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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:57:28
July 06 2011 14:46 GMT
#19981
What is the build on Lee Sin now that 2x tempest is gone?

Bam 1st post on 1k. God I'm good.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
July 06 2011 14:47 GMT
#19982
1000 pages!
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 14:48 GMT
#19983
since the mod set the standard, I'ma do it too!

1000 pages!

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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:59:26
July 06 2011 14:56 GMT
#19984
good job people 1000 pages of useful information about league of legends

Also lol@ the people in this thread who jumps every time someone brings up DotA/HoN. It's the closest comparison no need to shit bricks.
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Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
July 06 2011 14:57 GMT
#19985
yeaaaahhhh 1000 pages.
TLoL es number 1
If your life had a face, I'd punch it. I'd punch your life in the face.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
July 06 2011 14:57 GMT
#19986
Blind monk double tempest is gone.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2011 14:58 GMT
#19987
On July 06 2011 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
since the mod set the standard, I'ma do it too!

1000 pages!

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Daw that's a cute kitty :3
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 06 2011 14:59 GMT
#19988
I actually won a ranked game yesterday with Yorick and raped, pretty good jungler besides the ganks...its kinda like yi or tryn jungling but way funnier

Highlight was once I got triforce I went up to an ashe, exhausted her, then 1 shotted her from 3/4th hp from a Q.

Many Yorick OP and Lolz were had
Brees on in
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
July 06 2011 15:01 GMT
#19989
1000 pages !

LoL es #1
Brood War is forever
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
July 06 2011 15:03 GMT
#19990
1000 wow!
this shit is going crazy :D
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g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
July 06 2011 15:06 GMT
#19991
This is the second LoL thread to get to 1k pages. This community is #1!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 06 2011 15:13 GMT
#19992
Saintvicious stream is even funny when he duos with locodoco lol. As kayle he keeps loco (noct) alive for a good minute 2v5 rofl.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 06 2011 15:16 GMT
#19993
so warwick nerfs incoming apparently, they are ruining my best junglers one by one, first shaco now warwick. Expect udyr to be nerfed as well or the patch after then ill have no good junglers left cept like trundle. lol gg
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 06 2011 15:18 GMT
#19994
On July 07 2011 00:16 Brees wrote:
so warwick nerfs incoming apparently, they are ruining my best junglers one by one, first shaco now warwick. Expect udyr to be nerfed as well or the patch after then ill have no good junglers left cept like trundle. lol gg

They need to nerf q, buff his passive back up. Boom, fixed his lane, keeps jungle the same.

Udyr is a bit more tricky. Prolly have to nerf the shield, buff the passive lifesteal, buff phoenix as well since that is the tank build.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 06:23:29
July 06 2011 15:20 GMT
#19995
NAME OF ARTICLE

Table of Contents



No Tie-breaking Surprises



Balancing the Artillery


Check out the LCS schedule and matchups at lolesports.com



With the League of Legends Championship Series looming on the horizon, TeamLiquid scored an opportunity to have a sit down with Riot's Vice President of eSports to ask him some questions about the intricacies of LCS as well as where Riot stands on the current state of the competitive scene.


No Tie-breaking Surprises

On LoL Championship Series


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Dustin sees your League of Warmog's and raises you with Bio-Arcane Barrage

NeoIllusions: Hey Dustin, thanks for taking the time to talk with us. Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do for Riot Games.
Dustin Beck: My pleasure - always happy to make time for our friends at TeamLiquid. I'm Dustin Beck, and I am the Vice-President of eSports. I do a lot of things over here, we have our hands full recently! We are building out a team dedicated on creating a healthy ecosystem for our sport, so we have people focused on the LCS (execution, video, rules and guidelines, player management, etc), just released a new website, have people looped in with our design team that have been helping with our new league system, and so forth.

NeoIllusions: With LCS commencing tomorrow, let's go into the details about the league for fans and critics alike. What was the specific motivation in creating regional leagues for the LCS? What do you want to say to fans who want to see even more intra-regional competition in Season 3?
Dustin Beck: The regional/global structure already exists in many traditionally popular sports, other eSports and even LoL eSports. For example, soccer has regional leagues which roll up to epic international competitions like UEFA Champions League and the World Cup. In League of Legends eSports, regional leagues already exist – Korea has OGN Champions and Southeast Asia + Taiwan has the Garena Premier League. We like this model of regional league play rolling up into international competitions, and decided to continue using it in Season 3.

