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Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
December 25 2015 12:33 GMT
#1321
I just found out a great thing about beeing in the 18th rank. Opponents don't have a clue that your must NOT stack as 5 against etc. Having the time of my life mosh pitting the hell out of these ranks.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 25 2015 15:48 GMT
#1322
got matched with a trio in QM
vampiric assault valla that mostly laned and only came to tributes to 1v5 into stuns
Leoric that I had to divine palm during wraith walks because he also liked to solo the enemy team (also after the divine palm he would run back in to die)
Rexxar that solo'd boss at level 7...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 25 2015 16:18 GMT
#1323
On December 25 2015 21:33 Yosheekee wrote:
I just found out a great thing about beeing in the 18th rank. Opponents don't have a clue that your must NOT stack as 5 against etc. Having the time of my life mosh pitting the hell out of these ranks.

That works at rank 1 around 3200 MMR as well... ;D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 23:08:09
December 25 2015 16:35 GMT
#1324
nope HL is a fucking incubator of sin

even after I thought I had defeated Blizzard and their insistance that I have connection problems paired with the game running in 1 FPS (even though my connection is 100% fine and they will simply never acknowledge that optimization of their games is very subpar, to word it lightly), I still lose the game because after not 1 but 2 full team wipes in a row at level 20+. the 3 idiots who weren't Johanna or me didn't do anything. ANYTHING

5 people dead, waves pushed away from core. They don't take down a keep, don't take a camp, just 30 seconds of fucking roaming around to farm creeps and hearth back. Holy fucking shit.

now I'm wondering if I'm the only person over reacting to this shit or if the others have simply given up on the playerbase


e: aaaaaaaand down a rank again after another facecheck competition on my team of 3 squishes and an ETC that moshed without them
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
December 26 2015 21:17 GMT
#1325
Fucking Nova bots in every single QM!....
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 27 2015 00:15 GMT
#1326
On December 25 2015 21:33 Yosheekee wrote:
I just found out a great thing about beeing in the 18th rank. Opponents don't have a clue that your must NOT stack as 5 against etc. Having the time of my life mosh pitting the hell out of these ranks.


Ah, but the other side of that coin is that your team may think that 4+ people Mosh Pit = TIME TO RUN!

Thats how it works for me anyways. :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 27 2015 07:28 GMT
#1327
Man, after some great games yesterday and going on a 9 game win streak I got some absolutely awful comps and lost 6 in a row. QM, so not the end of the world, but I thought the matchmaking had improved... got abathur nova 3 games in a row, never any tanks until 1 game where we get 3 and consequently have 0 damage, getting matched vs Kerrigan/Thrall with Lunara, KT, Valla etc on our team.

Pretty much every game we were hugely squishy against far more hp + not enough bodies for objectives on maps like Sky Temple because we have nova aba tyrande zagara lunara vs raynor thrall kerrigan kharazim sylvanas...

Just sucks to go from great comps, great games one day to terrible comps and terrible games the next.

I need to stop playing at 3-5am so I can play HL. HL at this time is nothing but Russians.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 21:23:30
December 27 2015 21:02 GMT
#1328
they should quiz you on a hero's talent build before you can play him in HL

today i got matched with a KT that was complaining about getting focused so he took Backdraft on 16

totally feeling Larkin here, HL is like a roulette where the team with more idiot picks loses, rarely get close games

edit: what the fuck next game I get is even worse. Opponents draft no tank and Tassadar solo healer and then play like fucking bots no kidding. I'm around rank 24 and sure people are bad, but not this bad. They literally played like bots: lost every lane (their first fort went down like 4min in to Hammer/Medic lol), picked weird talents, lost the game sub 16min I think after our 2nd weaver push with boss (we were 13 while they weren't 10 yet). Blizzard please.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
December 27 2015 21:04 GMT
#1329
On December 28 2015 06:02 Ej_ wrote:
they should quiz you on a hero's talent build before you can play him in HL

today i got matched with a KT that was complaining about getting focused so he took Backdraft on 16

totally feeling Larkin here, HL is like a roulette where the team with more idiot picks loses, rarely get close games


Obviously backdraft, how do you expect a massive shield barrier to help you when you are getting focused!?
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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
December 28 2015 13:52 GMT
#1330
Sigh, got a 2 man group + 3 randoms (inclusing myself) with Tassadar as only support vs 5 man group with a good composition. Got roflstomped very hard. Ever since the matchmaking changes I've seen 5 man vs no-5 man happen a lot more.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 28 2015 14:01 GMT
#1331
Dunno I always build Auto-Attack Kael. Very rare build though.

