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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
December 02 2015 22:20 GMT
#1181
I think after 100 games everyone is equal in the eyes of the matchmaker. So only mmr counts.

In QM not even this is true. The matchmaker will try to match account levels but if not enough ppl are playing you can get rank 1 with 1000+ games as a LVL10 or sooner without waiting the full 600 sec.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 22:40:01
December 02 2015 22:38 GMT
#1182
On December 03 2015 07:20 Garbels wrote:
I think after 100 games everyone is equal in the eyes of the matchmaker. So only mmr counts.

In QM not even this is true. The matchmaker will try to match account levels but if not enough ppl are playing you can get rank 1 with 1000+ games as a LVL10 or sooner without waiting the full 600 sec.

Well that's the thing, he doesn't even have 100 games, if he did he would be level 40 long time ago. :D

I know about the waiting, because if you wait for a long time the range of your MMR extends a lot and you are matched with a lot better or a lot worse guys than you, but the thing is we didn't wait for long... he didn't wait for even a minute because his MMR is obviously on par with ours(actually it is better, lol)...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
December 02 2015 23:39 GMT
#1183
Nah if you play solo 100 games is under lvl 30.
His hotslog profile is just incomplete(his first game is with lvl 7 nova).
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 00:22:06
December 02 2015 23:55 GMT
#1184
ARGGHHHHH, the worst throws because Jaina insists on her capacity to solo around and Raynor believed that getting a few shots on Cho'Gall was worth his death.

Did I mention we LOST TO CHO'GALL? WITH A RAYNOR?! These throws, OOOOH LOOOORD they hurt me deep inside.

EDIT: Why do people have to be dicks to each other.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 03 2015 05:48 GMT
#1185
I just QM'd and got this comp: Artanis, Cho'Gall, Abathur, and Nova. Take a wild guess how that one went.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
December 03 2015 06:36 GMT
#1186
I've been seeing a lot of abathur/nova comps in QM. I'm chalking it up to abby being on sale and nova being on free week.
Don't Panic
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 03 2015 08:58 GMT
#1187
On December 03 2015 01:47 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 22:47 Leolio wrote:
I don't know your rank but at rank 3ish people don't seem to understand what first pick is. I think you either secure a very good hero or pick one not easily countered by the other team. Not Nova, Illidan or Cho Gall for exemple. KT first pick is a great first pick imo.

Lost a couple of games on that tower of doom map yesterday, and barely won one today. People still don't get the map at all and are a bit clueless. Grouping and coming on obj seem like a bare minimum to me.
So, today we were losing so hard that Uther threw "GG I'll stop playing I'll just walk around untill the end" after 12 minutes and me begging him to play. After lots of reporting threats he played. And we won. And when I explain it to him he says the other team are noobs (because no, he couldn't be wrong when he said we lost). And no, the fact I'm 10 ranks better than him doesn't count obviously (ok it doesn't). He knows everything there is to know about this game.

I hate to break it to you, but Rank 1 is full of the outright retarded as well. As far as I can tell, there is never a point in this game where matchmaking will save you from being matched with people who fail to understand the basics of drafting or the basics of gameplay (such as making sure that you join your team to fight over map mechanics or avoiding uneven engagements).


I noticed it gets better as you climb, but you'll occasionnaly play with cows (or ducks pick your favorite animal) even at "high" ranks. I thought at rank 1 people would really know the game well but I guess there's still a lot of people in rank 1 who should be ranked way lower.

On December 03 2015 14:48 xDaunt wrote:
I just QM'd and got this comp: Artanis, Cho'Gall, Abathur, and Nova. Take a wild guess how that one went.


Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 03 2015 09:56 GMT
#1188
Abathurs are extremely popular in QM nowadays. I remember playing like 4 games in a row in QM with 2 friends where all 4 had Abathur on one side or another, or even both.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
CarniX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden83 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 14:35:25
December 03 2015 14:34 GMT
#1189
How do you check mmr? I mostly just play for fun, but lately I seem to get matched with/against a lot of rank 1's.
I haven't even begun to play HL yet as I dont think I have enough heroes/experience.

Edit: Ops wrong thread, though I was in the simple question one, sorry.
Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows. Buried in the flow of time. In the great name, i pledge myself to darkness!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 14:45:34
December 03 2015 14:36 GMT
#1190
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote:
Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ?

I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement.
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
December 03 2015 14:49 GMT
#1191
Why ? Is there any logic behind the draft i endured ?

