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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#22581
That SK vs Millenium game was dumb. Never saw the fight. All I ever saw was Irelia charging in, Amumu ulting, and then 4 seconds of darkness. Once darkness ended, fight was over. Everyone dead.
God Bless
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 23 2011 20:14 GMT
#22582
On July 24 2011 05:01 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 03:56 Nikon wrote:
Just a quick question, Poppy's Q is still 100% magic damage, right?

"Poppy crushes her opponent, dealing attack damage (+60% of ability power) plus 20 / 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 and 8% of her target's maximum health in bonus damage. The bonus damage dealt cannot exceed 75 / 150 / 225 / 300 / 375."

The tooltip looks like it's a 100% attack damage, and 0.6 of your ability power is converted to attack damage.

Still, Poppy's Q hurts a lot when she has Trinity Force. Ow.


No, I meant to ask if the skill converts all the damage it deals to magic or if it's split between physical and magic or something...
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 23 2011 20:21 GMT
#22583
On July 24 2011 04:57 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.


slow is a fine support ability
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 20:31 GMT
#22584
On July 24 2011 05:21 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.


slow is a fine support ability

You don't call Gangplank a support, nor do you call trundle a support. Slow is pretty standard for thise that doesn't have a charge.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 20:37:38
July 23 2011 20:35 GMT
#22585
On July 24 2011 04:57 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.


I'm not sure what you need to be considered support... but from what I seen:

- a pretty good slow with respectable range
- a pretty good haste for helping initation
- the heal is probably going to suck donkey but it's still better than nothing
- a passive that helps boost allies' damage
- god bubble

Taken altogether, if this isn't supporting I don't know what you could call this.

I have to rephrase what I mean though. She doesn't necessarily have to be built as a pure support, but what I mean is that her kit is redesigned to better much better help her allies, while severely gimping her own potential. You might still want to build her for DPSing, or maybe you can throw a frozen mallet on her to help her keep a target in place while shredding someone's armor.

Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 20:38 GMT
#22586
I love how easy it is to get off and on your high horse. Whenever people from the US whined about Koreans I would think "Oh so silly, 1 korean doesn't make a whole playerbase". I've now played about 15 games with Koreans in them and if I met a Korean today I would probably punch him in the face and say that I hoped the north would invade. \o/
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 20:40 GMT
#22587
On July 24 2011 05:35 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.


I'm not sure what you need to be considered support... but from what I seen:

- a pretty good slow with respectable range
- a pretty good haste for helping initation
- the heal is probably going to suck donkey but it's still better than nothing
- a passive that helps boost allies' damage
- god bubble

Taken altogether, if this isn't supporting I don't know what you could call this.

I have to rephrase what I mean though. She doesn't necessarily have to be built as a pure support, but what I mean is that her kit is redesigned to better much better help her allies, while severely gimping her own potential. You might still want to build her for DPSing, or maybe you can throw a frozen mallet on her to help her keep a target in place while shredding someone's armor.

Was talking about the Original Kayle, sorry to not be clear about that.
She was Hybrid DPS, why the fuck would people that played Kayle pick a hybrid dps if they wanted a support that lets face it, won't be as good as the other supports in this game.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 20:54:30
July 23 2011 20:47 GMT
#22588
Every game I play with Euros, OMFG! They all crowd me when I play in the morning with their high 100's pings and then saying shit like EURO PRIDE! Then they troll me and my near perfect play. I swear if I met a European person today, I would punch them in the face and say I wish you got Chongshen EVERY GAME! AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you won't want to know the rest of what I say.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 23 2011 20:59 GMT
#22589
On July 24 2011 05:38 Hynda wrote:
I love how easy it is to get off and on your high horse. Whenever people from the US whined about Koreans I would think "Oh so silly, 1 korean doesn't make a whole playerbase". I've now played about 15 games with Koreans in them and if I met a Korean today I would probably punch him in the face and say that I hoped the north would invade. \o/

What do the Koreans do to make you pissed? Do they troll like Caller?
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 21:00:18
July 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#22590
Been playing ranked for about 20 games straight now, the first 15 at korean hours, the last 5 during american hours.

Oh god, give me koreans any day of the week.

vman7 and takashiX and damn near every other american all have such humongous ego problems.

