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spinesheath
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Slayer91
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gtrsrs
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On June 22 2011 03:57 spinesheath wrote: And then again there wasn't a single Eve ban or pick in DH. RIGHT? right? lol last night i was playing a solo queue game, enemy team first picked eve she was laning, staying bot the entire time, and still managed to get 3 pretty quick kills on our real noob duo queue bot lane so out comes the QQ "eve is so broken i'm glad they're nerfing her tomorrow" "yeah she's the dumbest champion, as soon as she gets lichbane she can 1-shot any champion in the game, no champ should have that" "yeah stealth + that much AP is OP" "yeah how are we supposed to beat that?" i check eve's items: sheen, phage, recurve bow, boots 1 me: "hey guys eve doesn't even have any items yet, why are you bitching about lichbane" "lichbane isn't what makes her OP! noob!" me: "eve wasn't picked or banned in a single dreamhack game" "that doesn't mean anything those players know how to deal with eve" me: "so buy a fucking pink ward and SHUT THE FUCK UP" "/surrender" i laughed | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Still doesn't fix "ohgod someone appeared on top of me" as Eve kills you. If it's a 3 second slow like they were saying, it might actually be a buff early game, because it stops people from getting away from longer. (Although they don't have to wait to waste flash anymore! Oh no!) To nerf her pubstomping, they should have done something about the stealth duration/cooldown as well as the stupid health regen on her ultimate. The stun isn't even close to the worst thing about that champion. She's not overpowered by any means, but she's a stupidly designed champion that pubstomps retardedly well. | ||
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Caller
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On June 22 2011 04:09 dnastyx wrote: When they said they were going to nerf Eve, I thought they were actually going to nerf her. Still doesn't fix "ohgod someone appeared on top of me" as Eve kills you. If it's a 3 second slow like they were saying, it might actually be a buff early game, because it stops people from getting away from longer. (Although they don't have to wait to waste flash anymore! Oh no!) To nerf her pubstomping, they should have done something about the stealth duration/cooldown as well as the stupid health regen on her ultimate. The stun isn't even close to the worst thing about that champion. She's not overpowered by any means, but she's a stupidly designed champion that pubstomps retardedly well. counter pick garen eve comes to gank garen spintowin | ||
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JackDino
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On June 22 2011 04:14 Caller wrote: counter pick garen eve comes to gank garen spintowin How you gonna play GP after the next patch?! | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On June 22 2011 04:09 dnastyx wrote: If it's a 3 second slow like they were saying, it might actually be a buff early game, because it stops people from getting away from longer. (Although they don't have to wait to waste flash anymore! Oh no!) I am pretty sure they said the slow time would increases as she gains levels and the max was 3 seconds. So it is probably a 1 second slow at early levels which is certainly not a buff. | ||
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