I'm kinda stuck right now with my main account, which is BTW becoming my smurf because I play with really bad players. 8 losses 1 win on my games from saturday to now. Most of these games lost in draft or lost because people feel like gods after killing 3 guys so they make mistakes.
I play warrior, they let me solo front with ETC or Leoric. The assassins cannot make a kill.
I play heal, well it's a bad idea as Brightwing is not so good these days and Morales is too good.
I play assassin, it works most of the time, but the warriors are stupid, like diving 1 v 5 with their team way behind... The warriors don't peel.

Not bragging (more depressing) but I was by far the best player of my team these 9 consecutive games (to me best = fit your role, die very rarely and be aware of the map).
Out of those 8 defeats were 2 or 3 tight games, but every one of them was with idiots (butcher 1v5, ETC not peeling because he wants to try to maybe place a pogo under their immortal though all 5 of them have pogo counters).
I wish at least 1 other people would play/draft well when I solo queue, or even duo queue.

totally feeling Larkin here, HL is like a roulette where the team with more idiot picks loses, rarely get close games


It's 100% accurate to my experience right now. Fortunately on my other account I get quality games thanks to the near 3k MMR, but still.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 29 2015 00:20 GMT
#1332
Yeah, because of far fewer games played in HL and a lower MMR as a result I pretty much only play QM right now (3100+ MMR in QM) when I want high(er) level. As odd as that sounds. I can't deal with the type of games I get sub 3000 MMR anymore and I don't want to become toxic... saying in my head "what the fuck are you doing" is nearly as bad as typing it, imo. That and it's hella satisfying when pretty much everyone in my QM solo games is rank 1 HL and I can not only be competitive but regularly outperform them.

That or I'm forced to playing QM with my 1200 MMR friend and consequently getting games that are hilariously bad and topping damage with Tyrande or TLV or notching 20 kills as Sonya. Which is fun but depressing at the same time.

Ah well, getting a sick ass new gaming rig set up in the next week or two and will start grinding for real then. Already had a few losses due to my laptop crashing and I'd rather not have that in HL.

I just wish people would think. Why do people think they should engage 3v5, then blame their teammates for not being with them? Guess what, if your team isn't with you, don't engage until they are. It's so simple, and yet so many people don't grasp basic concepts like this.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7361 Posts
December 29 2015 10:17 GMT
#1333
i sucked yesterday in pretty in the last 4 of my games and i just wanted to say: "I'm sorry! i should not have continued playing HL after i went on tilt!"
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2015 12:52 GMT
#1334
On December 29 2015 09:20 Larkin wrote:


I just wish people would think. Why do people think they should engage 3v5, then blame their teammates for not being with them?


It's easier to blame others than to suffer self-loathing over misdeeds past.
Don't Panic
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 29 2015 13:22 GMT
#1335
For sure!

My friend and I dropped the warrior+healer combination, played assassin+specialist and warrior+assassin. Won both (both with Diablo on our team BTW). Will keep this way until I can play Uther.
I guess it's easier to manage others if they suck with the warrior ("please don't dive", "wait us") than if they can't kill or put some big damage at all. It helped we had some smart teammates (it exists!).
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 29 2015 16:51 GMT
#1336
I guess the team players are currently enjoying christmas and new year. Had a really high amount of non team players over christmas and I mean the bad kind.
So sticking with the heroes that keep your dudes alive and own in the lategame.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 29 2015 17:10 GMT
#1337
On December 29 2015 21:52 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 09:20 Larkin wrote:


I just wish people would think. Why do people think they should engage 3v5, then blame their teammates for not being with them?


It's easier to blame others than to suffer self-loathing over misdeeds past.