At least the koreans are quiet.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#22591
Chaox is starting his streaming session, currently explaining Akali.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 23 2011 21:03 GMT
#22592
On July 24 2011 06:00 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Been playing ranked for about 20 games straight now, the first 15 at korean hours, the last 5 during american hours.

Oh god, give me koreans any day of the week.

vman7 and takashiX and damn near every other american all have such humongous ego problems.

At least the koreans are quiet.

Yeah...vman7 kind of scares me. He once fed 0-4 the enemy and blamed his lane partner who was locodoco and went so far to start using racial slurs and so many unnecessary insults.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 23 2011 21:36 GMT
#22593
I just find the current balance really infuriating and boring in solo q.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 21:37 GMT
#22594
On July 24 2011 05:59 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:38 Hynda wrote:
I love how easy it is to get off and on your high horse. Whenever people from the US whined about Koreans I would think "Oh so silly, 1 korean doesn't make a whole playerbase". I've now played about 15 games with Koreans in them and if I met a Korean today I would probably punch him in the face and say that I hoped the north would invade. \o/

What do the Koreans do to make you pissed? Do they troll like Caller?

They are so aggresive. Poppy at 1/20th hp? Towerdive like a boss.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 23 2011 21:37 GMT
#22595
On July 24 2011 05:40 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:35 Juicyfruit wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:57 Hynda wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.


I'm not sure what you need to be considered support... but from what I seen:

- a pretty good slow with respectable range
- a pretty good haste for helping initation
- the heal is probably going to suck donkey but it's still better than nothing
- a passive that helps boost allies' damage
- god bubble

Taken altogether, if this isn't supporting I don't know what you could call this.

I have to rephrase what I mean though. She doesn't necessarily have to be built as a pure support, but what I mean is that her kit is redesigned to better much better help her allies, while severely gimping her own potential. You might still want to build her for DPSing, or maybe you can throw a frozen mallet on her to help her keep a target in place while shredding someone's armor.

Was talking about the Original Kayle, sorry to not be clear about that.
She was Hybrid DPS, why the fuck would people that played Kayle pick a hybrid dps if they wanted a support that lets face it, won't be as good as the other supports in this game.
Well, kayle's listed as support... and kayle's only 450 so it's not a huge loss for the people who bought her anyway.

Ezreal nerf was much bigger.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2011 21:39 GMT
#22596
On July 24 2011 06:36 Southlight wrote:
I just find the current balance really infuriating and boring in solo q.


Play AP carries again. Problem solved.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 21:40 GMT
#22597
On July 24 2011 05:47 0123456789 wrote:
Every game I play with Euros, OMFG! They all crowd me when I play in the morning with their high 100's pings and then saying shit like EURO PRIDE! Then they troll me and my near perfect play. I swear if I met a European person today, I would punch them in the face and say I wish you got Chongshen EVERY GAME! AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you won't want to know the rest of what I say.

Eurofags never do anything wrong. Promise.
I just love the fact that I pretty much....
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 21:42:03
July 23 2011 21:41 GMT
#22598
On July 24 2011 06:36 Southlight wrote:
I just find the current balance really infuriating and boring in solo q.


Amen. This current generation of OP tanky dps (yorick, udyr, gangplank, akali)+fiddle, annie, tf is one of the worst in quite a while supplemented by there being about 8 characters that are head and shoulders over the other 70 which makes 4 characters appear almost every single game making for a bland experience.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#22599
On July 24 2011 06:00 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Been playing ranked for about 20 games straight now, the first 15 at korean hours, the last 5 during american hours.

Oh god, give me koreans any day of the week.

vman7 and takashiX and damn near every other american all have such humongous ego problems.

At least the koreans are quiet.

SEE. People didn't believe me when I said Takashi is a huge asshole who is also terrible at Corki (how is that even possible)
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2011 21:46 GMT
#22600
On July 24 2011 06:42 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 06:00 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Been playing ranked for about 20 games straight now, the first 15 at korean hours, the last 5 during american hours.

Oh god, give me koreans any day of the week.

vman7 and takashiX and damn near every other american all have such humongous ego problems.

At least the koreans are quiet.

SEE. People didn't believe me when I said Takashi is a huge asshole who is also terrible at Corki (how is that even possible)


Probably cause it's a pot kettle black statement. huehuehue.

I don't think there's much talk about Takashi cause he only came back to LoL in the past month or so. He was AWOL for a good 4-6 months. But he acted like an entitled jerk back then, still kinda douchebag like now.
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