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Cyanocyst
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Last Edited: 2016-06-06 21:31:03
June 06 2016 21:21 GMT
#21
Very Interesting Article, I wouldn't think that Overwatch would provide much competition to Heroes.

I know Overwatch is having its initial hype, but i'm pretty disappointed with it. I never feel like i'm out playing anyone, or necessarily being out played. It just seems like lots of different scenarios arise through the course of the game that allow one party to abuse their character. In almost every scenario one hero or another will have an advantage.

Sure there is skill, in creating situations where your character thrives and minimizing time spent in situations where you're character doesn't. Though normally in FPS, the thrill comes in knowing you just took someone out who had a roughly equal shot to take you out, but you simply were quicker, or smarter.

I don't Feel a lot of that kind of reward in Overwatch. When kill someone, normally its because i had a significant advantage, and likewise when i die i was at a significant disadvantage.

Stupid of me to place my self in that situation, but i'm almost never mad at the death, because i feel helpless.


Also a lot of the ults feel really, .."Sit back and relax while the computer takes over and does some cool shit on your behalf" ..

Somehow i honestly feel more able to get outplayed or out play someone in Heroes, than in Overwatch.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-06 22:19:12
June 06 2016 22:12 GMT
#22
On June 07 2016 05:40 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 05:34 Immersion_ wrote:
On June 07 2016 05:17 xDaunt wrote:
I doubt that HotS has been a financial failure. Despite all of Blizzard's comments to the contrary, I don't believe for one moment that Blizzard has dedicated a bunch of personnel and other resources to the game. If HotS did have that kind of backing, we'd have seen ranked seasons a year ago, fast hero releases, and a much faster evolution of the game. No, what we have here is an honest to goodness half-assed effort (and if this is not a half-assed effort, then Blizzard needs to fire some people immediately). I'm sure that there's been some return on the investment made, but I doubt that it has been very much. It's a shame that Blizzard has bungled HotS so badly, because the core game is really, really good.


I think at times it's been a big focus for them, but they've been fairly economical with the truth in that I'm sure many of the team are flexible and have been pulled to other projects for long periods of time. The optimist would say they can come back to HoTS and I think there is genuine scope for that, reasoning being:

Starcraft development is now minimal
Hearthstone is probably a fairly different skillset
Overwatch was a complete game out of the box and there is less to gain from hero additions

So it falls on HoTS or future stuff, and I'm hopeful HoTS will get its fair share of the attention.

The real question is whether the Starcraft team is working on HotS or a new, unannounced RTS (or something else entirely).


Sigaty stated nothing will compete in the SC2 space for 10+ years.

On June 07 2016 06:21 Cyanocyst wrote:
Very Interesting Article, I wouldn't think that Overwatch would provide much competition to Heroes.

every new Blizzard game cannibalizes the older Blizzard games. there is a segment of players who just move from one Blizzard game to the next. D3 cannibalized WoW. It'll be interesting to see how quickly Overwatch ends up on the ATVI investor relations page. I say they add it during the next quarterly report thing with lots of fanfare and circle-jerking.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17802 Posts
June 08 2016 20:44 GMT
#23
regarding OW cannibalizing HotS.

HotS posted it lowest Google Trends scores since January of 2015 in the first 2 weeks of OW's release. However, its now back to putting up the same numbers it did a month or more ago.
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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
June 09 2016 09:24 GMT
#24
I don't agree with the whole, "Slow release date on heroes." Dota 2 probably only get 2 new heroes every years. They aren't even that "new" since they basically just got ported from dota 1. Although introducing new character does help, I think the main problem were else where.

The other problem that the chinese scene mentioned does seem to hold some truth. My biggest complaint is that they knew how big the market competition of LoL and Dota 2 were. They should of know how stellar of a product they needed to deliver to even stay relevant in the market. Why it took them so long to get rank out, I have no idea. Why no chat lobby or clans, I have no idea apparently they did not learn from sc2 launch? I am just so confused at their mistakes
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 14:12:43
June 09 2016 14:11 GMT
#25
its a tough judgement call to make, man. Once Blizzard figured out how little cash they were going to make from HotS they pulled lots of people off the game. maybe guys who were going to work on the game 30+ hours a week were assigned 5 hours and given other stuff to do.

and this accounts for slow pace of changes. unfortunately, the small community around HotS is left semi-hanging by these decisions.
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