General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 999

On July 06 2011 17:37 HazMat wrote:

That's the point haha.

On July 06 2011 21:01 BluzMan wrote:
Keep in mind that 'casual' principles behind LoL are the real reason why LoL has so much more players than other MOBA games. It's not like porting DotA to another brand new engine is an autowin, but Valve definitely knows more about making games, so we'll see.

On July 06 2011 21:55 Woony wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njQb2b6co2w
Guy analyzing the Yorick spotlight, fucking hilarious (starts at 1:00)

On July 06 2011 21:45 Velr wrote:
Imho the real diffrence between Lol and Dota (for casuals) is the following:

In Lol comebacks are/seem WAY easyer..
Heroes don't seem to scale up as mad as they do in Dota. In low level/pub Dota it's common that 1-2 farmed Carries just kill the whole other Team in a matter of seconds. That does not happen in Lol (or not as often/the diffrence in farm/skill needs to be bigger). It's really easy to Snowball an early advantage into a fast Victory in Dota, it's a bit harder in LoL.
I mean everyone has probably memories of that Jungle TB/Troll/Naix/Ursa/Whatever after 25 minutes suddenly coming into a Teamfight and everyone is dead in seconds because you couldn't organise a Gank on him because.. well pub... ).
Or that Cent/Tidehutner/Slardar/Sven/LoA that somehow dominated his lane and now suddenly is next to unkillable even when your early was ok/good but your enemies refused to get killed... :p

On July 06 2011 21:45 Velr wrote:
Imho the real diffrence between Lol and Dota (for casuals) is the following:

In Lol comebacks are/seem WAY easyer..
Heroes don't seem to scale up as mad as they do in Dota. In low level/pub Dota it's common that 1-2 farmed Carries just kill the whole other Team in a matter of seconds. That does not happen in Lol (or not as often/the diffrence in farm/skill needs to be bigger). It's really easy to Snowball an early advantage into a fast Victory in Dota, it's a bit harder in LoL.
I mean everyone has probably memories of that Jungle TB/Troll/Naix/Ursa/Whatever after 25 minutes suddenly coming into a Teamfight and everyone is dead in seconds because you couldn't organise a Gank on him because.. well pub... ).
Or that Cent/Tidehutner/Slardar/Sven/LoA that somehow dominated his lane and now suddenly is next to unkillable even when your early was ok/good but your enemies refused to get killed... :p

That just does not happen as extrem in LoL and makes it WAY more fun on lower levels were stuff like this happens ALL THE TIME in Dota... I don't remember the last "true" random Pub in Dota that wasn't decided by the 2-3 best players in the game while the rest was just in there to feed them :D (fun times!).

This also makes comebacks more likely, i've won plenty (well, my total is 60-70) of lol games were we were behind like mad because 2-3 guys/me screwed up their lanes but then the Team began to actually stick together and won the game while being 10-20 kills behind.
This is fun! The better Team still wins, but you don't instalose because someone failed a little in his lane (as long as he plays ok later ).

I like that, i don't like the removal of denies and other stuff, but this (and the lower death penalty which probably is one of the biggest reasons for this) is making the game just more "fun" for a broad audience.