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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 06 2011 20:14 GMT
#20081
Just wondering. The udyr discussion has me thinking, along with my own experience.

Alistar v. Udyr top solo lane. Who wins? When I played it, as Udyr, I got completely worked by Alistar post, like...lvl 4. Before that, I could keep him off the creeps with Q+E and W to counter his headbutt harass. But once he gets headbutt, pulverize, heal, I couldn't do jack shit and he just zoned me hard. If I somehow got some Q's on him, he'd just play it safe and heal back up. Otherwise, he's just last hit and W+Q me every freaking time I try to last hit and due to the mechanics of knockback, I can't really counter his harass.

I maxed Q, then W, so maybe I'm doing it wrong? But even then, W max only shields for like...200-300, while equal lvl W+Q harass easily bypasses that in terms of damage, especially with 2-3 doran's rings.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:17:07
July 06 2011 20:14 GMT
#20082
my favorite

yi: 300 Alpha Strike + 185109238421098301928 (from 12809401985810948901 auto attacks within 0.5 seconds with E and R active) = infinity billion damages

EDIT: I feel like udyr should be able to just sit around in turtle stance and heal up while getting CS. Ali's a bitch vs. Melee, but between your shield and healing off of turtle, I don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to just chill out and outlast his mana pool with non-stop turtling. Maxing Q is definitely wrong. I don't see any udyrs maxing Q in lane, it's all W. And it's especially stupid vs. Alistar who is unhittable with a melee attack.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
July 06 2011 20:22 GMT
#20083
Phreak: last-hitting is an extremely VIABLE skill
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 06 2011 20:22 GMT
#20084
On July 07 2011 05:14 Mogwai wrote:
my favorite

yi: 300 Alpha Strike + 185109238421098301928 (from 12809401985810948901 auto attacks within 0.5 seconds with E and R active) = infinity billion damages

EDIT: I feel like udyr should be able to just sit around in turtle stance and heal up while getting CS. Ali's a bitch vs. Melee, but between your shield and healing off of turtle, I don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to just chill out and outlast his mana pool with non-stop turtling. Maxing Q is definitely wrong. I don't see any udyrs maxing Q in lane, it's all W. And it's especially stupid vs. Alistar who is unhittable with a melee attack.

Yea, I'll try that next time.

So what's landyr's skill order? W>Q>E>R? Although I've heard R max and Q max are both good, while leaving E at lvl 3 in order to maximize dps. Although I feel like max R just isn't worth it. I'd rather have the extra movespeed boost/duration...
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#20085
W>All, other stuff is preference based. R > Q makes you a better split pusher. I would continue to level Bear to make kiting you that much harder, but I guess if it's more of a let's-sit-around-and-wail-on-each-other style game that Q > R > E for maxing makes some sense, I just can't imagine not wanting the extra movespeed buff.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 06 2011 20:29 GMT
#20086
I just lost my wallet at my internet cafe while playing LoL

I hate chinese people for not returning my wallet.

I hope they enjoy my expired sub 21 driver's license and my red cross blood donation card.

fgts.

ps. I'm actually really pissed that I lost my Coldplay concert ticket memoir from my 19th birthday.

/end rage
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 20:33 GMT
#20087
I would call you gay for liking coldplay but I like some of their shit too so I'll let someone else bash your taste in music :p.


also, does anyone here know how to put a delay on a stream using xsplit on own3d? I think I'm gonna post my stream to the CLG stream list, but I would like to have a little protection against ghosting in the future/for when I stream tourney games.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#20088
It should be in own3d options somewhere
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2011 20:35 GMT
#20089
I was vaguely scanning around for it last night with no luck but it was also 3 AM and I was out of my mind tired, so I'll just redouble my efforts tonight, lol.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 06 2011 20:42 GMT
#20090
wtf you listen to coldplay, gtfo now.

Okay my best friend listen to him too so you're okay.

And who is this team that LLL are playing vs on riot stream?? They are so fucking horrible. nunu + lanewick? LETS PICK VLAD TO COUNTER. TF vs brand mid? Lets build banshee veil when we have an underfarmed vlad and bot that got ganked like 200 times which stopped a lot of farm cause top auto lost. hueheuhue.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:00:42
July 06 2011 21:00 GMT
#20091
On July 07 2011 05:14 Southlight wrote:
Except we know Amumu does ridiculous damage, lol. And Amumu is borderline OP anyways, along with being IMO the single strongest initiating "tank" tank.

He isn't on US because people don't think he is a carry and don't get ap items after core.
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#20092
On July 07 2011 05:33 Mogwai wrote:
I would call you gay for liking coldplay but I like some of their shit too so I'll let someone else bash your taste in music :p.


also, does anyone here know how to put a delay on a stream using xsplit on own3d? I think I'm gonna post my stream to the CLG stream list, but I would like to have a little protection against ghosting in the future/for when I stream tourney games.



WHY DOES EVERYONE SAY

"YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW YOU'RE GAY?"

"CUS YOU LISTEN TO COLDPLAY"

WAI.

LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
July 06 2011 21:04 GMT
#20093
I'm thinking about turning all my graphic details to minimum, if I did that would I lose something that affects gameplay (maybe spell animations or something)?
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 06 2011 21:08 GMT
#20094
On July 07 2011 06:04 petu wrote:
I'm thinking about turning all my graphic details to minimum, if I did that would I lose something that affects gameplay (maybe spell animations or something)?


Nope.

I play with everything on low on my macbook.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#20095
On July 07 2011 06:04 petu wrote:
I'm thinking about turning all my graphic details to minimum, if I did that would I lose something that affects gameplay (maybe spell animations or something)?

Everything isn't as pretty, but you are still able to see things fine still. Like cho's knockup etc.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
July 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#20096
On July 07 2011 05:35 Mogwai wrote:
I was vaguely scanning around for it last night with no luck but it was also 3 AM and I was out of my mind tired, so I'll just redouble my efforts tonight, lol.

i remember vodoo on hotshot's stream saying that it was more complicated than that. i think you have to do it through something other than own3d IDK.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 06 2011 21:19 GMT
#20097
On July 07 2011 05:33 Mogwai wrote:
I would call you gay for liking coldplay but I like some of their shit too so I'll let someone else bash your taste in music :p.


also, does anyone here know how to put a delay on a stream using xsplit on own3d? I think I'm gonna post my stream to the CLG stream list, but I would like to have a little protection against ghosting in the future/for when I stream tourney games.

Try

Click "Broadcast" -> "Edit channels"
Add Channel, of type: XSplit.NET
Click Rebroadcast, click your normal channel.
Delay: 360 seconds

This should still be a proper method, its been a while for me.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 06 2011 21:26 GMT
#20098
Just had to queue dodge because I had aznwiseguy last pick twich and call for mid for 2 games in a row

How does Riot unban someone like this kid. He comes back and does the same exact shit and they refuse to ban him.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2011 21:32 GMT
#20099
He's back? Holy god.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 06 2011 21:34 GMT
#20100
On July 07 2011 06:32 Southlight wrote:
He's back? Holy god.

Yes. Last pick, instalock Heal Ghost Twitch, "im mid".
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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