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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Kennen (me, 4th game on him or something like that), Trist, Taric, Nidalee, Warwic vs Warwick, Ashe, Janna, Mundo, Nasus It was a normal solo Q, so we didn't have the necessary ignites against Mundo (and so I only killed him once in lane). In the end, Nasus and especially Mundo, now at 200+ cs thanks to a full duration of 3 downed inhibs of farm, were just walking up to my team and wrecking them. Trist didn't do anything at all at this point (even with IE/LW/Starks), and when I tried to go in and stun people Janna blew me away. She sure is a counter to Kennen. I guess we really should have had an ignite (or at least someone should have bought Exec, lol), then we might have been able to finish it right when we got those inhibs for the first time. Our team just wasn't made for dealing with a farmed Mundo/Nasus. Lately I have been losing a lot of games that looked like certain victories... Losing after being 15 kills, 5 towers and 3 dragons ahead... and now this. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On December 30 2010 08:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I mean, not to be racist about it or anything, but straight-up, no Koreans play on EU. i feel like that might be more to do with lat issues (which are already present on us, but i'd imagine are worse for korea->eu?). pure speculation on my part tho. eu certainly thinks about the "metagame" (sue me) differently, different champ combos are more popular there than here. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Khelz
106 Posts
My ult just doesn't work. It's not on CD, it just doesn't go off. I even tried clicking the icon and nothing happens  Anyone ever had this problem? (I eventually got it to work after basing and running around for a bit) | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
I STILL CANT PLAY EVE D: I think i'm doing something wrong, cuz I never get kills O_O so in the end I just followed the panth around and stunned whoever he's trying to kill so I won't look i'm feeding | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 30 2010 08:59 HazMat wrote: EU doesn't run solomid Nunu so obviously they're too behind to be considered a matchup for NA. On that note I was playing Annie/Shen top lane vs Nunu + jungler (normal game, solo queue) and I could not for the life of me kill him, or at least deny him enough kills to justify anything. Right now in normal's im normally carrying pretty hard with like 0 deaths unless i disconnect, should I have gotten shen to go jungle or something? Maybe its a moot point since in ranked you'd either get 2 super strong top laners or get a jungler I suppose. I had annie shen vs rammus and he had like 1/4 of our combined CS and it worked fine. Maybe I should gank the jungler? o.o I'm fine 1v1 with tanks because there's no pressure to do anything, so you can just farm and kill if he overextends. (although nunu is a pain in the ass with his ice thing, prefer chogath or other tanks). I'm normally giving mid to some other common mid player, just find it more fun in duo lanes in general, and usually they automatically go mid so I only take mid if i'm the obvious mid player. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
As for the whole eve can jungle thing: So can twitch. The reason it's not "optimal" is because he's a carry who should farm in a solo lane. Anyone can jungle though so that's not a real viable option. Like even if eve did lane she could be in the bush, cloaked, or across the map without you knowing because of her stealth. You really just need to play safer to counter her. The vision ward isn't required, it's just something that can help. Idk, personally I've never had trouble with eve before. The only time I do is when my teammates have fed her where there entire team now outlevels and out-killed us because of it. Last night I told top lane "care top, eve will prob gank soon, get back." Well heimer didn't get back and so died to an eve gank about 20 seconds later. It's stupid things like that which get eve fed, and make her seem op. 300 gold and the extra experience early game means a LOT and that can snowball into a huge advantage. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
Dust: + Show Spoiler + Miscellaneous * Dust of Appearance has 2 Charges. * Does not stack in the inventory. Item Abilities Ability Type : Active Instant Casting Time: None Duration: 12 seconds Mana Cost: N/A Area of Effect 1250 Base Ability: Dust of Appearance Cooldown: N/A CastingRange:N/A Allowed Targets : Enemy units Effects: Reveals invisible units around bearer. Lothar's: + Show Spoiler + Gives: 38 Damage 10 Attack Speed Active: Wind Walk Makes you invisible until the duration ends, or until you attack or use an ability. Adds 20% movement speed. Can move through units. 0.3 second fade time. Attacking to break the invisibility will cause you to deal 125 bonus physical damage on your attack. Lasts 9 seconds. 75 manacost. 18 seconds cooldown. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On December 30 2010 10:45 BlackPaladin wrote: Doesn't EU rely more on a poking/picking off stragglers metagame, while US players rely more on teamfight combos? As for the whole eve can jungle thing: So can twitch. The reason it's not "optimal" is because he's a carry who should farm in a solo lane. Anyone can jungle though so that's not a real viable option. Like even if eve did lane she could be in the bush, cloaked, or across the map without you knowing because of her stealth. You really just need to play safer to counter her. The vision ward isn't required, it's just something that can help. Idk, personally I've never had trouble with eve before. The only time I do is when my teammates have fed her where there entire team now outlevels and out-killed us because of it. Last night I told top lane "care top, eve will prob gank soon, get back." Well heimer didn't get back and so died to an eve gank about 20 seconds later. It's stupid things like that which get eve fed, and make her seem op. 300 gold and the extra experience early game means a LOT and that can snowball into a huge advantage. Their "metagame" relies on "picking off stragglers" because they're "bad at positioning". lol jk im just talking shit now | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Fatmatt2000
United States159 Posts
On December 30 2010 12:31 Aegeis wrote: I didn't really know where to post this but I am very close to 6.3k IP and may someone write a Vlad Guide. Rylais->Zhonyas Max Q first get 1 lvl in pool till everything else is maxed. Troll everyone. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 30 2010 11:51 seppolevne wrote: What if they introduced dust and Lothar's? Or at least an instant reveal and a 'cloak on cast' item? Or a cloak summoner spell? Move 1 cloak boots? It would at least make it part of the game instead of just a novelty. Dust: + Show Spoiler + Miscellaneous * Dust of Appearance has 2 Charges. * Does not stack in the inventory. Item Abilities Ability Type : Active Instant Casting Time: None Duration: 12 seconds Mana Cost: N/A Area of Effect 1250 Base Ability: Dust of Appearance Cooldown: N/A CastingRange:N/A Allowed Targets : Enemy units Effects: Reveals invisible units around bearer. Lothar's: + Show Spoiler + Gives: 38 Damage 10 Attack Speed Active: Wind Walk Makes you invisible until the duration ends, or until you attack or use an ability. Adds 20% movement speed. Can move through units. 0.3 second fade time. Attacking to break the invisibility will cause you to deal 125 bonus physical damage on your attack. Lasts 9 seconds. 75 manacost. 18 seconds cooldown. Honestly, I think they could keep invisibility as is if they provided something like dust, especially if wards are going to be 1hp. It's annoying to know someone is stealthed near you but not be able to do anything about it besides having Oracles, which is a huge investment. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 30 2010 12:57 dnastyx wrote: Honestly, I think they could keep invisibility as is if they provided something like dust, especially if wards are going to be 1hp. It's annoying to know someone is stealthed near you but not be able to do anything about it besides having Oracles, which is a huge investment. I think this game could afford to have a ton of things to be more like dota tbh (eg move the summoners to items, add out there items like lothars, dota mapstyle which is a lot better than SR, etc). The game is different enough that there's no need to avoid things just for the sake of being different. I'm not a huge dota fan, it's just the lack of things dota did perfectly sometimes puzzles me. | ||
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