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On March 10 2011 03:44 Navi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 03:33 BlackPaladin wrote:Well my average IP rewards are up but like all of my recent games are TL B members + a few others screwing around, half the time buying all gold/5 items on lategame teams and waiting for like 50 mins where we each 1 shot squishies. Or just trolling each other and making the game last longer as a result.  Mainly though if you're actually playing serious and tryhard, the IP awards are down because most of the time the games will end 20-25 mins in that case. The new IP system basically punishes people who know how to play the game and who can end it fast, and rewards people who don't know how to do that. nah its just cuz u miss 3 tosses in a row on a target going in a line kk
Ali punted him away once, poppy smashed him away once, and poppy killed him once right when the animation started!!
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Everytime I see a poppy in ranked I always pick alistar because alistar/poppy is like guaranteed rape in any duo lane and since poppy will usually get every killing blow with her Q u get like 10/0 0/0/10 lanes and poppy just cares ridiculously hard.
I had poppy garen work as well actually.
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On March 10 2011 04:07 Slayer91 wrote: Everytime I see a poppy in ranked I always pick alistar because alistar/poppy is like guaranteed rape in any duo lane and since poppy will usually get every killing blow with her Q u get like 10/0 0/0/10 lanes and poppy just carries ridiculously hard.
I had poppy garen work as well actually.
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On March 10 2011 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 01:54 Fawkes wrote: Is playing ranked just a test of patience? I peaked at 1450 before getting in a streak of bad games and dropped to 1290, I have now climbed back up to ~1360 but I can't just get higher.
I totally don't think this is my fault, when I duo queue, we get severely challenged teammates who don't talk in draft and and pick our 2nd/3rd/4th AD carry, or make dumb bans and the other team ends up getting a Shen and then they proceed to get farmed all game.
Now when I solo queue, my last pick always says he'll play whatever, then pick a non jungling Olaf when we don't have one. Or I get trolls that take smite on a jungle worthy champ, don't talk in draft and change summoners right before game starts. All my games involve no jungle (unless I do it), pushed lanes that get ganked 5 times before 15 minute mark and no one else buying wards. I tried playing Morde every game! It doesn't work even if I get farmed because the other two lanes are feeding >.<' You need to remove your bad games, identify when you're playing bad and why and stop. Even things like lack of sleep or not eating for a while before playing can affect you badly. sometime you get games ur teammates are just bad, but you will play badly sometimes and not win games you could have.
That's the frustrating part. Depending on who I play and what role I am in, my lane seems to be the only lane that is winning. I have a decent game sense and map awareness even without my teammate's warnings but the lane I am not in seems to get dominated. The people I get matched with don't seem to have these qualities and it just snowballs the game out of control.
What rating do I stop getting matched with these people? At least 3 out of 4 games I play, there's someone on my team "trolling" >.< Also teach me how to morde 1v5!
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id say around 1600 u stop getting total retards and feeders just are ppl having a bad day. After around 1400 ppl know what to do but can play really badly sometimes just cause of the situation or strange things like not being able to gank 2v1 sometimes because they have shen and panth.
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On March 10 2011 04:12 Fawkes wrote: What rating do I stop getting matched with these people? At least 3 out of 4 games I play, there's someone on my team "trolling" >.< Also teach me how to morde 1v5! 2500. In other words: Never. And I absolutely mean it.
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You have to discount the odd kid totally raging because he couldn't pick a hero because the client was lagging or something.
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On March 10 2011 04:01 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 03:44 Navi wrote:On March 10 2011 03:33 BlackPaladin wrote:Well my average IP rewards are up but like all of my recent games are TL B members + a few others screwing around, half the time buying all gold/5 items on lategame teams and waiting for like 50 mins where we each 1 shot squishies. Or just trolling each other and making the game last longer as a result.  Mainly though if you're actually playing serious and tryhard, the IP awards are down because most of the time the games will end 20-25 mins in that case. The new IP system basically punishes people who know how to play the game and who can end it fast, and rewards people who don't know how to do that. nah its just cuz u miss 3 tosses in a row on a target going in a line kk Ali punted him away once, poppy smashed him away once, and poppy killed him once right when the animation started!! 
You were trying to ks me imoimoimo jkjk
Also I'll be the poppy for your alistairs anytime.
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On March 10 2011 04:29 Lanzoma wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 04:01 BlackPaladin wrote:On March 10 2011 03:44 Navi wrote:On March 10 2011 03:33 BlackPaladin wrote:Well my average IP rewards are up but like all of my recent games are TL B members + a few others screwing around, half the time buying all gold/5 items on lategame teams and waiting for like 50 mins where we each 1 shot squishies. Or just trolling each other and making the game last longer as a result.  Mainly though if you're actually playing serious and tryhard, the IP awards are down because most of the time the games will end 20-25 mins in that case. The new IP system basically punishes people who know how to play the game and who can end it fast, and rewards people who don't know how to do that. nah its just cuz u miss 3 tosses in a row on a target going in a line kk Ali punted him away once, poppy smashed him away once, and poppy killed him once right when the animation started!!  You were trying to ks me imoimoimo jkjk Also I'll be the poppy for your alistairs anytime.
aww, thats so cute
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Well hey, at least my duo lane sion is 10 million times better than my amumu. As is my leet lux lazoring stealing our own blue from Yango as swain.
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Team bonding is strictly forbidden!