NeoIllusions: While eSports is a global phenomenon but it seems like with the LCS will divide NA and EU. Korea, China and SEA have leagues previously mentioned. How does Riot plan to advance international competition this season? How will Riot promote the various leagues to foreign audiences? (for example OGN to an NA/EU viewership and vice versa)
Dustin Beck: eSports fans interested in international competition can still get that before the World Championship. Our partner events such as IPL, MLG and Dreamhack will have international exhibitions showcasing top-notch competition. Furthermore, the best players in each region – as elected by the fans – will compete in an All Star competition in Shanghai during the break between halves of the LCS. With this structure, fans will get a taste of international competition during the year and storylines between regions will build up, culminating in the World Championship.
There is awesome League of Legends eSports competition going on across the globe, and fans in each region deserve to see more of it than they did during Season 2. In most cases, the lack of exposure to foreign competition is due to time zone differences, lack of native language casting or low production quality. Over the course of Season 3, we hope to showcase rebroadcasts of foreign competition in a variety of languages. Furthermore, we’ll be broadcasting LCS matches abroad in foreign languages. The ultimate goal is to help fans to learn about the teams and playstyles they will see at the World Championship.

NeoIllusions: Are they any eSports aspects of other leagues, companies, or games you think are missing from LoL (gameplay features, tournament setups, etc.)? What would you want/hope to add, if anything?
Dustin Beck: While I’m pretty happy with the direction we’re heading in now, we constantly look at different leagues and sports for inspiration on how we can do better. One thing I’ve mentioned before is that we need to focus on the entire competitive ecosystem to ensure long-term success. We’ve started that with the launch of the League System, but I think there is still more we can do at the grassroots competitive level.

NeoIllusions: Why did you decide to prevent brother teams from existing in the LCS? Korean organizations have proven it is possible to have this and still retain competitive integrity (Azubu Frost/Flame, KT Rolster A/B, etc.)
Dustin Beck: We prevented brother teams from existing in the LCS because we think that in the long run, this is a positive decision for the eSports ecosystem. One positive aspect from the new LCS structure is that we will see these teams grow into franchises – you can already see that with SoloMid or Counter Logic Gaming. With only eight teams in each regional division, it’s better for the long term health of the ecosystem to have more of these franchises around. LCS teams will be able to support challenger teams for the purpose of developing future stars, and you already see that happening, such as Dignitas picking up Pulse.

NeoIllusions: How does the LCS handle tiebreaks? Will it be time based? Will it be penalty point based like StarCraft Proleague?
Dustin Beck: I can tell you one thing... we heard the community loud and clear, and it won't be time based. We know fans like ties being resolved, so any ties will be played out until there is a winner. If you want to compare it to baseball, they have a tiebreaker game before the playoffs start.

NeoIllusions: With a number of Asian tournaments (OGN, Stars War League, G-League) as well as Dota2’s The International using Bo2 during group stages, why did Riot decide to use Bo1 format for LCS? Even though all the matchups between teams are four a piece, isn’t it a concern that team A has to play Blue side on one patch and purple side on a different patch?
Dustin Beck: we have four games a night, so we wanted to create more diversity over the evening for a better viewing experience. Plus, there will be 4 of the games over the course of our first split season instead of 2, so that's also compelling for the viewers.

NeoIllusions: Riot is pushing LoL to new heights in Season 3, even aiming to mimic mainstream sports in NA like baseball and basketball. However, with such ambition, there are also mainstream risks. In recent news, a corruption scandal was uncovered involving match fixing. Even perennial eSports titles like Brood War have not been immune to match fixing. Is this a concern for Riot going into Season 3 where more and more teams are seeing money involved with pro gaming?
Dustin Beck: obviously there is heightened risk with the amount of money and fame involved, but Riot is laser focused on maintaining the integrity of our sport. We've gone to great lengths to ensure there will be no cheating, or match fixing. To give an example, at the world championship we tested all of the peripherals broughts in by the players on devices used to see if any malware was installed on their devices. We take this very seriously.


Balancing the Artillery

On Balance and the Competitive Scene


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Nika (RiotNikasaur), Dustin (RiotRedBeard), and Jeffrey (RiotLyte)

NeoIllusions: Moving on to Game Balance: How does Riot view the current overall state of the competitive game? Various designers have commented about specific aspects of the game (jungle design, champ balance, etc.), but how does Riot feel about where the game as a whole stands, at least in relation to competitive play?
Dustin Beck: So these answers are coming from our design team, if you want someone to quote it would be Kevin O'Brien (RiotGeeves), better known as the man, the myth and the legend.
The game is playing pretty well competitively right now. We are happy to see the return of assassins to the competitive scene and the changes in team compositions to fit with them. Cohesive teams are using lane swaps and other strategies to try to outplay specific enemies with better success than season 2. There are a few things that we are looking into, such as health stacking and mass consumable starts early with wards, but overall we like the way the competitive game is trending from the preseason changes.

