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GrymReaperz
Canada26 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Pantheon: 99 Base damage at 18: Mandrop (1k) + Aegis (150) + HSS (full combo) (258) + Spear Shot (223) = 1631. And that's without any items mind you. But wait, you say. Who lands a perfect mandrop right on the centre? Ok, assume the mandrop does the minimum possible damage, 333. Overall combo for Panth at 18 is still almost 1k. Cho'Gath 305 + 275 + 650 = 1230 In conclusion, there are plenty of champions with stronger combos. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:30 WaveofShadow wrote: This is fun. Can I play too? Pantheon: 99 Base damage at 18: Mandrop (1k) + Aegis (150) + HSS (full combo) (258) + Spear Shot (223) = 1631. And that's without any items mind you. But wait, you say. Who lands a perfect mandrop right on the centre? Ok, assume the mandrop does the minimum possible damage, 333. Overall combo for Panth at 18 is still almost 1k. Hitting a perfect mandrop is easier than hitting a full hss. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Ki Strike: 100 Vorpal: 210 It hurts, yo! | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:34 spinesheath wrote: lvl 18 Shen: Ki Strike: 100 Vorpal: 210 It hurts, yo! You gotta do it properly, lv 18 shen with 5 warmogs. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
its not even primetime anymore. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:34 spinesheath wrote: lvl 18 Shen: Ki Strike: 100 Vorpal: 210 It hurts, yo! It's one fifth of TF's hp at level 18 with no resistances. Ouch. ^_^ Also, how do you get the 750 damage number for irelia? Ultimate+true damage? | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:34 spinesheath wrote: lvl 18 Shen: Ki Strike: 100 Vorpal: 210 It hurts, yo! It's one fifth of TF's hp at level 18 with no resistances. Ouch. ^_^ Also, how do you get the 750 damage number for irelia? Ultimate+true damage? You gotta do it properly, lv 18 shen with 5 warmogs. 6 warmogs, who uses boots? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
Not boots, atmas, doh. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
that might up his damage by 50. ^_^ | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23461 Posts
50? 5 Charged warmogs gives you like 8000 health, so 160 damage. 2 infinity edges in 1 item. ;d | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:30 WaveofShadow wrote: Cho'Gath 305 + 275 + 650 = 1230 In conclusion, there are plenty of champions with stronger combos. Not that many, the only one of those two that really counts is Cho, but he's always been known to have a ridiculous single-target burst, especially with the chunk coming off True Damage. Your Panth example falls flat because you'll never get a full double, and in fact even the minimum 333 isn't exactly reliable from level 16 drop. So yes sometimes he'll explode someone and usually he won't. Every "viable" tanky DPS hero has similar instantaneous burst to Annie, if not trumps them. This isn't a surprise, except possibly to Riot. This also means that if a hero has similar burst to Annie and is supposed to be a different role (ie. tanky, or melee DPS) then the likelihood of that hero being retarded sky rockets. Cho is a funky example there because he's largely considered a spellcaster anyways, so yeah, amazingly Malz and such have similar if not higher burst than Annie. But they're AP carries, as is usually Cho. And a tanky Cho is generally considered an inferior Cho build, so what have you. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:53 Southlight wrote: Not that many, the only one of those two that really counts is Cho, but he's always been known to have a ridiculous single-target burst, especially with the chunk coming off True Damage. Your Panth example falls flat because you'll never get a full double, and in fact even the minimum 333 isn't exactly reliable from level 16 drop. So yes sometimes he'll explode someone and usually he won't. Every "viable" tanky DPS hero has similar instantaneous burst to Annie, if not trumps them. This isn't a surprise, except possibly to Riot. This also means that if a hero has similar burst to Annie and is supposed to be a different role (ie. tanky, or melee DPS) then the likelihood of that hero being retarded sky rockets. Cho is a funky example there because he's largely considered a spellcaster anyways, so yeah, amazingly Malz and such have similar if not higher burst than Annie. But they're AP carries, as is usually Cho. And a tanky Cho is generally considered an inferior Cho build, so what have you. Alright what about tanky Amumu? Bandage Toss (320) + Tantrum (175) + Curse (350) + 3 Despair ticks (total Stun time from Q+R) (72 dmg+ 8.1% max health) = at the very LEAST, 1060 or so damage (on an 1800HP champ) I'm honestly not trying to be facetious here, I'm kind of enjoying calculating all these champs' burst potential though. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
Blitzcrank - 300 (Q) + 237 (Auto+E) + 500 (R Active) + 300 (R Passive) = 1337 damage \o/ | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On July 07 2011 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright what about tanky Amumu? Bandage Toss (320) + Tantrum (175) + Curse (350) + 3 Despair ticks (total Stun time from Q+R) (72 dmg+ 8.1% max health) = at the very LEAST, 1060 or so damage (on an 1800HP champ) I'm honestly not trying to be facetious here, I'm kind of enjoying calculating all these champs' burst potential though. I'm pretty sure there's a thread somewhere with all the total burst combinations already =D. | ||
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