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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 17:02:05
December 08 2015 16:05 GMT
#1241
woo, next game I decide to pick Thrall in HL for the first time and the Russian on Tyrael keeps throwing our every engagement by going a random build with Judgement being used as if he was that one Illidan with Hunt
he ends up with 12 deaths to the 5 to 7 on the rest of us
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 16:23:04
December 08 2015 16:20 GMT
#1242
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.
Life?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 17:32:55
December 08 2015 17:30 GMT
#1243
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


What maps are best for Gazlowe? Cursed hollow to zone out the tribute/ bosses, and Sky temple and Dragon shire to zone out the temples/ shrines? Maybe even Haunted mines to zone underground? And I guess now Towers of doom to zone out the altars? Annnd Battlefield of eternity to solo the enemy angel while your team defends your angel 4v5? (Sounds like he could be pretty useful in over half the maps that require zoning for objectives...)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 18:21:44
December 08 2015 18:16 GMT
#1244
On December 09 2015 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


What maps are best for Gazlowe? Cursed hollow to zone out the tribute/ bosses, and Sky temple and Dragon shire to zone out the temples/ shrines? Maybe even Haunted mines to zone underground? And I guess now Towers of doom to zone out the altars? Annnd Battlefield of eternity to solo the enemy angel while your team defends your angel 4v5? (Sounds like he could be pretty useful in over half the maps that require zoning for objectives...)


You forgot Infernal Shrines.
Life?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
December 08 2015 18:25 GMT
#1245
On December 09 2015 03:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


What maps are best for Gazlowe? Cursed hollow to zone out the tribute/ bosses, and Sky temple and Dragon shire to zone out the temples/ shrines? Maybe even Haunted mines to zone underground? And I guess now Towers of doom to zone out the altars? Annnd Battlefield of eternity to solo the enemy angel while your team defends your angel 4v5? (Sounds like he could be pretty useful in over half the maps that require zoning for objectives...)


You forgot Infernal Shrines.


Oh yeah, definitely!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6995 Posts
December 09 2015 12:53 GMT
#1246
On December 09 2015 02:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
What maps are best for Gazlowe? Cursed hollow to zone out the tribute/ bosses, and Sky temple and Dragon shire to zone out the temples/ shrines? Maybe even Haunted mines to zone underground? And I guess now Towers of doom to zone out the altars? Annnd Battlefield of eternity to solo the enemy angel while your team defends your angel 4v5? (Sounds like he could be pretty useful in over half the maps that require zoning for objectives...)


but, but that would mean leaving the lane.... i think we all know that a Gazlowe never leaves his lane!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 20:53:07
December 09 2015 20:51 GMT
#1247
2 super close, tough games today, one solo Q and one DUO with a guy way above me. First game, a teammate insisted on stitches, and landed only 1 decent hook as I could see. 2nd, prepicked and stuck with Abbathur on Black Hearts Bay with 0 melee assasins...

Still super close, and we even rushed core to 4% in the last one before losing.

What is up with guys insisting on off-meta and situational heroes? The only reason the games were close was that guys on the other teams did the same thing... nova, tass solo supp, anub solo tank etc. Why is it so hard to get matched with 5 ppl who pick smth for the team?? There are always 1-2 guys in there screwing it up, making it very difficult for the rest...

I guess my own HL-ready pool is not the greatest, but I am at least honest about it, and the heroes I know are genericly good and easy to build around!

Buff the siegetank
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
December 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#1248
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


I've had good games with Gazlowes in really wonky comps and he can do work, but at Rank 20 and with all of the people I see to fail to be competent at easier heroes I have to more or less dismay at what these people may wind up doing with Gazlowe.

I lost a game yesterday against a team with no fucking warrior.

God damn you, Arthas.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 09 2015 22:45 GMT
#1249
On December 10 2015 06:12 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


I've had good games with Gazlowes in really wonky comps and he can do work, but at Rank 20 and with all of the people I see to fail to be competent at easier heroes I have to more or less dismay at what these people may wind up doing with Gazlowe.

