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On July 07 2011 10:43 Asdkmoga wrote:
so when does season two start? i wanna do rankeds, but queue timers high and i dont want to if it ends like tomorrow

On July 07 2011 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I'm on mega tilt lately, losing game after game after game when I got to thinking...
I haven't really improved beyond 1350 in quite a while.
In fact, as soon as I started playing ranked seriously I got to 1350 and pretty much stuck there.

Then thinking about all of my other friends as well as other TL members that I know....my question is this:

Does anyone REALLY improve?

Theoretically speaking it sounds like a stupid question, but then again, what players do you know that have gotten better over time?
I don't want to mention names but of the bunch of TL members I know, none of them have really increased their elos any at all that I can think of, and I'm pretty sure that includes the 'unofficial' TL team.

All of the high elo players that we know of all reach their high elo on multiple smurfs and stick there. How many 'new' high elo players have cropped up over time, slowly improving their game, crawling their way through the 1500-1600s to make their way up to 2200? (Note: I meannot eventually reaching their true elo, rather actualyl belonging at 1500, and slowly improving until they ar better than those players.)

I understand what I must do to improve, the leadership, the proper mechanic,s the not raging, yet I just can't seem to put it into practice beyond a certain level. I doubt I have gotten any better in the past 6+ months.


Any thoughts on this matter?
How much have all you TLers improved your game? What are your experiences?

On July 07 2011 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I'm on mega tilt lately, losing game after game after game when I got to thinking...
I haven't really improved beyond 1350 in quite a while.
In fact, as soon as I started playing ranked seriously I got to 1350 and pretty much stuck there.

Then thinking about all of my other friends as well as other TL members that I know....my question is this:

Does anyone REALLY improve?

Theoretically speaking it sounds like a stupid question, but then again, what players do you know that have gotten better over time?
I don't want to mention names but of the bunch of TL members I know, none of them have really increased their elos any at all that I can think of, and I'm pretty sure that includes the 'unofficial' TL team.

All of the high elo players that we know of all reach their high elo on multiple smurfs and stick there. How many 'new' high elo players have cropped up over time, slowly improving their game, crawling their way through the 1500-1600s to make their way up to 2200? (Note: I meannot eventually reaching their true elo, rather actualyl belonging at 1500, and slowly improving until they ar better than those players.)

I understand what I must do to improve, the leadership, the proper mechanic,s the not raging, yet I just can't seem to put it into practice beyond a certain level. I doubt I have gotten any better in the past 6+ months.


Any thoughts on this matter?
How much have all you TLers improved your game? What are your experiences?

On July 07 2011 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I'm on mega tilt lately, losing game after game after game when I got to thinking...
I haven't really improved beyond 1350 in quite a while.
In fact, as soon as I started playing ranked seriously I got to 1350 and pretty much stuck there.

Then thinking about all of my other friends as well as other TL members that I know....my question is this:

Does anyone REALLY improve?

Theoretically speaking it sounds like a stupid question, but then again, what players do you know that have gotten better over time?
I don't want to mention names but of the bunch of TL members I know, none of them have really increased their elos any at all that I can think of, and I'm pretty sure that includes the 'unofficial' TL team.

All of the high elo players that we know of all reach their high elo on multiple smurfs and stick there. How many 'new' high elo players have cropped up over time, slowly improving their game, crawling their way through the 1500-1600s to make their way up to 2200? (Note: I meannot eventually reaching their true elo, rather actualyl belonging at 1500, and slowly improving until they ar better than those players.)

I understand what I must do to improve, the leadership, the proper mechanic,s the not raging, yet I just can't seem to put it into practice beyond a certain level. I doubt I have gotten any better in the past 6+ months.


Any thoughts on this matter?
How much have all you TLers improved your game? What are your experiences?

On July 07 2011 11:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
I CAN BE SAINTVICIOUS TOO!!!

On July 07 2011 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I'm on mega tilt lately, losing game after game after game when I got to thinking...
I haven't really improved beyond 1350 in quite a while.
In fact, as soon as I started playing ranked seriously I got to 1350 and pretty much stuck there.

Then thinking about all of my other friends as well as other TL members that I know....my question is this:

Does anyone REALLY improve?

Theoretically speaking it sounds like a stupid question, but then again, what players do you know that have gotten better over time?
I don't want to mention names but of the bunch of TL members I know, none of them have really increased their elos any at all that I can think of, and I'm pretty sure that includes the 'unofficial' TL team.

