EPTGeneral Discussion Dehaka Patch - Page 9
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
That said, I think turret Gazlowe is still the best Gazlowe for zoning potential. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
And then the magic happened. He stopped dying at all and became a friggin' monster. Pulling them, soaking damage like crazy, crapping on fasltad head and so. I really enjoyed being the tank with a Dehaka on my side. But I can't imagine him protecting anyone, ever. He's a great off tank for sure. And people aren't used to play vs him at all. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I start to really like Dehaka, especially once I learned how to body block with the character you are pulling lol. Most hilarious thing when a Dehaka comes out of the bushes and grabs an enemy who stayed around to make sure everyone escapes, just to have him form a wall with you that blocks his low health team mates. His playstyle makes even sense lorewise. Whimp at the beginning that needs to feed of the even weaker by soaking rather effectively, lategame a beast. That being said he is a free kill before 10 if you notice he used his Z. So Hammer rule applies to him. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On April 08 2016 00:57 FeyFey wrote: yeah dehaka turns immortal later in the game with the right talents. You can take the carbot heroes ep 9 "teamfight" and replace Johanna with Dehaka, just that Dehaka actually pulls Diablo along with him. (I miss haunted mines so much because the merc timing was so important) I start to really like Dehaka, especially once I learned how to body block with the character you are pulling lol. Most hilarious thing when a Dehaka comes out of the bushes and grabs an enemy who stayed around to make sure everyone escapes, just to have him form a wall with you that blocks his low health team mates. His playstyle makes even sense lorewise. Whimp at the beginning that needs to feed of the even weaker by soaking rather effectively, lategame a beast. That being said he is a free kill before 10 if you notice he used his Z. So Hammer rule applies to him. That being don't siege without your oh shit button? | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On April 07 2016 16:35 Leolio wrote: Played with a Dehaka yesterday, I was ETC, the guy was supposed to be our top player. He proceeds to die 4 times the 5 - 6 first minutes because he tried to go BW mode (soak, back, tp in the fight) or Leoric mode (die, tp in the fight, die). I had more work protecting him than peeling for the backline. And then the magic happened. He stopped dying at all and became a friggin' monster. Pulling them, soaking damage like crazy, crapping on fasltad head and so. I really enjoyed being the tank with a Dehaka on my side. But I can't imagine him protecting anyone, ever. He's a great off tank for sure. And people aren't used to play vs him at all. Is this in QM or HL? I have gotten very good results in QM with Dehaka, but am hesitant to draft him for HL for fear the comp doesn't turn out right. (Or I just draft him in the wrong situation.) | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On April 07 2016 22:45 karazax wrote: Check MVP_Rich's stream VOD for yesterday (4/6/2016) and you can see several gazlowe games. He has also been playing quite a bit of Dehaka and dominating with him. cant get the vod to work | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On April 08 2016 02:36 MotherFox wrote: Is this in QM or HL? I have gotten very good results in QM with Dehaka, but am hesitant to draft him for HL for fear the comp doesn't turn out right. (Or I just draft him in the wrong situation.) Who do you think he pairs best with yourself? Off hand, and I haven't been able to/interested in playing a ton since he came out but I'd assume you'd want to be popping into lanes with someone who can really take advantage of drag. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On April 08 2016 03:01 ThomasjServo wrote: Who do you think he pairs best with yourself? Off hand, and I haven't been able to/interested in playing a ton since he came out but I'd assume you'd want to be popping into lanes with someone who can really take advantage of drag. edit-> (My build is enhanced agility / increased-essence-collection / symbiosis/ isolation / whirling dervish / elongated tongue / (contagion, apex predator, or hardened shield, as needed...but usually hardened shield or contagion.) IMO I think he does best with large maps and teams which are comfortable splitting up, to take full advantage of his ganking potential. You also kind of want a map where you can be in lane a lot OR an enemy team comp where you will get kills a lot. So I guess I like him...
In general, I think most people are not patient enough with his stun. If you can land it and your team is around, it usually secures a kill. If you are autoattacking the person it is really hard to miss it. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
I played against a Dehaka/Falstad/Brightwing/Zeratul/Thrall and it was kind of gnarly. Never knew when you'd be mauled by 3+ heroes. Probably not a great comp against competent players, but it seemed pretty fun to play (less fun to play against.) | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Don't know why, I just tried it again right now and it is working for me. His build seems to be 1) Enhanced Agility 4) Hero Stalker 7) Constriction 10) Isolation 13) Ferocious Stalker 16) Elongated Tongue 20) Apex Predator | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
He do fine as solo warrior? | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Often he drags someone with tongue, then W moves thru them with increased move speed to body block any retreat. Was playing with a Malf and would drag opponents into root a lot too. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On April 08 2016 05:35 karazax wrote: Yeah he was top damage in at least one of the games, some sick Z moves during combat either to escape, flank or chase someone down. Haven't watched the whole replay, was watching during down time at work and got interrupted a few times and VOD restarted on me so hope to watch more later. Often he drags someone with tongue, then W moves thru them with increased move speed to body block any retreat. Was playing with a Malf and would drag opponents into root a lot too. Yeah there seems to be this key moment right at the end of the drag where you need to about-face and start moving into the person. If you are moving away from them at the end of the drag they get away, if you have stopped and started to auto attack them then they won't. I think the only quality of life change I really would want on the character is to have the speed of his tongue on drag more uniform. Currently it zips out then slows down for the last little bit. This effectively makes it a shorter range skillshot than it really should be, since the massive slowdown at the last tongue flick is easy to walk out of. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
HL BS or no? NVM, sorting though the WoW bugged stuff, apparently his aa's are living bombs https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4e2zls/bug_kaelthas_living_bomb_as_aa/ | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On April 10 2016 13:39 karazax wrote: Apparently there is a bug where KT can keep Verdant Spheres permanently activated with no cool down. Two bugs or related? | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
edit-> Tested it in a bot game. This is a very silly bug that basically stops the game from being a game. KT can cast living bomb on every single minion in a minion wave in less than a second now, not to mention painting the enemy team. (or keeping a constant chain bomb on the enemy team's tank) | ||
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