EPTor I can tell you:
Falstad 11 deaths
Diablo 17 deaths
offensively blinking Kaelthas 11 deaths
Kerrigan that wanted to go for their core when they had all their keeps up and 5 people alive 14 deaths
Arthas (me) 7 deaths...
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Ej_
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or I can tell you: Falstad 11 deaths Diablo 17 deaths offensively blinking Kaelthas 11 deaths Kerrigan that wanted to go for their core when they had all their keeps up and 5 people alive 14 deaths Arthas (me) 7 deaths... | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On December 20 2015 03:32 Ej_ wrote: offensively blinking Kaelthas 11 deaths Sounds like you had Phantom on your team. He's notorious for offensively blinking with Kael'Thas to bodyblock for 0.23 seconds before getting blown up and dying instantly. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 20 2015 04:11 SC2John wrote: Sounds like you had Phantom on your team. He's notorious for offensively blinking with Kael'Thas to bodyblock for 0.23 seconds before getting blown up and dying instantly. If it takes 0.23 seconds it isn't instantly. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GAPezTR.png) Proof that the "new" mm didnt fix anything so far. 1800 mmr difference within a team (luckily it wasnt on mine, so we won, I was the sylvanas but when I saw that I felt so bad). | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 20 2015 05:10 sM.Zik wrote: Proof that the "new" mm didnt fix anything so far. 1800 mmr difference within a team (luckily it wasnt on mine, so we won, I was the sylvanas but when I saw that I felt so bad). The low person also lost 149 MMR points for that match, which implies it's a new player. Probably a refer-a-friend. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
You probably had more 2 man teams than the other team and thats why they got higher avg. MMR. Or the CM TrikSlyr had his blizz-MMR adjusted up to play with better people :p | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
On December 20 2015 09:03 MotherFox wrote: The low person also lost 149 MMR points for that match, which implies it's a new player. Probably a refer-a-friend. My understanding of that would be a new account with a very high win percentage so his MMR has not yet settled and the system currently thinks 3k+ might be where he will end up on best guess, from losing it implies he might not be hence the large adjustment. Or is that not how it works :p. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Is it just me or do we see more Cho Gall in QM again ? Got 2 out of my 3 daily games VS Cho Gall. It's always crappy games.  | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tZ3Yeyl.jpg) Cho'Gall seems so hard to kill with his massive HP pool and abilities. He never died once and did massive amounts of damage. I was torn between going AA build with Giant Killer due to his HP pool or going for an Arrow build. Since they had an Uther for a Divine Shield I figured whittling them down wasn't going to work and since AA requires you to stay in the fight a bit longer than the Arrow build I went for that (didn't want to stay too long vs their comp) but I'm not sure which was the right choice. I suppose it didn't help that they had a 3 group + 2 group against our 3 solo + 2 group. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6995 Posts
Had a few games where he was first picked though... we demolished them quite easily. It also is probably connected to rank/ skill/ level of play. Guessing i'm 10:1 in HL Rank 2,6k MMR but 5:10 in QM 2,4 MMR | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
And he still can hit wave + tower and zone out a single damage dealer, while keeping the waves at the perfect position. So wouldn't recommend putting a single dd + support in the lane against him. Either alot of CC on 2 or a specialist is my go to. Just needs a rotating support for some healing goodness. Or you put Murky against Cho'gall. Which is the funniest thing ever, unless you are Cho'gall. But since we are talking QM troubles here. Cho'gall in a no support game is almost a free win. Which is a good reason why he gains popularity Imo. Also zero cost hero. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
On another case, here is another good example of matchmaking flaws ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zbZ3I1c.png) As you can see, average mmr of both teams are fairly even. That's good, right? No, it's not as simple. I have Wiz on my team, which is super great and all, but I also have two players around 3k mmr while the lowest player of the other team is nearly 3.5k. No matter how great the 4.7k player on my team is player, he can't bring enough to balance that out. Just look at zeratul's build, I mean... There really should be somewhat of a minimim mmr range within a team, this wasn't a 10 min queue and the only party was, once again, RoyalZeus and I. The game was really frustrating to play. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
1st game we have hammer (he was good) on shrines, I (ETC) say "we must protect hammer so we need frontline". Last pick Zeratul. And a bad one, only me front, GG. Their Nova tear us to pieces. Also the team couldn't look at the map. 2nd game me and my friend screw the draft because of a misunderstanding. We have thrall and jo and diablo (my dfriend). They never ever engaged together. Thrall was always rushing solo or backline. Jo was diving 1v5 all game. 3rd game I prepick ETC. I say we need 1 mage. The 2 premade firstpicking pick KT Jaina. The last player had butcher prepicked since beginning. I say guys we need 2 guys front. Last pick, he changes for Tassadar. GG. In these 3 games the team was never ever grouped on objectives. Playing ETC 2 times when people just won't group behind you even when you delay 1 full minute is just not possible./ edit: was rank 2 10 days ago and felt I was better than the people I was matched with. Now rank 7 and can't do much with these guys. Also do you guys have an advice for duo queue ? What roles can me and my friend pick to carry the game ? Warrior + Healer doesn't work at all I can tell you unless you're a monster Uther + Mura. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Kerrigan with an Uther or Illidan with Uther/Kherazim/Morales can be painful for the enemy team to deal with since they're likely to be randoms. Nova + Zeratul can also be quite deadly if you work together well. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
That said, there are always games where they don't pick appropriately and leave us with a huge hole in the composition. Or where they wait until they are the only one left to pick to declare that they don't have any supports and pick Gazlowe. These are the kind of people who shouldn't be allowed to play HL until they are at least level 9 with 1 of each class. | ||
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