All of the high elo players that we know of all reach their high elo on multiple smurfs and stick there. How many 'new' high elo players have cropped up over time, slowly improving their game, crawling their way through the 1500-1600s to make their way up to 2200? (Note: I meannot eventually reaching their true elo, rather actualyl belonging at 1500, and slowly improving until they ar better than those players.)

I understand what I must do to improve, the leadership, the proper mechanic,s the not raging, yet I just can't seem to put it into practice beyond a certain level. I doubt I have gotten any better in the past 6+ months.


Any thoughts on this matter?
How much have all you TLers improved your game? What are your experiences?

On July 07 2011 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I'm on mega tilt lately, losing game after game after game when I got to thinking...
I haven't really improved beyond 1350 in quite a while.
In fact, as soon as I started playing ranked seriously I got to 1350 and pretty much stuck there.

Then thinking about all of my other friends as well as other TL members that I know....my question is this:

Does anyone REALLY improve?

Theoretically speaking it sounds like a stupid question, but then again, what players do you know that have gotten better over time?
I don't want to mention names but of the bunch of TL members I know, none of them have really increased their elos any at all that I can think of, and I'm pretty sure that includes the 'unofficial' TL team.

All of the high elo players that we know of all reach their high elo on multiple smurfs and stick there. How many 'new' high elo players have cropped up over time, slowly improving their game, crawling their way through the 1500-1600s to make their way up to 2200? (Note: I meannot eventually reaching their true elo, rather actualyl belonging at 1500, and slowly improving until they ar better than those players.)

I understand what I must do to improve, the leadership, the proper mechanic,s the not raging, yet I just can't seem to put it into practice beyond a certain level. I doubt I have gotten any better in the past 6+ months.


Any thoughts on this matter?
How much have all you TLers improved your game? What are your experiences?

On July 07 2011 12:51 locodoco wrote:

my journey from nobody to somebody
started playing last may
demolish every1 with free champs till i hit level 12 or something due to 4 years of dota :3
i knew from the started i wanted to play either ap or ad carry in the game since i played a carry in dota and i hate supporting
i stuck with ad since twitch was free that week and i really liked him
went forum surfing a bit and learned corki was op!
checked his price on the store and realized he was 6300 -.-;;
after more forum browsing some1 said trist is like corki but worse
so i picked up trist~
and from there it was all a blur
kept rising till i started going vs jiji,taburiss,judge,chau,lilballz premade
i kept adding them but they never accept
got mad and made my own premade to beat them~
nyxnyxnyx,denace,valldor,blmz,me
we did really well and it accomplished what i wanted
1.beat jiji premade multiple times
2.get high elo snobs to add me
3.get invited to play with jiji premade :>
about a week or two before season 1 started i got put on waiting list at a college art college i really really wanted to get into
so i stopped playing and devoted most of my time to art
sadly i didnt make the cut and i went back to playing lol about a month or two into season 1
i crushed through 1200 -> 1600 pretty easily with trist
after that it was a slow climb to 1800 duoing with various people
than i hit a big wall
i couldnt get gold elo(1875) no matter what i did
so i took a step back re-evaluated my game and started to really think about why i lost and how to get better
a week or two after that i went from 1850 to 1950 in a few days
that was around 20th place on ladder back than an its when i started forming my first serious team
Heko 4 Council
the original members of heko 4 council

loco
atlanta
saintvicious
asier
heko
zirun

we didnt acomplish much and we broke up after neweggs
and thats when i started streaming
at first it was for TL people mostly
than regi invited me to stream for tsm and i agreed~
fast forward a month or two
regi dont wanna play with clg cuz he dont like hsgg
and he wants me to make a team so he can meet me at season 1 finals
the first person i ask is saintvicious
of course he says yes
regi says he can get oddone to jungle for us and that we should talk to chaox
chaox is in
odd is in
we look for a 5th and chaox and saint really like feedfest
so we get feedfest
hsgg asks me to stream for clg
i tell him no
regi hears about it
regi leaves clg and joins tsm
fast forward another 2 months or so
marcou tells me i cant play with tsm for season 1 finale so i leave
and its all down hill from there l0l
the only real interesting thing that happens after that is me making 2 bad choices
1. i leave team maknoon to join team op
2. i get kicked out of team op cuz i argued with ggumy and manyreason
so im not on either team for wcg zzz
than again im on the waiting list for that sameschool from last year and this time im balancing gaming and art ! :>

tl : dr - loco was gonna tell some tl noob how to improve but he writes random shit about what happened during last 2 years of playing lol

