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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:17 locodoco wrote: things that are op this patch that people havent really caught on to yet cata->deathcap->hourglass swain 9/21/0 2~3 hog->banshee/sunfire->atmas jarvan 0/21/9 boots->sheen->mobil alistar 9/0/21 the top 3 op things that arent banned 24/7 i highly recommened every to try all 3 atleast once ROAM COW! | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:49 Woony wrote: Swain OP? What patches or metagame shifts exactly turned him from mediocre to OP? He isn't mediocre he's always been around top level games but never gets noticed because he doesn't single target rape that much he just heals and does mass aoe damage. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:49 Woony wrote: Swain OP? What patches or metagame shifts exactly turned him from mediocre to OP? He's been good for a long time, hes just not easy to play | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:43 Two_DoWn wrote: I agree with the item build on swain, but why 9-21? It isnt like you need survivability all that much since you are unkillable in lane at 6, and the cdr is awesome. Maybe it's because I'm awful with Swain, but my impression would be that it's because Swain get's totally bullied around before 6 otherwise. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:17 locodoco wrote: things that are op this patch that people havent really caught on to yet cata->deathcap->hourglass swain 9/21/0 that's what I do on swain except sometimes with tear instead of or in addition to cata Two_Down: you'd be amazed at just how much bulkier full defensive tree makes you. Plus you don't need anything from utility tree if you manage mana carefully (except the blue buff extension which would be nice). Partly it helps you harass with e-auto in lane. Partly it gives you a modest chunk of additional health. Partly Strength of Singed is still imba. And that 4% decrease feels much stronger than it sounds. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On March 10 2011 06:49 Woony wrote: Swain OP? What patches or metagame shifts exactly turned him from mediocre to OP? None of the above. Since MF (i think since her) most of the champions were considered absolute garbage after release and even though Riot didn't change too much afterwards players simply discovered how to play them. Actually this rule doesn't only apply to champions released post-MF. Eve? Malphite? Gragas? Old Janna? Not to mention back in times when nobody played junglers and ww was considered the worst champion ever (because he disappears in jungle, allowing his ally to die 50 times 1v2 and then comes out of the jungle 20 mins into the game with a BF sword doing nothing) Swain wasn't considered mediocore because he had bad skills/stats, Swain was considered mediocore because noone knew how to play him well. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On March 10 2011 07:09 TheYango wrote: Maybe it's because I'm awful with Swain, but my impression would be that it's because Swain get's totally bullied around before 6 otherwise. Actually swain is a pretty big bully if you can land nevermore. QWE is like 3 trillion damage if you land them in the most optimal order | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2011 07:43 Phrost wrote: Actually swain is a pretty big bully if you can land nevermore. QWE is like 3 trillion damage if you land them in the most optimal order Then maybe I'm getting unlucky facing lanes that start boots first, and am totally awful at landing Nevermore on targets with boots. Q slow would help, except Q has 550 range, and plenty of people can kite you from longer range than that. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
"Ok if we're gonna win this game its gonna be up to me, I have to carry really fucking hard." and then you actually do it? Real. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
It was completely and utterly frustrating. His lane presence and sustainability are huge - he lands one Q and the pain train cometh. I hate that bastard. Prolly buying him soon. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
But do I deserve to be 1000? God no! 1500? Even less so. But the biggest problem is that ranked games are more about adjusting to trolls, feeders who think they have nothing to lose, and butthurt nerds rather than trying to play a proper game. So in the end, the ranked system is pretty shitty. It prevents serious, competitive players from practicing and allows trolls and feeders to sometime ride on other people's coat tail. EDIT - Lucky 7 post. I am expecting something good out of this. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 10 2011 07:09 TheYango wrote: Maybe it's because I'm awful with Swain, but my impression would be that it's because Swain get's totally bullied around before 6 otherwise. What? Never, if you start with Doran Shield you can Q harrass every time it's up and get a few autoattacks off as well, and after lvl 2 you E Q with the same harrass and with ignite that kills from 70% hp. Swainn denies Vlad from lvl 2. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On March 10 2011 09:08 Frolossus wrote: is it better to max shiv or deceive first on shaco? Jib | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
The key is being patient and have a thick skin and you'll eventually get the elo you deserve. The trolls vs normal ppl-ratio will level itself out the longer u keep at it :> I don't know if HoN had any solution to their ranked system? | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On March 10 2011 09:33 Shiragaku wrote: Haha, so this is ICCUP again. But rather than a skill exam, it seems to be a mental endurance. Mental endurance is probably the main skillset towards becoming a succesful LoL player, how funny as that may sound. | ||
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