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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 18:37 GMT
#20041
it's something like she has double his range with E up and Q also has double his range + Q is a slow + W is a haste. It's the same reason I refuse to play WW vs. teemo, you just eat so much harass and can't retaliate without blowing ult + flash to start it off so you are pretty much just a sitting duck until a gank comes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 06 2011 18:45 GMT
#20042
On July 07 2011 03:37 Mogwai wrote:
it's something like she has double his range with E up and Q also has double his range + Q is a slow + W is a haste. It's the same reason I refuse to play WW vs. teemo, you just eat so much harass and can't retaliate without blowing ult + flash to start it off so you are pretty much just a sitting duck until a gank comes.


I don't really play lanewick that much, but when I do against people that aren't completely retarded, I just R+Q+Ignite them every time CD is up. They have to go back from it, or else bloodscent lets me Q them all day.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 18:48 GMT
#20043
it's not a sustainable way to lane though and pre 6 you get FUCKED up.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
GrymReaperz
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada26 Posts
July 06 2011 18:50 GMT
#20044
They are going to be running a leona preview game right now on the riot stream http://clgaming.net/live/427-riot-games
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
July 06 2011 18:54 GMT
#20045
Phreak trying to disagree with Zenon and getting told.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 06 2011 18:54 GMT
#20046
Is it just me or does the German guy on the riot stream is like really really angry at Phreak. *chuckle* "We will do Leona now, leave the game"
"but.."
"GO get out of game now!"
heh
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
July 06 2011 19:00 GMT
#20047
The "German guy" on the riot stream is http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=DanielZKlein btw.
wat
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 19:04:53
July 06 2011 19:03 GMT
#20048
Phreak telling the stream he thinks Leona should be played in a duo lane.

We don't even have to wait for the champion spotlight for him to show us how to play the new champ the wrong way!

.....and is laning a tank with Ashe. Real smart.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#20049
On July 07 2011 01:53 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 00:30 Mogwai wrote:
On July 07 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
The "current metagame" always seems so easy to break if people were willing to test shit out. zz


that's because it is. it's the same way in any ever-changing game that isn't horribly unbalanced.


On July 07 2011 00:29 Brees wrote:
ive tried them all out with practice, there is zero chance of warwick keeping up with alistar in farm when he just walks up to your wave and pulverize/tramples it and forces you to last hit at tower. you will have to waste mana or lose cs

Cho does the same thing with rupture/scream combo.

malphite can just keep q'ing you and you will never q him ever if hes not full retard

I won't bother Qing Malphite, I'll just Q creeps to trade mana with him and we'll end up nowhere except him staying off the creepwave to avoid being the one eating my Qs. I sorta agree with the push him to the tower theory except that a smart team will gank you for it really early in my experience (on this note, Morde is pretty much the same as Cho and Ali in this respect).


Can any of you smart folks tell me if akali beats laneww?

Really hard to beat laneww, that's probably one of the reasons they plan on nerfing his heal this patch.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 06 2011 19:07 GMT
#20050
On July 07 2011 04:00 EquilasH wrote:
The "German guy" on the riot stream is http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=DanielZKlein btw.


You'll excuse me if I am particularly bad with names sir. Still I like his "do this, do this now" attitude. He get's an approval.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 19:10 GMT
#20051
Akali can beat WW, but shouldn't. Basically she can win if WW sits in her clouds, but if he avoids your cloud and forces you to trade, Akali loses IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2011 19:13 GMT
#20052
So Phreak says
"she has 1000 burst damage available at level 18 without any items"

Hmm
450+250+285 = 985

why that sounds like Annie!

and Jarvan!

Can you say

TANKY DPS
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 19:14:45
July 06 2011 19:14 GMT
#20053
On July 07 2011 04:05 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 01:53 cascades wrote:
On July 07 2011 00:30 Mogwai wrote:
On July 07 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
The "current metagame" always seems so easy to break if people were willing to test shit out. zz


that's because it is. it's the same way in any ever-changing game that isn't horribly unbalanced.