On July 07 2011 12:51 locodoco wrote:

my journey from nobody to somebody
started playing last may
demolish every1 with free champs till i hit level 12 or something due to 4 years of dota :3
i knew from the started i wanted to play either ap or ad carry in the game since i played a carry in dota and i hate supporting
i stuck with ad since twitch was free that week and i really liked him
went forum surfing a bit and learned corki was op!
checked his price on the store and realized he was 6300 -.-;;
after more forum browsing some1 said trist is like corki but worse
so i picked up trist~
and from there it was all a blur
kept rising till i started going vs jiji,taburiss,judge,chau,lilballz premade
i kept adding them but they never accept
got mad and made my own premade to beat them~
nyxnyxnyx,denace,valldor,blmz,me
we did really well and it accomplished what i wanted
1.beat jiji premade multiple times
2.get high elo snobs to add me
3.get invited to play with jiji premade :>
about a week or two before season 1 started i got put on waiting list at a college art college i really really wanted to get into
so i stopped playing and devoted most of my time to art
sadly i didnt make the cut and i went back to playing lol about a month or two into season 1
i crushed through 1200 -> 1600 pretty easily with trist
after that it was a slow climb to 1800 duoing with various people
than i hit a big wall
i couldnt get gold elo(1875) no matter what i did
so i took a step back re-evaluated my game and started to really think about why i lost and how to get better
a week or two after that i went from 1850 to 1950 in a few days
that was around 20th place on ladder back than an its when i started forming my first serious team
Heko 4 Council
the original members of heko 4 council

loco
atlanta
saintvicious
asier
heko
zirun

we didnt acomplish much and we broke up after neweggs
and thats when i started streaming
at first it was for TL people mostly
than regi invited me to stream for tsm and i agreed~
fast forward a month or two
regi dont wanna play with clg cuz he dont like hsgg
and he wants me to make a team so he can meet me at season 1 finals
the first person i ask is saintvicious
of course he says yes
regi says he can get oddone to jungle for us and that we should talk to chaox
chaox is in
odd is in
we look for a 5th and chaox and saint really like feedfest
so we get feedfest
hsgg asks me to stream for clg
i tell him no
regi hears about it
regi leaves clg and joins tsm
fast forward another 2 months or so
marcou tells me i cant play with tsm for season 1 finale so i leave
and its all down hill from there l0l
the only real interesting thing that happens after that is me making 2 bad choices
1. i leave team maknoon to join team op
2. i get kicked out of team op cuz i argued with ggumy and manyreason
so im not on either team for wcg zzz
than again im on the waiting list for that sameschool from last year and this time im balancing gaming and art ! :>

tl : dr - loco was gonna tell some tl noob how to improve but he writes random shit about what happened during last 2 years of playing lol

Let me briefly explain why the decision to delay the gameplay aspect part of the patch occured.

There was a bug with teleport that in a small number of games, the teleport spell would flat out not work at all. As most people who pick teleport in higher elo games, base their strategy around having that teleport, it pretty well damns them and rightly would make them angry.

Now there are three aspects that changed relating to teleport. The first is the lua file which Maketa mentioned. The second was a ward change that relates to how teleport works with it. The third is an item change that could also relate to teleport in a way that requires significant explanation. Any or a combination of those 3 changes could have led to the teleport change.

Now some possible scenarios.

1. Release the patch anyway with a known significant issue. This would cause some small percentage of games to be effectively ruined by something out of players control. It would make those people furious.

2. Disable summoner teleport. This would take more time to test (delaying the patch), and it would make everyone who uses teleport furious and could lead to some imbalanced team compositions in high elo ranked and make those people also angry.

3. Yank all 3 of the changes and hope for the best. This tactic has been done before and it usually leads to other bugs as many things are updated together and reverting some change leads to unintended consequences that have ended up being fairly significant. In various forms this has happened since I have worked at Riot and they have always been the patches with the most angry players. Based upon experience, this could be the worst option.

4. Delay the content while we work on a fix.


Now before anyone asks "why can't riot always explain that", it can very very easily turn into a "well why didn't you do x", and it is impossible to respond to that because it often requires explaining something else we don't want to explain, many people may not understand even if it was explained, and many decisions would make people unhappy regardless of how it is handled. It leads into a situation where you hang yourself accidently even if you try to share everything you possibly can and be as honest as possible. You guys read the official forums, would you want to debate in that environment?

On July 07 2011 06:37 spinesheath wrote:

There are at least 2 people playing lanemumu on US. One of them is me.

He's so much fun.