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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 09 2011 08:34 GMT
#11821
Those minion changes 2strong
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 09:15:44
April 09 2011 08:54 GMT
#11822
On April 09 2011 17:34 dnastyx wrote:
Those minion changes 2strong


Yeah, minions are retardedly OP. When you have 2-3 inhibs down even when the enemy has baron they can only really defend because if they go out for even 20 seconds their base will be pushed and they will auto lose the game. Completely different to where you could push and then back, kill creepwaves, and then go push again even if you were behind. Even just with 1 inhib down that threat exists for your nexus turrets and you can lose them and the game if you leave. It never was as bad before, but with minions taking quite a few tower hits each endgame, it becomes a lot more detrimental since towers can't even defend themselves.

edit:

Tempt you with this for a good 5 mins. Too good:

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"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 09:23:00
April 09 2011 09:20 GMT
#11823
Yea wtf is going on with the servers!?!?

It raced through the queue from 1k to 1 in like 1m. What a load of BS.

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I got in now. Servers seem fucked. Dammit i got a clan v clan game in an hr too
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
April 09 2011 10:11 GMT
#11824
On April 09 2011 07:30 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 07:22 Lanzoma wrote:
Also, where the hell is normal draft mode.


Pretty sure this is not going to happen... Splitting the players searching for a game in 3 categories (without counting 3v3 and arranged 5s) will increase queues times, witch is not a good thing. Besides, normal is for fun and trying new heros, why would you even want draft in that? I wouldn't mind a preview of their team before starting tho, going against mundo and team has no exaust is never a good thing


Solo Queue> Normal>

[ x ] Draft
[ x ] Blind Pick

shouldn't be too hard, most solo queue players would probably check both anyway since it doesn't matter that much to them. The argument for draft mode in normals is so you can actually get your feet wet before jumping into ranked - it's kind of funny how the 'competitive' and 'non-competitive' modes in a game are completely different.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
April 09 2011 10:29 GMT
#11825
On April 09 2011 18:20 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Yea wtf is going on with the servers!?!?

It raced through the queue from 1k to 1 in like 1m. What a load of BS.

[image loading]

I got in now. Servers seem fucked. Dammit i got a clan v clan game in an hr too
You're not actually number 1k in the queue the drop in numbers is always the same, Riot just wants you to believe that more players are playing than there actually is. That or its some kind of strange in joke.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 09 2011 10:35 GMT
#11826
I'm grinding my way up the ladder. At around what ELO and level do warding, proper jungling, setting up lanes, and otherwise proper play become important? Right now I'm just running around stealing all the farm with revive port support heroes to buy hundreds of AP and it's working.
But why?
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
April 09 2011 10:47 GMT
#11827
servers unavailable but you can still konami code past that and then there's no queue

i thought they added the queue to stop konami code abuse when the servers are taking a dump like this
2035
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 09 2011 10:49 GMT
#11828
On April 09 2011 19:35 EmeraldSparks wrote:
I'm grinding my way up the ladder. At around what ELO and level do warding, proper jungling, setting up lanes, and otherwise proper play become important? Right now I'm just running around stealing all the farm with revive port support heroes to buy hundreds of AP and it's working.

At every Elo. At lower Elo it's even more important because it will give you 50000 games winning streak :S
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 09 2011 10:52 GMT
#11829
Ya. Elo level shouldn't matter with warding, as it gives an even bigger advantage if the enemy team isn't doing it.
So zen.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
April 09 2011 10:57 GMT
#11830
Buying wards in games of a level where Zeal stacking wins games seems like cheating..

I guess it will hurry things up.
But why?
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
April 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#11831
They want to reduce average game length and reduce snowballing at the same time. I guess the only way they could do this was through modifying minions/towers. With the way they have it set up now games are almost always even enough in pubs that you can make a comeback right up until the point where you lose some of your base. This is fair enough when you think about it, but it just feels weird in game because your team might still be strong enough that a good initiation or something like that could easily result in an ace for your team but you are basically stuck in your base while the other team gets 2x jungle/barons/dragons until they win.

The one downside it seems like they didn't anticipate was split pushers that are super hard to stop in pubs can single handedly win games just by pushing the base while you fight over other objectives, and of course if they actually destroy enough towers or waste enough of your time what seemed like an even game now becomes very hard for the team who got split pushed to win. It just means pub games now often revolve around trying to shut down a teemo/nidalee/singed from pushing your base rather than team fighting etc...

Personally I would find it more fun if to reduce the game time they left minions/towers as they were and made it a bit easier to snowball from actually killing the other team. It's kind of irritating that to actually "carry" in pubs you have to go around ganking no matter what lane you're in, but in reality if not for the fact you are better than your opposition the dominate strategy is clearly to sit in lane and farm since the reward for killing people in reality is just not that high, especially when the other team can just end your spree for a huge bounty come teamfights.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 09 2011 12:56 GMT
#11832
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 09 2011 12:57 GMT
#11833
On April 09 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/

Aka increase snowballing which they want to avoid
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 09 2011 13:05 GMT
#11834
On April 09 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/

I would argue that ganking is already pretty damn effective with jungle + roamer + flash. At least if you are not one of those ungankable champs with 10 escape abilities.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 13:35:11
April 09 2011 13:34 GMT
#11835
On April 09 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/


I doubt they do that. Not making players loose gold on death was a choice they probably made right of the start so dying is not as frustrating as in Dot or HoN:
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 09 2011 13:36 GMT
#11836
On April 09 2011 22:34 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/


I doubt they do that. Not making players loose gold on death was a choice they probably made right of the start so dying is not as frustrating as in Dot or HoN:


That's exactly it and why they won't ever do it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 09 2011 13:39 GMT
#11837
Bad players would get too mad at never being able to afford items. :D
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 09 2011 14:14 GMT
#11838
Hmm, well this normal draft pick looks like a cool idea, but i would need to get more than 1 champion before I can really dive into it. The fact that the only character I have bought is also currently free doesn't help.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 14:22:52
April 09 2011 14:22 GMT
#11839
Man, ryze is so fun (and op)
Sadly, the 0/6 kennen and 0/4 lee sin (both top lane) stopped me from enjoying the full game (surrender at 30min)
Edit: I was 8/3 too, just couldn't carry them :/
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 09 2011 14:44 GMT
#11840
On April 09 2011 22:05 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
It would be pretty simple to make ganking more effective, as well - Just make the players lose some gold when they die. =/

I would argue that ganking is already pretty damn effective with jungle + roamer + flash. At least if you are not one of those ungankable champs with 10 escape abilities.

Well they go hand-to-hand... then one thing is making super minions weaker. As is a 15-20min inhib is gg cos they're toos trong
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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