NeoIllusions: Are there any plans to balance first ban/pick with blue purple side? While it was not as drastic at the EU LCS, in both OGN and NA LCS, blue side is victorious over 65% of the time.
Dustin Beck: We are still trying to let things settle in with the changes that we made for season 3. The sample is still pretty small for competitive games in season 3 and in many instances, a higher seeded team has choice of side, but if we see bad trends we’ll look more into it.

NeoIllusions: We have seen a number of very common bans or picks going into S3. For example, Kha'zix, Olaf, Shen, Eve, Elise, etc) Does Riot think that these heroes are balanced or do they need more tweaking? Zileas was rather against on the LoL forums about adding additional bans. Is Riot still standing on that opinion?
Dustin Beck: There are different reasons that these characters are being picked currently. In some cases, combinations of characters are quite powerful, such as Miss Fortune’s ultimate with area damage compositions. For Elise, it’s because she scales so well in the current health stacking meta. For the rest, they are just strong all-around champions that we have been investigating and adjusting.
Regarding bans, the approach we take is balancing out the # of bans against the strategic options that we want teams to be able to have as well as having a natural stop if some champions become S tier in power. We want to maximize the amount of in game strategy and not sway too far into the direction of deterministic results based on champ selection. Some number of bans keeps the competitive game fresh, but too many may prevent some players from showcasing their skill on champions they are particularly good at. Watching MadLife play Blitzcrank for example is always a treat to watch.
The theory that we run under is that we attempt to stay on top of characters that are trending out of line through direct adjustments to those characters, adjustments to the environments under which they flourish (health stacking), or buffing up other characters to be in line with them. If this becomes too difficult to maintain then we will consider increasing the number of bans.

NeoIllusions: Lastly, Season 3 brought another change to the Jungle, similar to Season 2. Riot has made several statements about their goals with the Jungle as well. Do you feel as if the current Jungle is meeting your goals? What do you consider to be the point of jungling and how well does that mesh with games you're seeing in the current professional setting?
Dustin Beck: To rehash the stated goals of the preseason jungle changes, we wanted to increase jungler diversity, reduce very early pressure they were putting on lanes, and give them a bigger presence in team fights. We have seen results thus far that are positive towards this end, as well as a few things that are detrimental to them from other changes. Ward usage seems to be lowering gank potential early, so we have looked into Sightstone as a potential cause and are currently investigating the sharp rise of mass consumable starts with wards.

NeoIllusions: With that, we conclude our interview with Dustin! Thank you for your time. Do you have any last words to your fans?
Dustin Beck: Thanks to all of the fans, they are awesome and we can't wait to deliver new and cool eSport content to them every week. Also a big thanks to my team, they work so hard and are the people behind the scenes making all this stuff happen. Legit stuff ahead, stay tuned!


This interview was brought to you by NeoIllusions, JBright, MoonBear, and ShiroiUsagi.

Special thanks to http://esports.sgamer.com for the last picture.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#19996
On July 07 2011 00:18 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 00:16 Brees wrote:
so warwick nerfs incoming apparently, they are ruining my best junglers one by one, first shaco now warwick. Expect udyr to be nerfed as well or the patch after then ill have no good junglers left cept like trundle. lol gg

They need to nerf q, buff his passive back up. Boom, fixed his lane, keeps jungle the same.

Udyr is a bit more tricky. Prolly have to nerf the shield, buff the passive lifesteal, buff phoenix as well since that is the tank build.

Ehh why would they nerf Udyr? He really isn't too good at all in comparison to many other champions. .
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
July 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#19997
dropped 200 elo in the past few days
zz
annie and alistar iz hard~!
i wish riot would give me better ping
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#19998
the funniest part is how solo warwick can get beaten in lane by lots of chars and then is less useful on fights on top of that. alistar cho malphite kayle and pretty much any other sustained character with a ranged harass beats him.
Brees on in
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 06 2011 15:24 GMT
#19999
cool 1k =o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 15:26 GMT
#20000
On July 07 2011 00:22 Brees wrote:
the funniest part is how solo warwick can get beaten in lane by lots of chars and then is less useful on fights on top of that. alistar cho malphite kayle and pretty much any other sustained character with a ranged harass beats him.

zzz, alistar cho malphite? u crazy bro? seriously, lanewick eats all them up on pure mana efficiency (well, Cho might be a wash). Kayle seems to rape him, as do safe ranged carries like teemo, corki, cait, etc, but NOOOOOOO, we all gotta play EU style, heaven forbid we actually try to set up good lane matchups. zzz
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