I lost a game yesterday against a team with no fucking warrior.

God damn you, Arthas.


Losing against a team with no warrior just means that you must of fought on a map that is heavily favored for team fights/high dmg
Life?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 23:02:46
December 09 2015 23:01 GMT
#1250
On December 10 2015 07:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 06:12 Zambrah wrote:
On December 09 2015 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On December 07 2015 04:05 Zambrah wrote:
If you're not comfortable playing ANY role other than assassin don't play HL.

Please.

EDIT: FIRST PICK GAZLOWE?! NOOOOO


Nothing wrong with a gazlowe first pick depending on the map. Also, I've carried so many games playing as gazlowe and we end up winning. Like if my team mates are slow and we're really behind, I'll just say fuck it, leave them to constantly fight 4v5. In the end the enemy team is leaving me to push to core easily and I always end up winning if they let me do that. It might sound toxic, but when I'm at 30k EXP and my team mates are at 12k still and your screen says VICTORY, it won't be toxic then.

Issue with that though is when some one picks gazlowe first and doesn't even know what they're doing.


I've had good games with Gazlowes in really wonky comps and he can do work, but at Rank 20 and with all of the people I see to fail to be competent at easier heroes I have to more or less dismay at what these people may wind up doing with Gazlowe.

I lost a game yesterday against a team with no fucking warrior.

God damn you, Arthas.


Losing against a team with no warrior just means that you must of fought on a map that is heavily favored for team fights/high dmg


We were winning for the most part until Arthas just starts to get really far ahead of the group and throws.

EDIT: It was Cursed Hollow
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 16:40:29
December 10 2015 16:32 GMT
#1251
Got 2 losses today, I launch the third game, as soon as I'm in lobby the 3 other players insult themselves, one of them 1st picks Abathur (terrible on Towers of Doom map IMO) and it seems they just played together earlier and lost because he played poorly Abathur.
I calm everyone in the lobby, try to ultra positive although it's probably a lost cause. So we can play. Of course we lose, the 2 other guys go for Falstad / Brightwing which is awesome. The problem is me and my friend picked Illidan (for Abathur) and ETC. And those 4 don't work well together at all.
BW can't heal Illidan, Fals can't take advantage of Mosh Pit, neither can Illidan. My pal makes a 4 man Mosh Pit, no death on them...

Previous game I manage a 5 man pogo with ETC, no deaths again (our Raynor was dead but that's all). WTF this week is really bad for me.


edit: Also, WTF with MMR these days ?

If I check my last 10 or so losses, all of them had people with same MMR as me, losing like 100 points for the defeat sometimes. These are people who shouldn't be here in the first place.
Today I lose 10 points I one game, Zagara loses 132 and Raynor 51. Why do I even have to play with them...
Or we lose, and 2 guys in the opposite team get 108 and 160 bonus. They didn't belong here, thanks for the uneven game.

ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 10 2015 17:03 GMT
#1252
Well this is still considered a preseason no? I'm wondering if they're going to fix the mmr situation. I hover around 2k - 2.5k atm in hero league and always end up with 1500 players some how. My gf who I helped in her placements (10-10) has a mmr around 1500 as well and she's higher than me in HL.
Life?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6995 Posts
December 11 2015 12:18 GMT
#1253
On December 11 2015 01:32 Leolio wrote:
Got 2 losses today, I launch the third game, as soon as I'm in lobby the 3 other players insult themselves, one of them 1st picks Abathur (terrible on Towers of Doom map IMO) and it seems they just played together earlier and lost because he played poorly Abathur.
I calm everyone in the lobby, try to ultra positive although it's probably a lost cause. So we can play. Of course we lose, the 2 other guys go for Falstad / Brightwing which is awesome. The problem is me and my friend picked Illidan (for Abathur) and ETC. And those 4 don't work well together at all.
BW can't heal Illidan, Fals can't take advantage of Mosh Pit, neither can Illidan. My pal makes a 4 man Mosh Pit, no death on them...

