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Dont-Panic
Germany567 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:21 locodoco wrote: dropped 200 elo in the past few days zz annie and alistar iz hard~! You have to stop playing with saintvicious. That kid is too bad. Only ~120 rating :-D | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:21 Shikyo wrote: Ehh why would they nerf Udyr? He really isn't too good at all in comparison to many other champions. . Because max turtle sololane udyr is just as tanky as ww, but does an ass ton of damage since his q hits like a billion with no ad. And he has a stun. Less sustain, but still really powerful. And Riot has a history of nerfing champs out of roles where they feel champs dont belong: eve jungle, soon to be lane ww, ect. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Cho does the same thing with rupture/scream combo. malphite can just keep q'ing you and you will never q him ever if hes not full retard the way to beat sustained laners has always been to just push their shit in | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote: The "current metagame" always seems so easy to break if people were willing to test shit out. zz that's because it is. it's the same way in any ever-changing game that isn't horribly unbalanced. On July 07 2011 00:29 Brees wrote: ive tried them all out with practice, there is zero chance of warwick keeping up with alistar in farm when he just walks up to your wave and pulverize/tramples it and forces you to last hit at tower. you will have to waste mana or lose cs Cho does the same thing with rupture/scream combo. malphite can just keep q'ing you and you will never q him ever if hes not full retard I won't bother Qing Malphite, I'll just Q creeps to trade mana with him and we'll end up nowhere except him staying off the creepwave to avoid being the one eating my Qs. I sorta agree with the push him to the tower theory except that a smart team will gank you for it really early in my experience (on this note, Morde is pretty much the same as Cho and Ali in this respect). | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:18 Two_DoWn wrote: They need to nerf q, buff his passive back up. Boom, fixed his lane, keeps jungle the same. Udyr is a bit more tricky. Prolly have to nerf the shield, buff the passive lifesteal, buff phoenix as well since that is the tank build. IMO the % of damage to healing on Q should scale on rank. He doesn't need the 100% heal to stay full HP in the hungle, and it's retardedly efficient in lane. Something like 40%/50%60%/70%/80% damage dealt as healing. Drastically cut the heal during laning while not hitting the lategame values too hard. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:42 Two_DoWn wrote: Only problem is that since they took down the passive sustain on his autos from his passive, he has been fairly reliant on his qs to maintain his high levels of health. Cutting the regen is a straight nerf to his jungle. Thats why they need to buff the passive back up, maybe even a bit higher than before. And that way he is manageable in lane, because to heal as efficiently he has to attack creeps more than once, which opens him up to harass. Oh I agree with that. I'm just hoping Riot identifies the problem as Q's stupidly efficient in-lane harass/sustain. Of course, given their track record, they'll probably do something silly like nerfing the lategame % damage on Q and ruin both jungle and lanewick alike. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:50 TheYango wrote: Oh I agree with that. I'm just hoping Riot identifies the problem as Q's stupidly efficient in-lane harass/sustain. Of course, given their track record, they'll probably do something silly like nerfing the lategame % damage on Q and ruin both jungle and lanewick alike. /thinks of Panth's W and E | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
In other words, abuse Jungler in lane as much as you can while you still can! Udyr/Noc solo top FOTM, calling it now. (Udyr Q first with AD Runes stacking Dorans is pretty beastly from what I've seen. Adding Turtle stance is nuts.) | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:54 MoonBear wrote: In other words, abuse Jungler in lane as much as you can while you still can! Udyr/Noc solo top FOTM, calling it now. (Udyr Q first with AD Runes stacking Dorans is pretty beastly from what I've seen. Adding Turtle stance is nuts.) Yah lane Udyr is crazy strong. I got tower-dived by a lvl 8 land udyr as caitlyn. He ate 12 tower shots in the process of killing me, and just sauntered away. Even hit a trap while chasing me in circles but bear = superspeed, turtle = LOLinvulnerable, and tiger = lol half ur hp. | ||
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:54 MoonBear wrote: Riot hates anything that lets you sustain in lane. They consider it bad from a design perspective. It's why everything with a heal is currently on target for nerfs/remakes. Heals in their opinion should be a clutch singular move you use as a game-changing maneuver instead of something you can just spam. Yorick seems to be a step in the wrong direction in this regards, but I don't blame them; I can't really think of anything other than heal his third ghost could do either. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:16 Brees wrote: so warwick nerfs incoming apparently, they are ruining my best junglers one by one, first shaco now warwick. Expect udyr to be nerfed as well or the patch after then ill have no good junglers left cept like trundle. lol gg Calling Lanemumu FOTM into nerf now. On July 07 2011 00:54 MoonBear wrote: Riot hates anything that lets you sustain in lane. They consider it bad from a design perspective. It's why everything with a heal is currently on target for nerfs/remakes. Heals in their opinion should be a clutch singular move you use as a game-changing maneuver instead of something you can just spam. In other words, abuse Jungler in lane as much as you can while you still can! Udyr/Noc solo top FOTM, calling it now. (Udyr Q first with AD Runes stacking Dorans is pretty beastly from what I've seen. Adding Turtle stance is nuts.) WHAT? Let's see, current champ releases... Yorick: Lifesteal, spammable Lee Sin: Lifesteal, spammable Nocturne: Lifesteal, passive Maokai: Heal, passive Karma: Heal Renekton: Lifesteal, spammable Trundle: Heal, passive Irelia: TWO Heals, passive and spammable Swain: HP + Mana Heal, VERY spammable Sona: Heal, spammable The ONLY recent champ releases (looking at the last 19) that don't have insane sustainability due to one reason or another are LeBlanc, Cassiopeia and Vayne. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:30 Mogwai wrote: that's because it is. it's the same way in any ever-changing game that isn't horribly unbalanced. I won't bother Qing Malphite, I'll just Q creeps to trade mana with him and we'll end up nowhere except him staying off the creepwave to avoid being the one eating my Qs. I sorta agree with the push him to the tower theory except that a smart team will gank you for it really early in my experience (on this note, Morde is pretty much the same as Cho and Ali in this respect). Can any of you smart folks tell me if akali beats laneww? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 07 2011 01:51 spinesheath wrote: Calling Lanemumu FOTM into nerf now. WHAT? Let's see, current champ releases... Yorick: Lifesteal, spammable Lee Sin: Lifesteal, spammable Nocturne: Lifesteal, passive Maokai: Heal, passive Karma: Heal Renekton: Lifesteal, spammable Trundle: Heal, passive Irelia: TWO Heals, passive and spammable Swain: HP + Mana Heal, VERY spammable Sona: Heal, spammable The ONLY recent champ releases (looking at the last 19) that don't have insane sustainability due to one reason or another are LeBlanc, Cassiopeia and Vayne. Brand Orianna Jarvan Caitlyn Lux? Rumble, technically, though in practice his post-Revolver sustain is retardedly good. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 07 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote: The "current metagame" always seems so easy to break if people were willing to test shit out. zz A lot of it is due to lemming mentality (Tier lists etc.) and the fact that 99.99999% of players don't comprehend the game. We've gone over this in our skype chat though like a zillion times so it feels like flogging a dead horse to us :p | ||
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