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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 13 2011 19:33 GMT
#17081
On June 14 2011 04:20 Kaniol wrote:
Chaox released his caitlynn guide: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=1700. Anyone knows why does he go for archaic knowledge even though both Q and R deal physical dmg?

He goes Perseverance over Good Hands too. I am not so sure if all those mastery setups are all that thought out.

Does that explanation for BT > IE make sense to anyone? BT only heals you when you attack, but he says that you run when you get low, so BT doesn't heal you because you, well, run instead of attacking. Also carries usually die to burst, not slowly. BT doesn't do much there.
If you want a reason to go BT > IE, it should be Q and R not scaling with crit. But autoattacking with IE is just too good imo. Another reason would be better sustainability in lane, but he only mentions sustainability in fights.
Also that early Zeal... I don't get it. It's a lot of money spent on crit. Crit is a weak stat this early in the game. Finishing zerkers earlier seems much better to me. And zerkers + zeal before any big items is extremely weak.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 13 2011 19:49 GMT
#17082
Can jiji be streaming The Hangover, lol?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Zulit
Profile Joined August 2004
Czech Republic16 Posts
June 13 2011 19:52 GMT
#17083
I would completely disregard that "guide". All points Spine mentioned are valid. I prefer to play with BT as well, because it scales your Q and R better, its cheaper and gives you better lane presence if you can get it in 15 minute mark (considering I am at bot lane with support) or earlier. Zeal+Berserk only makes sense if team is full of noncc champions, otherwise Cait will die a lot, even with good nets but still its inferior to fast BF Sword.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:58:53
June 13 2011 19:58 GMT
#17084
On June 14 2011 04:33 spinesheath wrote:
Also that early Zeal... I don't get it. It's a lot of money spent on crit. Crit is a weak stat this early in the game. Finishing zerkers earlier seems much better to me. And zerkers + zeal before any big items is extremely weak.

Sometimes I wonder if high-Elo players purposely put bad ideas into their guides to troll people with, but the ideas aren't bad enough that you realise s/he is trolling.

On a side note, I think BT>IE because it gives more raw AD and Cait shouldn't have a hard time charging her BT up. Her long range should also let her kite well. It's also cheaper by ~600 so that means finishing Beserkers earlier. I don't actually play Cait though, so this is more theory-crafting than anything else. I think Clever Advisor goes IE first.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
June 13 2011 20:04 GMT
#17085
Why does watching Hotshot+Jiji+Chaox+Lapakaa+Westrice play 5s vs Europeans not seem any different from watching 5-man team full of CLG players play vs Europeans coordination-wise?
Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
June 13 2011 20:48 GMT
#17086
CLG has always been 5 great solo que players vs 5 man teams. Not much coordination from CLG which is why when they dont win all lanes they lose most of the time, unless they steal baron lol.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
June 13 2011 21:15 GMT
#17087
What do you guys think of double-heal teams? One of them almost certainly has to be Nidalee in a normal comp, but i've played a few Soraka+Nidalee games and it feels so absurd to basically be able to heal someone for 2k+ on the engage.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
June 13 2011 21:20 GMT
#17088
On June 14 2011 06:15 Niton wrote:
What do you guys think of double-heal teams? One of them almost certainly has to be Nidalee in a normal comp, but i've played a few Soraka+Nidalee games and it feels so absurd to basically be able to heal someone for 2k+ on the engage.


I thought I saw someone running triple support in ESL games last week against CLG(?). IIRC they had Zilean, Sona, Soraka and it worked out pretty good for them as it was jsut impossible to kill anyone.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 21:54:48
June 13 2011 21:43 GMT
#17089
I am tired of constantly switching my stream adress, so I am stuck with Livestream for the next little while.
Is there any way for my stream to keep broadcasting even when i enter/exit LoL games or are they too derp to put that in?

Also, I played against my first Urgot yesterday. If you can't dodge E, you can't dodge a ball. I suck at dodgeball.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
June 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#17090
I tune in to SK Oce's stream and I see that he doesn't look like a total douche and it should be fun watching him... Then 5 seconds later he dies to Cass as Karthus and proceeds to tell his Mumu to die of several types of cancers and that his mom has AIDS....

Now every1 in his games are trolling him about it and especially all of the other SK members on Teamspeak.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 13 2011 21:54 GMT
#17091
On June 14 2011 06:20 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:15 Niton wrote:
What do you guys think of double-heal teams? One of them almost certainly has to be Nidalee in a normal comp, but i've played a few Soraka+Nidalee games and it feels so absurd to basically be able to heal someone for 2k+ on the engage.