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On March 10 2011 04:07 Slayer91 wrote: Everytime I see a poppy in ranked I always pick alistar because alistar/poppy is like guaranteed rape in any duo lane and since poppy will usually get every killing blow with her Q u get like 10/0 0/0/10 lanes and poppy just cares ridiculously hard.
I had poppy garen work as well actually.
Alistar chogath is my new favorite powerhouse bot lane.
They're so beefy they can force an early kill or zoning. And if/when alistar goes roaming cho can easily 2v1 the lane because he can demolish creep waves that get too close to the tower.
Nothing is more satisfying than pulverize followed by a headbutt into rupture.
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It's funny how much bot lane has changed since the ESL qualifiers match when CLG rolled TSM. They weren't even going full roam alistar but the double aoe cc was so brutal and coupled with only one gank they managed to roll the previous powerhouse of Janna/Taric.
That and as phrost said both of them scale quite nicely with each item they get. None of them require much gold to be effective in fights but every bit of tankiness allows them to stay in the fight and be annoying for much longer.
Cho has been also used as a backup roamer in a few games I've seen, since he does need farm but when Alistar has to farm to get his lv6 Cho can roam and gank just as well.
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anyone have good roaming poppy replays/vods? I fed twice last night trying roaming with philo stone into triforce... whenever I went in for a gank, I got absolutely zero help from teammates (like literally four times in a row in my first game I ganked top and should have at least burnt both summoners and the laner literally didn't move, another time mid had an ignite they just randomly didn't use costing us the kill), so I ended up way too far behind.
On the other hand that's a really really easy excuse
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things that are op this patch that people havent really caught on to yet cata->deathcap->hourglass swain 9/21/0 2~3 hog->banshee/sunfire->atmas jarvan 0/21/9 boots->sheen->mobil alistar 9/0/21 the top 3 op things that arent banned 24/7 i highly recommened every to try all 3 atleast once
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On March 10 2011 06:02 UniversalSnip wrote: anyone have good roaming poppy replays/vods? I fed twice last night trying roaming with philo stone into triforce... whenever I went in for a gank, I got absolutely zero help from teammates (like literally four times in a row in my first game I ganked top and should have at least burnt both summoners and the laner literally didn't move, another time mid had an ignite they just randomly didn't use costing us the kill), so I ended up way too far behind.
On the other hand that's a really really easy excuse Lol a while ago I just played a similiar game, their lvl 5 Tryndamere was hiding at top lanes top brush with 25% hp and my team's tristana was just lasthitting minions next to him, then when I check the brush he spins away... -_- I really wonder if these people are AFK or something.
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On March 10 2011 05:59 r33k wrote: It's funny how much bot lane has changed since the ESL qualifiers match when CLG rolled TSM. They weren't even going full roam alistar but the double aoe cc was so brutal and coupled with only one gank they managed to roll the previous powerhouse of Janna/Taric.
That and as phrost said both of them scale quite nicely with each item they get. None of them require much gold to be effective in fights but every bit of tankiness allows them to stay in the fight and be annoying for much longer.
Cho has been also used as a backup roamer in a few games I've seen, since he does need farm but when Alistar has to farm to get his lv6 Cho can roam and gank just as well.
Imho, taric janna is an awful bottom lane. Double support is kinda bad because you dont really need to have either player get really farmed (unless one is zilean, but he gets more farmed on assists than minions usually)
Bot lanes should be support/tank or support/carry for best results
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On March 10 2011 06:23 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 05:59 r33k wrote: It's funny how much bot lane has changed since the ESL qualifiers match when CLG rolled TSM. They weren't even going full roam alistar but the double aoe cc was so brutal and coupled with only one gank they managed to roll the previous powerhouse of Janna/Taric.
That and as phrost said both of them scale quite nicely with each item they get. None of them require much gold to be effective in fights but every bit of tankiness allows them to stay in the fight and be annoying for much longer.
Cho has been also used as a backup roamer in a few games I've seen, since he does need farm but when Alistar has to farm to get his lv6 Cho can roam and gank just as well. Imho, taric janna is an awful bottom lane. Double support is kinda bad because you dont really need to have either player get really farmed (unless one is zilean, but he gets more farmed on assists than minions usually) Bot lanes should be support/tank or support/carry for best results
Janna and Taric however would together be utterly impossible to harass.
The Taric stun would guarentee Tornado hits and with heals, armor buffs and shields they could do whatever the hell they wanted.
It would be a very powerfull combo, certainly not horrible.
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Taric/Janna used to be the top US bot combo because they would always pull the lane, are virtually immortal and if their jungler is Olaf each gank will automatically give a kill. I need to see more US vs EU style games to decide whether I like carries bot or not. My gut feeling is to hate them, but I really need to see some games with the 2 styles clashing.
@loco: alistar FOTM. Tank Jarman will be hard for the noobs to catch up because he feels like post-release Xin, and swain is really boring to play zzz
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On March 10 2011 06:17 locodoco wrote: things that are op this patch that people havent really caught on to yet cata->deathcap->hourglass swain 9/21/0 2~3 hog->banshee/sunfire->atmas jarvan 0/21/9 boots->sheen->mobil alistar 9/0/21 the top 3 op things that arent banned 24/7 i highly recommened every to try all 3 atleast once I agree with the item build on swain, but why 9-21? It isnt like you need survivability all that much since you are unkillable in lane at 6, and the cdr is awesome.
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