In QM not even this is true. The matchmaker will try to match account levels but if not enough ppl are playing you can get rank 1 with 1000+ games as a LVL10 or sooner without waiting the full 600 sec.
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
In QM not even this is true. The matchmaker will try to match account levels but if not enough ppl are playing you can get rank 1 with 1000+ games as a LVL10 or sooner without waiting the full 600 sec. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:20 Garbels wrote: I think after 100 games everyone is equal in the eyes of the matchmaker. So only mmr counts. In QM not even this is true. The matchmaker will try to match account levels but if not enough ppl are playing you can get rank 1 with 1000+ games as a LVL10 or sooner without waiting the full 600 sec. Well that's the thing, he doesn't even have 100 games, if he did he would be level 40 long time ago. :D I know about the waiting, because if you wait for a long time the range of your MMR extends a lot and you are matched with a lot better or a lot worse guys than you, but the thing is we didn't wait for long... he didn't wait for even a minute because his MMR is obviously on par with ours(actually it is better, lol)... | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
His hotslog profile is just incomplete(his first game is with lvl 7 nova). | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
Did I mention we LOST TO CHO'GALL? WITH A RAYNOR?! These throws, OOOOH LOOOORD they hurt me deep inside. EDIT: Why do people have to be dicks to each other. ![]() | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On December 03 2015 01:47 xDaunt wrote: I hate to break it to you, but Rank 1 is full of the outright retarded as well. As far as I can tell, there is never a point in this game where matchmaking will save you from being matched with people who fail to understand the basics of drafting or the basics of gameplay (such as making sure that you join your team to fight over map mechanics or avoiding uneven engagements). I noticed it gets better as you climb, but you'll occasionnaly play with cows (or ducks pick your favorite animal) even at "high" ranks. I thought at rank 1 people would really know the game well but I guess there's still a lot of people in rank 1 who should be ranked way lower. On December 03 2015 14:48 xDaunt wrote: I just QM'd and got this comp: Artanis, Cho'Gall, Abathur, and Nova. Take a wild guess how that one went. Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ? | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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CarniX
Sweden83 Posts
I haven't even begun to play HL yet as I dont think I have enough heroes/experience. Edit: Ops wrong thread, though I was in the simple question one, sorry. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote: Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ? I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement. | ||
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Yosheekee
France111 Posts
I'm first, I try to communicate, no responses, no pre-pick at all. Well, i'll go for tank or heal since ppl are more enclined to play dps/specialist. I go for etc. Still no responses from my team. The second pick is.... Nova ! Ok, well, at least she can strike during the mosh pit. Then third pick is uther ! A healer, why not. So far so good. 4th and 5th pick, i did not understand. Muradin and sonya. And no, we didn't win. Can someone explains me why on earth it made sense to pick muradin and sonya ? | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On December 03 2015 23:36 xDaunt wrote: I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement. I don't see what you could do to make it work. Maybe Abathur could double soak during objective while you tried to delay them but with 3 bodies (and Nova doesn't really count) on the map it'd really take bad opponents for it to work. Also that lane phase must have been awful. Maybe the only option was to roam all team ChoGall Artanis Nova all the time while Abathur would double soak. Yosheekee > I don't know much about the 3 warriors meta but imo it can't work with Uther and Nova. Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711 | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 04 2015 01:36 Leolio wrote: I don't see what you could do to make it work. Maybe Abathur could double soak during objective while you tried to delay them but with 3 bodies (and Nova doesn't really count) on the map it'd really take bad opponents for it to work. Also that lane phase must have been awful. Maybe the only option was to roam all team ChoGall Artanis Nova all the time while Abathur would double soak. Yosheekee > I don't know much about the 3 warriors meta but imo it can't work with Uther and Nova. Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711 It wasn't really a winnable match. The laning phase was brutal. The other team roamed heavily and at will with a 3 man rotation, overloading my lane (Artanis) and Nova's. Neither of us stood a chance. To make matters worse, Abathur took Evolve Monstrosity instead of Ultimate Evolution. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On December 04 2015 02:34 xDaunt wrote: It wasn't really a winnable match. The laning phase was brutal. The other team roamed heavily and at will with a 3 man rotation, overloading my lane (Artanis) and Nova's. Neither of us stood a chance. To make matters worse, Abathur took Evolve Monstrosity instead of Ultimate Evolution. Maybe it was the same abby/nova pair I got matched with last night . Our abby did the same thing, and then complained when the other four teammates couldn't win teamfights over immortals. My first thought was "well, maybe if you had taken ultimate evo we'd have an extra nova for these fights..." | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But to make something like this work you drop a fort really early and then abathur can always depush the lane and soak it, while the enemy can't really do that.So you just have 2 lanes to defend basically. Its a catchup game but that makes it easier to catchup. Just draw the game out till level 20 and nova can do a snipe em all, especially with Cho'gall using the wombo combo ult and Artanis his refresh beam. Have won with worse compositions. But dropping a fort early is something not many people understand. So usually someone keeps feeding the enemy and the fort goes down regardless. | ||
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CarniX
Sweden83 Posts
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote: Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711 That's me thanks! | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On December 04 2015 02:50 FeyFey wrote: I have just one question did the nova took anti armor shells on 7 ? regardles ? xD As a matter of fact, she did. But to make something like this work you drop a fort really early and then abathur can always depush the lane and soak it, while the enemy can't really do that.So you just have 2 lanes to defend basically. Its a catchup game but that makes it easier to catchup. Just draw the game out till level 20 and nova can do a snipe em all, especially with Cho'gall using the wombo combo ult and Artanis his refresh beam. Have won with worse compositions. But dropping a fort early is something not many people understand. So usually someone keeps feeding the enemy and the fort goes down regardless. Interesting thought. I can see that possibly working with a very organized team, but we definitely weren't that. And my Cho didn't really understand how to play Cho. He played like a tank instead of a mobile siege platform, which resulted in him getting wrecked by the other team's triple tank comp. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But yeah thats a few trick shots you can try to win against superior comps in QM. Will not solve the problem of wrong talent picks and play, that shows especially in those situations. No guarantee it will work if the matchmaking gets improved. But from what it seems you will play mirrors all game every day then anyway. And you will pray you have people that only play one character on your side. And god Nova ... really reduce your attack speed, knowing full well you will have to wave clear >.>. And against tanks D: . That might even have seen oh a nova lets take Block. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
against... Stim Drone... Raynor... why... | ||
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
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. Our abby did the same thing, and then complained when the other four teammates couldn't win teamfights over immortals. My first thought was "well, maybe if you had taken ultimate evo we'd have an extra nova for these fights..."