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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
February 26 2016 00:19 GMT
#1661
I'm surprised there isn't a rule regarding assassins yet. I assure you that there's no other comp I hate as much as playing with no assassin / proper damage vs a lineup that has 2 supp w/ damage. It's extremely hard to kill anyone if your warriors happen to be of the less damaging sort..
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 15:59:45
February 26 2016 15:57 GMT
#1662
On February 26 2016 02:43 Valiver wrote:
I think they just need to have a box to check when you queue for QM that says "Force Standard Teams" and if checked it will only put you in a game with at least 1 warrior and support, but then the rest of the team random, but most of the time assassin/specialist mix with the occasional double war/sup possible. Anyone who does not have the box checked will get basically what is current QM, sometimes crazy with no warriors or supports, but sometimes matched with others who have the box checked, it just depends on the queues.

There will also be an indicator for those queueing with the box checked that tells you ~what roles are least represented. For example there's a warrior shortage, so if you queue as a warrior right now your queue time will be significantly reduced. That would give people who only desire standardish QM games a better experience, not really effect those who don't care or split the player base between different modes, and promote people playing all the different roles, not just assassin or specialist or whatever, while rewarding them with faster queue times.


I like the idea of queing on some role to get placed faster.
And I like the idea of asking the system to force you into standard teams even if it means longer queue time.

It'd really help. What would help too is if they split warriors better. You'll play 2 games without warriors and then one game 3 warriors vs 3 warriors or something like that. (same for supports, noone plays QM to get the chance to train on 2 supports comps)

In fact QM is less and less a good place to try to improve with some heroes. When you have 4 assassins Reghar vs 4 assassins Reghar you cannot really know if you're actually doing well with Lunara. (besides my QM MMR is so low I mostly have stupid easy games)
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
February 28 2016 15:09 GMT
#1663
Just had a Li-Ming who only attacked buildings. On Towers of Doom. And flamed anyone mentioning the fact she had the lowest hero damage (by far) on the entire team, as well as the highest death count and missing every teamfight.

Where do these 'people' come from? A bot would've done a better job.
Seriously. Lowest hero damage. By far. On Li-Ming. Ended up losing to a team with a bloody Azmodan on it due to her.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46526 Posts
February 28 2016 16:50 GMT
#1664
As Tassadar, I healed twice as much as Rehgar. What.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 28 2016 20:43 GMT
#1665
actually that li ming sounds exactly like something a bot would do haha.

If you want to carry a game super hard, play coop on veteran difficulty. Thats the difficulty those that didn't do the tutorial take. But only take heroes that can win a 1v5 vs bots.

extreme difficulty is more a race of if you can beat bots before they reach level 10. But veteran is like kill the bots faster then your team can feed.
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
February 29 2016 06:02 GMT
#1666
"helpful hint, don't play tassadar"

I didn't fucking ask for your helpful hint, Jaina that charges alone into the whole fucking enemy team. I could've given you 12 helpful hints before then.
JaviGonis
Profile Joined November 2015
Spain2 Posts
February 29 2016 10:37 GMT
#1667
First pick nova, she proceeds to feed every minute. I don't get why I'm still getting paired with this people.

97% of fair matches? How about NO?

Still waiting for the mmr reset.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; give him a fishing rod and he will have a fishing rod.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 13:53:37
February 29 2016 13:47 GMT
#1668
What a great week-end.

- game 1 we have a Zeratul. I asked him not to as on clumped teamfights map he's hard to play. The guy was useless from start to end.
- so next game I'm happy they have a Zeratul. BUT he was a good one, and we had a feeder KT with 10 death. After I ask him to stay safe a lot, he types "I hear you". Still goes frontline and dies all the time. The guy didn't care about his position at all versus Zeratul... They had a very good Ming too (like very very good).
- next game I play with a Li Ming (so I hope it's the same guy but no) who goes frontline all game and feeds a lot. She dies twice as much as the other guys from my team. I was Tyrande, didn't die at all, healed 100k, pulled one of my best games with Tyrande ever... Why go frontline with Ming ?

Overall I played quite well, especially that last game, but lost all 3. ^^ But I stopped caring, now all I care is improving my game.

I'm surprised that Nova's winrate is so low on HotsLogs, since the rework I only played 9 or 10 games, lost only 1. Topping damage or being near top spot in every game.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 29 2016 20:04 GMT
#1669
the one time I thought I would have won vs a joke comp, our Illidank with 3 HL games in his career played decided to Illidank

needless to say, he ended up with the lowest hero damage in the entire game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
March 01 2016 02:17 GMT
#1670
Man, it takes like five to ten minutes to get a game at newb level!
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 13:41:59
March 01 2016 12:55 GMT
#1671
>be 10:1 in kills in early game as a fucking Abathur comp
>full level lead
>lose game in lategame
>SA facecheck Zeratul did nothing wroooongggggg


edit: id like to thank whoever fucking made the matchmaking algorithm for puttin some absolute fucking idiot murky-raynor with 282 games played into a 2,5k mmr game during his placements, THANK FUCKING YOU

NEXT GAME THAT RAYNOR IS IN THE OTHER TEAM AND HE PICKS MALFURION AFTER REHGAR A++++

and obviously we fucking lose that because knowing the word "rotation" or trying to win solo lane vs Greymane is too much for some fucking people
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
March 01 2016 13:20 GMT
#1672
Played with a rank 4 level 2 Zagara who was on a 9 defeat streak (with 1 win somewhere). So I guess the guy was rank 1 or 2 like yesterday. Played like a rank 99 or so. I really think it was his second or third game ever on Zagara.
The guy never positioned behind the team for fights. So, a fight breaks, he's on the side, hesitating to participate. When he does he dies (Sonya Diablo won't let you escape) when he doesn't the other 4 die while Zag still hesitates to fight. This, plus our Valla was terrible and actually gave them the win. And told us he quit Heroes (and played another after that one that he lost too).
Fun fact their Raynor doesn't die all game and has huge damage. I play vs him next game, warn my teammates about how solid he is. We win 21 kills to 0, it's a joke of a game, Raynor does 0 damage. That makes you think of how bad our teammates were on the previous game.


MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
March 01 2016 16:25 GMT
#1673
Had a diablo last night who threw a fit after we didn't get more than 5 coins on first chests for blackhearts bay. Proceeded to afk in base for next five minutes---- except we started to win the moment he stopped doing things. Of course, I HAD to comment in chat that "diablo's actions were directly hurting the team, see how much better we are without him?"

Unfortunately that prompted him to start walking into the enemy base on repeat cycles, since apparently he wanted us to lose really badly. (or at least hide how terrible he was)
Don't Panic
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 19:57:22
March 01 2016 19:56 GMT
#1674
Just had another of those matches where I thought "We didn't deserve to win".

Through the whole match on Sky Temple my team got caught in stupid, unnecessary, disadvantageous fights, people chased opponents all the way to their keep while all of them were up, almost all full health and 2 of us were dead and we made many other stupid mistakes. In the end we somehow won because we won a lucky fight while they were split on the temples and we managed to end it with boss.

Rank 2 is MMR Hell
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 21:32:45
March 01 2016 21:32 GMT
#1675
That 97% statistic is such a pile of absolute crap it is insane. Of my last 7 games, 6 have been ruined by trolls, the last two with E.T.Cs literally suiciding half the game because they couldnt land their moshpits.
Edit: last not least
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 16:01:54
March 02 2016 15:58 GMT
#1676
Get in draft. Wait forever for the 5th guy to pick something (so we all adapt to him asuming he was muted + a dick who wouldn't play warrior or support). The guy picks Raynor, nice. He waits for game to launch then leaves 3 seconds in. That bastard. He could leave draft. He knew he wouldn't be able to play he could have left in draft. We didn't even report him (you cannot report a bot, you have to wait after game and we forgot to do it then).

We played with Raynor bot all game. Worst thing ? We were winning, the opponents were total noobs, until:
- our Xul dies on their boss (all their team dead, he was rooted and pawned by the boss like a noob). They come at the last second, wipe us and get boss.
- our Ming stays AFK 1 full minute while we fought tribute (she tp back at the start of the fight), we were winning the fight but lost it in the end. And flames us. We didn't wait endgame to report her. :-)
- we try to ambush on our boss but Raynor AI attacks the (neutral) boss, provoking a teamwipe.

I wish bot players had a few simple behavior rules like "don't engage a neutral boss even if your team is there". Or "defend under your towers".
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
March 02 2016 19:26 GMT
#1677
I'm not sure if it's Rank deflation or what, but playing with a rank 20 friend, in a rank 10-15 game is so goddamn frustrating. Nobody has a clue, nobody listens, you warn them of danger, they still go in and die, you say we'll have to fight 4v5 for the shrine, two of them go to clear random lanes, at lvl 22.

Then you get called a retard for suggesting that "don't focus ETC" is not the way to go, and maybe they should stay behind the warrior, who happens to be Diablo, and will slam them a nice juicy guy to kill.

I don't recall rank 10 games being so bad on the way up. But then again, saw some rank 1 folks with 2400 mmr, so I guess every rank has lower mmr now.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
March 03 2016 19:04 GMT
#1678
The most annoying thing about creating an Abathur-only smurf:
People constantly complaining about "Aba afk, 4v5, gg noob". Seriously, every. single. match.
I try to explain at the start of the match that Abathur is in every fight, even if they don't see him, but constantly *ping* *ping* *ping* "Abathur, join fights"... when I have the highest hero and siege damage by a good margin.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
March 03 2016 19:40 GMT
#1679
Odd, the matches I've played with Abathur (granted, not that many), I've yet to be on the receiving end of that.
Although I suppose an Abathur smurf would start at the bottom and thusly with players who have zero clue on how he plays.
Usually the worst stuff I get thrown in my face is a suicidal melee assassin angry that I can't save him from the entire team with just a Symbiote.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 03 2016 19:57 GMT
#1680
On March 03 2016 04:26 Pwere wrote:
I'm not sure if it's Rank deflation or what, but playing with a rank 20 friend, in a rank 10-15 game is so goddamn frustrating. Nobody has a clue, nobody listens, you warn them of danger, they still go in and die, you say we'll have to fight 4v5 for the shrine, two of them go to clear random lanes, at lvl 22.

Then you get called a retard for suggesting that "don't focus ETC" is not the way to go, and maybe they should stay behind the warrior, who happens to be Diablo, and will slam them a nice juicy guy to kill.

I don't recall rank 10 games being so bad on the way up. But then again, saw some rank 1 folks with 2400 mmr, so I guess every rank has lower mmr now.

I got dragged down to such a place in QM, playing with some randoms for the XP boost. I can now not play a single proper QM game because I constantly get the most terrible idiots in my team.

Lv 11 to 14, we're 2 man down. LETS GO BOSS!~!! BOSS BOSS PINGPINGPING GO BOSS

We lose boss

Noob Li Ming deal more damage! Report

And then the flaming starts.

People are so bad at this game it's ridiculous, and now I'm stuck with those fools. And please don't give me this obnoxious reddit attitude "Oh but theres 4 retards in your team and 5 in enemy team so if you lose you must be really bad haha",
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
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