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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#22561
It sounds strange for me that West is getting better comments overall. The nordic/eastern region allways had the better gamers and teams historically. Mb it is different in LoL but it was certainly the case in DotA and is still the case in SC2 and if I'am not mistaken theres also other gaming fields where they are dominating.

Since all my friends and teammates play on West I'am happy with the current state. But I wouldn't be surpised if the nordic/eastern region develops better in the long run.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 23 2011 16:50 GMT
#22562
On July 24 2011 01:07 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:11 Hynda wrote:
On July 23 2011 23:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Phreak, translated, imoimo:

"We are going to take a perfectly fine champ that wasn't played often to her full potential and completely change her in the opposite direction from what we constantly said here at Riot Games for the past months. We, firstly, will nerf her passive and nerf her main nuke. We'll make her heal heal even less but it gives more speed boost to make it more "clutch," herpityderpityyyy, while making her e slightly better and keeping her ult the same. Now we can say she's now gotten a buff after we have officially nerfed her earlygame, midgame, and lategame, while I build her like kogmaw with less range and kill stuff while I'm fed in my horribly made spotlights.

We here at Riot games believe in making champs unique and different so they will have a nice feel to them. That's why we're changing this champ that had that into something that is more cookie cutter. We hope that this will cause people to not think we are morons. huehuehue *insert troll face gif*"

#1
(Sorry, the whole kayle remake is just pissing me off. She was my first ever played champ and my first main, so it's personal seeing them ruining that hybrid part that made her unique very unique and interesting to me >;/)

I feel you, I have like 200 games played with Kayle, she was my first buy and my first love. I really don't get why they would take a champ that nobody is playing and just straight down nerf her.


it's the same thing that they did to jax and xin... people at low elo play those kind of late-game monsters and just beast with them. riot has to balance for all levels of play unfortunately

I can turn anyone into a late game beast in low elo. Nerf every champ IMO.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#22563
On July 24 2011 01:23 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 23:56 BluzMan wrote:
Fuck this shit, EU is completely unplayable after the split. You're getting retarded people on both sides and games are decided by random numbers.


I'm playing on West and everything seems fine for the most part


East here.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
July 23 2011 17:45 GMT
#22564
On July 23 2011 23:48 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 22:54 TL Blazeraid wrote:
The top upvoted comment right now is "They should "rework" Katarina and add her mana and double her cooldowns."

Jesus christ, youtube elo must be terrrrrible.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this person was being sarcastic.

Regarding her new passive, I think you can't judge without knowing the numbers. A % armor/MR shred that helps out your whole team could actually be really powerful. Maybe, for example, you could play Kayle sort of like Taric - play bottom lane support, build really tanky and use your passive to help your team kill people.


More like stack the shit out of AP and burst people down at level 2.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
July 23 2011 17:51 GMT
#22565
On July 24 2011 02:45 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 23:48 arnath wrote:
On July 23 2011 22:54 TL Blazeraid wrote:
The top upvoted comment right now is "They should "rework" Katarina and add her mana and double her cooldowns."

Jesus christ, youtube elo must be terrrrrible.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this person was being sarcastic.

Regarding her new passive, I think you can't judge without knowing the numbers. A % armor/MR shred that helps out your whole team could actually be really powerful. Maybe, for example, you could play Kayle sort of like Taric - play bottom lane support, build really tanky and use your passive to help your team kill people.


More like stack the shit out of AP and burst people down at level 2.


Yea, all you need to do was stack 3 drings and then Q>E> right click
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#22566
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
July 23 2011 18:29 GMT
#22567
On July 24 2011 01:36 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 23:56 BluzMan wrote:
Fuck this shit, EU is completely unplayable after the split. You're getting retarded people on both sides and games are decided by random numbers.