I dunno, I'm the type of player who really hates on myself when I f**k up. Or even when something is relatively out of my control - I dived in with KT the other day and was literally 0.3 seconds (if that) of my arcane barrier coming off cooldown but died just before. Thought I had cost us the game to land those chain bombs. But they ended up throwing at boss.

On December 29 2015 22:22 Leolio wrote:
My friend and I dropped the warrior+healer combination, played assassin+specialist and warrior+assassin. Won both (both with Diablo on our team BTW). Will keep this way until I can play Uther.


This is definitely the kind of thing that me and my friend have learned in duo queue HL. To stop picking for the comp and just pick what we're happy with. We win far more when we're playing our better heroes than playing 'for the team'. It does leave us sometimes with situations where the support sucks (a bad LiLi, a bad Morales) and that can cost us the game. But it's a lot easier to carry when we are the damage/frontline and they a bad heal than the other way around.

I remember why I main Sylv too, as when I pick her I can flat out dominate. Dropped 82k damage in a 20 minute BoE game yesterday (we lost, but still). Also recorded our fasted HL win with her - ~11 minutes.

Still, some stupid shit happens with drafts. The other day, the other team drafted no support - I was 3rd or 4th pick and drafted Uther, so it was a shock when their last pick wasn't support. Needless to say, they dominated early game Tomb and ended up getting so far ahead that by the time their lack of sustain started mattering they were already in such a winning position it didn't matter.

It didn't matter that I had done 100k+ healing - it mattered that our KT was rarely grouped and rarely doing the damage he needed to be.

It made me think that, had I been last pick, I may have even not drafted support at all, just for more reliable damage output. I could have gone for groupies ETC or something. Or a serpent build LiLi.

Then again, in another game I ended up drafting Malf whom I haven't played in months and doing 120k healing and winning the game whereas I had lost previous games as Uther and Kharazim, statistically my better supports and considered way better in pro meta. So go figure.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 29 2015 18:43 GMT
#1338
Sonya/Thrall/Tyrael/Zagara/Uther

we lose to Morales/Artanis/Tychus/Raynor/Nazeebo

yep, super dive comp lost to a bunch of squishes. How? I don't know. They would randomly start running around instead of capping altars after won TFs. Thrall and Sonya would facecheck bushes after a won TF and die to enemies.
Tyrael and Thrall would lose half their health fighting boss they didn't finish.

I don't know how we lost. I really don't.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
December 29 2015 19:58 GMT
#1339
On December 30 2015 01:51 FeyFey wrote:
I guess the team players are currently enjoying christmas and new year. Had a really high amount of non team players over christmas and I mean the bad kind.
So sticking with the heroes that keep your dudes alive and own in the lategame.


I'm experiencing quite the opposite. I have never had more luck with my teams than the past 2-3 days. Ranked up from Rank 20 to Rank 13 in just a couple of days.

... It might also be because people in these ranks have absolutely no idea how to play against Sonya. I'm mostly wrecking entire teams because I'm being ignored due to the common understunding of 'just ignore the warriors!'.
I'm just wondering at what stage the players will understand that ignoring a Sonya might not be that good of an idea.

But had some idiotic games still:
- KT-Player calls it a loss during draft, because we got no Specialist. Then leaves the game, returns about 5min later, goes afk and blames the team for the loss.
- Got 2 tanks already, last pick prepicked Jaina or something -> spontaneously decides to pick a 3rd tank. In the end we ended up with a 3 tank no heal lineup - and somehow still won. No idea how that happened or whatever.
- Dragon Shire is just impossible to play in Solo Q, imo. Every other map is somewhat playable but Dragon Shire just requires too good of a teamplay for a Random group imo. I really hate this map atm.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 29 2015 20:41 GMT
#1340
On December 30 2015 04:58 Swisslink wrote:
- Dragon Shire is just impossible to play in Solo Q, imo. Every other map is somewhat playable but Dragon Shire just requires too good of a teamplay for a Random group imo. I really hate this map atm.

Dragonshire is probably my best solo queue map because other people are so bad at it. Just leave the laning to everyone else and pick a hero that you can rotate and kill people with.
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