On March 10 2011 06:43 Two_DoWn wrote: I agree with the item build on swain, but why 9-21? It isnt like you need survivability all that much since you are unkillable in lane at 6, and the cdr is awesome.
Maybe it's because I'm awful with Swain, but my impression would be that it's because Swain get's totally bullied around before 6 otherwise.
What? Never, if you start with Doran Shield you can Q harrass every time it's up and get a few autoattacks off as well, and after lvl 2 you E Q with the same harrass and with ignite that kills from 70% hp. Swainn denies Vlad from lvl 2.
If it's a matchup where you won't be landing good Qs max W>E>Q. Swain denies Vlad from lv 1 - E then autoattack a few times. E amplifies attack damage, so you win hand to hand, and transfusion has an embarrassingly long cooldown at early levels. Swain also beats Morde in my experience, though I think a good morde might win, as long as you E and attack him a lot early. I think Swain loses to Garen, though I still don't have enough practice vs him. The other common top solos I haven't played enough to get a feel for.
Will be trying the HoG stack -> Sunfire -> Atmas Jarvan, though. I don't think Wrigg -> Triforce gives him quite what I'm looking for. Mostly worried about his jungling speed with this build, but I guess it's all right after sunfire.
On March 10 2011 09:39 Shikyo wrote: Will be trying the HoG stack -> Sunfire -> Atmas Jarvan, though. I don't think Wrigg -> Triforce gives him quite what I'm looking for. Mostly worried about his jungling speed with this build, but I guess it's all right after sunfire.
Pendragon Since some people seem to be confused about the bans that we've done - I'm going to take a little bit of time to provide additional details on a few of them.
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Also, after reading Doubelift's IAMA thread on reddit I just think of him as a complete tard now. His opinions on dota/hon as a dota player are just completely retarded.
Pendragon Since some people seem to be confused about the bans that we've done - I'm going to take a little bit of time to provide additional details on a few of them.
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Also, after reading Doubelift's IAMA thread on reddit I just think of him as a complete tard now. His opinions on dota/hon as a dota player are just completely retarded.
God I hope that Hammer 1 guy in the thread gets an IP ban or something, hes so pissed his troll acc got banned that he will make a smurf and continue his feeding spree.
I wonder of theres an option to play ai vs bots offline, or if u konami code in, to play 1v5 vs bots. Probably the only time id play it, aside from testing it out when its released.
I'm halfway through and apparently riot is .. losing to bots LOL
On March 10 2011 09:44 Phrost wrote: E first, shit on them with e+ auto attacks
So how does this apply to people who don't need to be within 480 range of you to do things?
Like, I understand that Swain can fight melee lanes just fine, but how do you not just get kited vs something like Boots-first Ashe?
Okay so I played against a doran's shield first ashe (wut) and as long as you don't get the insta-crit shot in the beginning it's all downhill for ashe from there. I actually got insta-crit for 109 and chased down to like 45 hp at level 1 and still managed to get the first kill at 7 and had more cs.
Really you just need to hang back until QE is off cd and push her back by threatening it. After lvl 3 its really really inefficient for her to trade an auto for QE and even worse if she sits there and tries to tank you because your auto attacks do 8/11/14/17/20% more damage, essentially making up for any armor penetration you don't have.
I spend the rest of my time very losely last hitting to regen some mana. Most often you can force her to push with volley and zone because you can threaten an insta-kill with QEW and ignite.
So I just saw on the LoL site that they will be having LoL at WCG 2011. I wonder how "pleased" the HoN community is about this (especially considering how "superior" HoN is to LoL, instead of just being different).
EPT
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