On July 07 2011 00:29 Brees wrote:
ive tried them all out with practice, there is zero chance of warwick keeping up with alistar in farm when he just walks up to your wave and pulverize/tramples it and forces you to last hit at tower. you will have to waste mana or lose cs

Cho does the same thing with rupture/scream combo.

malphite can just keep q'ing you and you will never q him ever if hes not full retard

I won't bother Qing Malphite, I'll just Q creeps to trade mana with him and we'll end up nowhere except him staying off the creepwave to avoid being the one eating my Qs. I sorta agree with the push him to the tower theory except that a smart team will gank you for it really early in my experience (on this note, Morde is pretty much the same as Cho and Ali in this respect).


Can any of you smart folks tell me if akali beats laneww?

Really hard to beat laneww, that's probably one of the reasons they plan on nerfing his heal this patch.

I used to play him in lane before lanewick got shown at DH, and I used to get the crap trolled out of me even though I was winning lanes left and right... It's such an FotM right now that I see lanewick fp'd and then put mid against a typical ap carry like malzahar.

IMO his Q needs a small nerf, everything else can remain as is and be perfectly fine.


So Phreak says
"she has 1000 burst damage available at level 18 without any items"

Hmm
450+250+285 = 985

Can you say OP? They must be trolling.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#20054
The numbers I added were Annie's base damage skills, and I'm not sure exactly what Leona's is, but hey, 1000 right? :D
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
July 06 2011 19:16 GMT
#20055
That's annie base dmg at level 18? Wow, I've never actually added that up before. ^_^

Scary good.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 19:19:09
July 06 2011 19:17 GMT
#20056
At 16, but yeah.

And apparently Leona has similar.

Trololololol wait really?

By the way Jarvan is 270+260+450 at level 16 for 980, but his stuff scales off base damage too so it's actually above 1000.

So did you know that Jarvan's base skill damage at level 16 with no items trumps even that of Annie?

Edit:
Actually, it might not scale off the base damage off levels (not sure), if so, then okay he needs like 3 damage to trump Annie.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 06 2011 19:17 GMT
#20057
That ashe arrow on the leona stream. Most legit arrow I've ever seen.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 19:19:24
July 06 2011 19:17 GMT
#20058
On July 07 2011 04:14 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:05 Irave wrote:
On July 07 2011 01:53 cascades wrote:
On July 07 2011 00:30 Mogwai wrote:
On July 07 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
The "current metagame" always seems so easy to break if people were willing to test shit out. zz


that's because it is. it's the same way in any ever-changing game that isn't horribly unbalanced.


On July 07 2011 00:29 Brees wrote:
ive tried them all out with practice, there is zero chance of warwick keeping up with alistar in farm when he just walks up to your wave and pulverize/tramples it and forces you to last hit at tower. you will have to waste mana or lose cs

Cho does the same thing with rupture/scream combo.

malphite can just keep q'ing you and you will never q him ever if hes not full retard

I won't bother Qing Malphite, I'll just Q creeps to trade mana with him and we'll end up nowhere except him staying off the creepwave to avoid being the one eating my Qs. I sorta agree with the push him to the tower theory except that a smart team will gank you for it really early in my experience (on this note, Morde is pretty much the same as Cho and Ali in this respect).


Can any of you smart folks tell me if akali beats laneww?

Yea the only healing part I think they will put the focus on his is Q. That way he still can have his easy time in the jungle and not get affected to hard.

.

I used to play him in lane before lanewick got shown at DH, and I used to get the crap trolled out of me even though I was winning lanes left and right... It's such an FotM right now that I see lanewick fp'd and then put mid against a typical ap carry like malzahar.

IMO his Q needs a small nerf, everything else can remain as is and be perfectly fine.

Show nested quote +

So Phreak says
"she has 1000 burst damage available at level 18 without any items"

Hmm
450+250+285 = 985

Can you say OP? They must be trolling.

Yea the only healing part I think they will put the focus on his is Q. That way he still can have his easy time in the jungle and not get affected to hard.

Watching this preview on the new champion doesn't excite me to play her. Hopefully they will be doing something like releasing full patch notes in the near future.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2011 19:21 GMT
#20059
Finally, Irelia at level 16 with no items does
140+280+740 = 1160

Mmhmm.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
July 06 2011 19:23 GMT
#20060
On July 07 2011 04:17 Southlight wrote:
So did you know that Jarvan's base skill damage at level 16 with no items trumps even that of Annie?

Edit:.


Warwick does more than 1k if the enemy has at least 2100 health!
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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