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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On December 31 2010 04:57 oberon wrote: Morde in duo is awful because he likes to push and steal all the creeps. Vlad is actually highly effective in a duo, however. Definitely not highly effective. He won't feed, but he needs a solo lane. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 31 2010 04:57 oberon wrote: Morde in duo is awful because he likes to push and steal all the creeps. Vlad is actually highly effective in a duo, however. Vlad has no real lane control until he can level Q to the point where its both spammy and deadly. Putting him in a duo delays that, although after the solo lane XP change, the difference is smaller. | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On December 31 2010 02:58 0123456789 wrote: Like I know I need to rotate towards bot, but I'd rather just last hit minions. The pull to last hit minions is too strong. "Hm...I know if I go in range to last hit that minion, I'll take a bunch of damage from the opposing hero. BUT I MUST DO IT ANYWAY" | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 31 2010 05:13 Jaksiel wrote: The pull to last hit minions is too strong. "Hm...I know if I go in range to last hit that minion, I'll take a bunch of damage from the opposing hero. BUT I MUST DO IT ANYWAY" Need dat gold | ||
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
On December 31 2010 04:13 spinesheath wrote: These are all typical solo laners... Gragas and Sion can go to a duo lane, but ideally they go to a solo. Vlad and Morde in duo lanes is usually just awful. In other words: What? Vlad is a good Duo Laner, really good harass. and i dont mind being Morde Duo that much if u have to, cause i still like him late game despite the lesser farm. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On December 31 2010 04:40 Misder wrote: Why do people not play fiddles anymore? Fiddle is so insanely squishy and the skills you would use to escape are all going to be on cooldown because you want to initiate and use them throughout the fight. This is unlike, say, ryze who really doesn't need to use his rune prison -all the time- because the other team has committed. Or another example is kog'maw. He doesn't have to use his slow puddle -all the time- to be effective in a fight and can save it for escaping. Fiddle is useless without using fear/silence whenever they are off cooldown. Add to this his ult is the biggest "KICK ME" sign in the game. | ||
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Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On December 31 2010 05:34 ghen wrote: Fiddle is so insanely squishy and the skills you would use to escape are all going to be on cooldown because you want to initiate and use them throughout the fight. This is unlike, say, ryze who really doesn't need to use his rune prison -all the time- because the other team has committed. Or another example is kog'maw. He doesn't have to use his slow puddle -all the time- to be effective in a fight and can save it for escaping. Fiddle is useless without using fear/silence whenever they are off cooldown. Add to this his ult is the biggest "KICK ME" sign in the game. right after Kat's ult :< | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
EDIT: I'm probably being overly harsh, maybe Fiddle's playstyle just rubs me the wrong way. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Good fiddles can carry teams, bad ones flop easily. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
I'm pretty sure the big windup, giant audio cue, and huge red circles beats out a spinning character animation. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On December 31 2010 06:23 ghen wrote: I'm pretty sure the big windup, giant audio cue, and huge red circles beats out a spinning character animation. Yeah, but you can usually fear the one person on their team who has a brain and reads the "KICK ME" sign. If they have more than person who can read, you are out of luck though. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On December 31 2010 06:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Locodoco figured out a before 3 minute dragon with fiddlesticks from both sides without blue elixir, it's actually pretty legit. You'd really have to take that risk to make fiddle anywhere near worth it while jungling. He just gets crushed so hard by like every other jungler early on lol | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 31 2010 05:47 TheYango wrote: The thing that bothers me most about Fiddle is that his damage is so front-loaded into his Ultimate. No team with half a brain is going to let you Drain for meaningful damage in a team-fight, and Dark Wind is just so unreliable for pushing damage onto someone (oh, look, it never bounced back to your first target and hit a bunch of creeps instead, so you did like 100 damage). So then you're left in this spot where itemizing for spell damage makes your ult stay relevant but doesn't *really* help any of your other abilities. EDIT: I'm probably being overly harsh, maybe Fiddle's playstyle just rubs me the wrong way. that's a really good analysis | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
The idea would be to max Dark Wind and of course your ult. Then ult into a fight, activate Randuins and Dark Wind and CAWCAWCAWCAWCAW. Dark Wind protects you from some of the magic damage, Randuin's provides great protection against autoattacks, and your enemies can't really run thanks to the slow. Void Staff because of the terrible AP scaling (1000 AP for double damage lololol). | ||
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