I thought I saw someone running triple support in ESL games last week against CLG(?). IIRC they had Zilean, Sona, Soraka and it worked out pretty good for them as it was jsut impossible to kill anyone.


I wouldn't say it was so much that unR "won" those games as CLG decided they wanted to throw them away for free.
Asdkmoga
Profile Joined May 2010
United States496 Posts
June 13 2011 22:04 GMT
#17092
someone go make a rumble page plz, i'd appreciate it
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action and over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some shit."
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 13 2011 22:38 GMT
#17093
On June 14 2011 07:04 Asdkmoga wrote:
someone go make a rumble page plz, i'd appreciate it

I wouldn't mind doing so, but there are probably more qualified people in TL who could make it. Unless TL is okay with me making a Rumble Thread?

On June 14 2011 06:43 57 Corvette wrote:
Also, I played against my first Urgot yesterday. If you can't dodge E, you can't dodge a ball. I suck at dodgeball.

Most Urgots aim the E slightly behind you since they expect you to run backwards. So sometimes you want to walk forwards a bit instead. Opening Boots+3Pots also helps a lot in this regard.

Or play Lanewick. That guys shrugs of harass like a baws.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#17094
On June 14 2011 07:38 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:43 57 Corvette wrote:
Also, I played against my first Urgot yesterday. If you can't dodge E, you can't dodge a ball. I suck at dodgeball.

Most Urgots aim the E slightly behind you since they expect you to run backwards. So sometimes you want to walk forwards a bit instead. Opening Boots+3Pots also helps a lot in this regard.

Or play Lanewick. That guys shrugs of harass like a baws.


Yeah, i probably should figure they are aimed like that. I do the same thing with Swain's W.
Oh well, I am just glad that Urgots are far and wide between.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 23:15:54
June 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#17095
On June 14 2011 07:38 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:04 Asdkmoga wrote:
someone go make a rumble page plz, i'd appreciate it

I wouldn't mind doing so, but there are probably more qualified people in TL who could make it. Unless TL is okay with me making a Rumble Thread?

If you are dedicated to updating the OP with content other, hopefully extremely skilled, people post in that thread then go ahead and make the thread. You could be 500 elo and play AD Rumble yourself - as long as you link guides made by good players in the thread it's going to be a good thread.

And of course I expect you not to be completely incompetent either.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 23:43:53
June 13 2011 23:43 GMT
#17096
Apparently, HotshotGG's account got hacked by some Polish guy and he changed the summoner name to "King of Kimchi". That's pretty... uh, weird I suppose. The name choice, I mean.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
June 13 2011 23:52 GMT
#17097
http://www.mediafire.com/?i03sb3i6e0lg0dk

Theres the link to the calculator. It's in beta right onw as it only has 5 items pre-set, but oyu can still input stats as normal.

Tell me any bugs you encounter.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
June 13 2011 23:57 GMT
#17098
On June 14 2011 03:45 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 01:16 GiygaS wrote:
So I'm working on a LoL Item efficiency calculator for Comp Science. It has a item database where you can just select the item, hit calculate, and it tell you the efficiency of the given item. Right now, the base framework is in, I just need to make an entry for all the items (I only have 5 right now). Is anyone interested in this?


yo

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216685


Also, at this. It's not updated. And it doesn't have M Regen or Health Regen on it. Tiamat is actually cost efficient on mine.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
June 13 2011 23:58 GMT
#17099
On June 14 2011 08:43 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, HotshotGG's account got hacked by some Polish guy and he changed the summoner name to "King of Kimchi". That's pretty... uh, weird I suppose. The name choice, I mean.


er, what?

care to elaborate, cause king of kimchi and hotshotgg are clearly 2 diff accounts
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 14 2011 00:01 GMT
#17100
On June 14 2011 08:58 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 08:43 Nikon wrote:
Apparently, HotshotGG's account got hacked by some Polish guy and he changed the summoner name to "King of Kimchi". That's pretty... uh, weird I suppose. The name choice, I mean.


er, what?

care to elaborate, cause king of kimchi and hotshotgg are clearly 2 diff accounts


What, I've never seen him use that account before... even so, some of his rune pages were called "Greetings from Poland" "Change your password" and the likes. I guess I just assumed that they changed the name as well, haha.
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