Previous game I manage a 5 man pogo with ETC, no deaths again (our Raynor was dead but that's all). WTF this week is really bad for me.


edit: Also, WTF with MMR these days ?

If I check my last 10 or so losses, all of them had people with same MMR as me, losing like 100 points for the defeat sometimes. These are people who shouldn't be here in the first place.
Today I lose 10 points I one game, Zagara loses 132 and Raynor 51. Why do I even have to play with them...
Or we lose, and 2 guys in the opposite team get 108 and 160 bonus. They didn't belong here, thanks for the uneven game.



My guess is, cause of the RAF thing going on, everyones got a smurf or two.
Obviously with little games played your MMR makes huges jumps

Shouldn't make impacts on HL though, maybe there is sth else going on
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 11 2015 13:02 GMT
#1254
just came here to read a few comments. Read the first post of the thread. And realized, I just had a Diablo that did that. Was on a double wave though to his defense. And I guess he needed the Souls for a revive for the team fight. And its Diablo ... if you played him you know how it feels to clean a wave. Then Leoric walks by and one hits the wave.

Lord of Terror with a fine print (only scary near walls)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 11 2015 16:58 GMT
#1255
>win the game by the time draft is finished
>own the early game because they also fucking suck

>lose the game after Falstad DCs in HL and never comes back
)))))))))
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 11 2015 18:02 GMT
#1256
hehe another won game, but this time our Valla decides to leave a TF and start randomly doing camps around the map, effectively losing us a TF that could take down their last keep

ofc that snowballed into next 2 immortals being lost while Valla kept being unable to dodge any CC
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-12 02:10:05
December 12 2015 00:56 GMT
#1257
First picks, Sonya/Morales, third pick Zeratul, fourth pick Rexxar, fifth pick Nova.

Im just gonna play until Im at rank 40
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#1258
Had to solo lane vs Cho'Gall and Morales as Zeratul

team reacted to pings only when I told them that Cho'Gall was destroying our fort 2 minutes into the game...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 14 2015 10:43 GMT
#1259
When I started climbing nicely in HL I muted people as soon as they started being toxic, even for little things. I don't know why I stopped doing this, but I'm into it again.

One QM this week-end with my smurf account, we have a balanced team and the opponents have 3 warriors no heal. I type before game starts "They have a bad team but be careful it may be hard to get some kills". Sylvanas outright insults me "you know nothing they have a good team" "noob" "go play lol" ... Of course we crushed them very hard. Yay toxicity, had to mute a guy who's like rank 40 after 30 secs of QM.

Same smurf account, play HL. Everyone plays well but Gazlowe (of course) who plays like he's vs AI. Solo push with no map control, engage 1v4, skip all obj. I swear the guy was even worse than AI. So I ask him, politely but not nicely, to participate, react to pings and so on. "Guys don't be rude this is a game, it's for fun". I reply "Yeah and you spoil 4 people's fun"...
I don't care it's my smurf account and I haven't finished placement, but everyone's efforts got ruined because of him. The other guys reported him, which is even more stupid. He didn't feed, didn't insult, didn't went AFK. He just sucked, you can't report people for sucking. You can just hope he's in the other team next game.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 15 2015 03:15 GMT
#1260
On December 14 2015 19:43 Leolio wrote:

I don't care it's my smurf account and I haven't finished placement, but everyone's efforts got ruined because of him. The other guys reported him, which is even more stupid. He didn't feed, didn't insult, didn't went AFK. He just sucked, you can't report people for sucking. You can just hope he's in the other team next game.


I think it falls under the AFK/Non-participation category. He isn't participating by splitpushing all game, and consequently the report is justified, imo.

-

On another note, I managed to win a HL game today when we had a last pick of Nazeebo, leaving us without support. Thank god I took ETC and could go groupies.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
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