West or bust.


i miss you teutonica
And all is illuminated.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 18:53:01
July 23 2011 18:50 GMT
#22568
On July 23 2011 23:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Phreak, translated, imoimo:

"We are going to take a perfectly fine champ that wasn't played often to her full potential and completely change her in the opposite direction from what we constantly said here at Riot Games for the past months. We, firstly, will nerf her passive and nerf her main nuke. We'll make her heal heal even less but it gives more speed boost to make it more "clutch," herpityderpityyyy, while making her e slightly better and keeping her ult the same. Now we can say she's now gotten a buff after we have officially nerfed her earlygame, midgame, and lategame, while I build her like kogmaw with less range and kill stuff while I'm fed in my horribly made spotlights.

We here at Riot games believe in making champs unique and different so they will have a nice feel to them. That's why we're changing this champ that had that into something that is more cookie cutter. We hope that this will cause people to not think we are morons. huehuehue *insert troll face gif*"

#1
(Sorry, the whole kayle remake is just pissing me off. She was my first ever played champ and my first main, so it's personal seeing them ruining that hybrid part that made her unique very unique and interesting to me >;/)

The timing on this is just as terrible as the Pantheon HSS "buff". Kayle's actually showing up again in high-Elo and getting some trickle-down to lower Elo play, without the intervention of a rework, because people are figuring out how to play her again. She's absolutely in a fine place right now IMO, and Riot is just screwing with the balance for no reason.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#22569
Just a quick question, Poppy's Q is still 100% magic damage, right?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 23 2011 19:04 GMT
#22570
On July 24 2011 02:45 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 23:48 arnath wrote:
On July 23 2011 22:54 TL Blazeraid wrote:
The top upvoted comment right now is "They should "rework" Katarina and add her mana and double her cooldowns."

Jesus christ, youtube elo must be terrrrrible.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this person was being sarcastic.

Regarding her new passive, I think you can't judge without knowing the numbers. A % armor/MR shred that helps out your whole team could actually be really powerful. Maybe, for example, you could play Kayle sort of like Taric - play bottom lane support, build really tanky and use your passive to help your team kill people.


More like stack the shit out of AP and burst people down at level 2.

Wait what, it's a % based armor/mres SHRED? Then it's totally insane, as that's calculated before anything(Even flat reduction) so you might be able to reach 0.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 23 2011 19:24 GMT
#22571
Bee tee dubs, the "shred" is a debuff placed on the enemy so your allies will also do more damage to said person
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 23 2011 19:28 GMT
#22572
oce playing Cassiopeia in SK vs Millenium, don't think I've seen her in tourney before
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 23 2011 19:31 GMT
#22573
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#22574
http://www.own3d.tv/livepopout/esltv_3634

SK vs Millenium
pretty good game
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 23 2011 19:43 GMT
#22575
On July 24 2011 03:11 randomKo_Orean wrote:
unichan, you gonna be at the VA/DC dinner?

no BRO that shits at like 10 pm and i'm a small 12 year old i cant be out that late !~
:)
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 23 2011 19:57 GMT
#22576
On July 24 2011 04:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
She's being drive to more of a supportive role, but she definitely won't be able to carry games as hard. Her laning will be a little weaker, but her ganking power should be much stronger because she can just haste her ally from the brush and then run up to Q the other guy while your ally has the speed to catch up and land their own attacks.

As stated, % reduction on both magic resist AND armor could be very strong mid-late game depending on the numbers.

But she only has 1 support spell... that's the issue. She has a speed up (the heal doesn't count) and her ulti. That's not a support hero.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 23 2011 19:59 GMT
#22577
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 23 2011 19:59 GMT
#22578
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 23 2011 19:59 GMT
#22579
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 20:02:21
July 23 2011 20:01 GMT
#22580
On July 24 2011 03:56 Nikon wrote:
Just a quick question, Poppy's Q is still 100% magic damage, right?

"Poppy crushes her opponent, dealing attack damage (+60% of ability power) plus 20 / 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 and 8% of her target's maximum health in bonus damage. The bonus damage dealt cannot exceed 75 / 150 / 225 / 300 / 375."

The tooltip looks like it's a 100% attack damage, and 0.6 of your ability power is converted to attack damage.

Still, Poppy's Q hurts a lot when she has Trinity Force. Ow.
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