I'm first, I try to communicate, no responses, no pre-pick at all. Well, i'll go for tank or heal since ppl are more enclined to play dps/specialist. I go for etc.

Still no responses from my team. The second pick is.... Nova ! Ok, well, at least she can strike during the mosh pit.
Then third pick is uther ! A healer, why not. So far so good.

4th and 5th pick, i did not understand. Muradin and sonya.

And no, we didn't win. Can someone explains me why on earth it made sense to pick muradin and sonya ?
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
December 03 2015 16:36 GMT
#1192
On December 03 2015 23:36 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote:
Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ?

I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement.


I don't see what you could do to make it work. Maybe Abathur could double soak during objective while you tried to delay them but with 3 bodies (and Nova doesn't really count) on the map it'd really take bad opponents for it to work.
Also that lane phase must have been awful. Maybe the only option was to roam all team ChoGall Artanis Nova all the time while Abathur would double soak.

Yosheekee > I don't know much about the 3 warriors meta but imo it can't work with Uther and Nova.

Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 03 2015 17:34 GMT
#1193
On December 04 2015 01:36 Leolio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 23:36 xDaunt wrote:
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote:
Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ?

I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement.


I don't see what you could do to make it work. Maybe Abathur could double soak during objective while you tried to delay them but with 3 bodies (and Nova doesn't really count) on the map it'd really take bad opponents for it to work.
Also that lane phase must have been awful. Maybe the only option was to roam all team ChoGall Artanis Nova all the time while Abathur would double soak.

Yosheekee > I don't know much about the 3 warriors meta but imo it can't work with Uther and Nova.

Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711


It wasn't really a winnable match. The laning phase was brutal. The other team roamed heavily and at will with a 3 man rotation, overloading my lane (Artanis) and Nova's. Neither of us stood a chance. To make matters worse, Abathur took Evolve Monstrosity instead of Ultimate Evolution.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
December 03 2015 17:50 GMT
#1194
On December 04 2015 02:34 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 01:36 Leolio wrote:
On December 03 2015 23:36 xDaunt wrote:
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote:
Seriously I would have laughed if I got that, it's just one of the worst teams possible in the game right now, at least early to mid game as you have no lane presence at all. What was the map ? Who were you playing ?

I was playing as Artanis, thinking that it would be a good idea to block other newbs from playing him during his free week. The map was Infernal Shrines. Wasn't playing with or against anyone notable. But yeah, here's how bad this comp was: replacing any of those heroes with Gazlowe would have been an improvement.


I don't see what you could do to make it work. Maybe Abathur could double soak during objective while you tried to delay them but with 3 bodies (and Nova doesn't really count) on the map it'd really take bad opponents for it to work.
Also that lane phase must have been awful. Maybe the only option was to roam all team ChoGall Artanis Nova all the time while Abathur would double soak.

Yosheekee > I don't know much about the 3 warriors meta but imo it can't work with Uther and Nova.

Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711


It wasn't really a winnable match. The laning phase was brutal. The other team roamed heavily and at will with a 3 man rotation, overloading my lane (Artanis) and Nova's. Neither of us stood a chance. To make matters worse, Abathur took Evolve Monstrosity instead of Ultimate Evolution.


Maybe it was the same abby/nova pair I got matched with last night . Our abby did the same thing, and then complained when the other four teammates couldn't win teamfights over immortals. My first thought was "well, maybe if you had taken ultimate evo we'd have an extra nova for these fights..."
Don't Panic
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 17:58:06
December 03 2015 17:50 GMT
#1195
I have just one question did the nova took anti armor shells on 7 ? regardles ? xD

But to make something like this work you drop a fort really early and then abathur can always depush the lane and soak it, while the enemy can't really do that.So you just have 2 lanes to defend basically. Its a catchup game but that makes it easier to catchup. Just draw the game out till level 20 and nova can do a snipe em all, especially with Cho'gall using the wombo combo ult and Artanis his refresh beam.
Have won with worse compositions. But dropping a fort early is something not many people understand. So usually someone keeps feeding the enemy and the fort goes down regardless.
CarniX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden83 Posts
December 03 2015 17:51 GMT
#1196
On December 03 2015 17:58 Leolio wrote:
Carnix > create an account on HotsLog and link it to your bnet account. Even without creating the account you can just search for yourself and look at your profile. Maybe you're this guy:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=3288711


That's me thanks!
Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows. Buried in the flow of time. In the great name, i pledge myself to darkness!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 03 2015 18:50 GMT
#1197
On December 04 2015 02:50 FeyFey wrote:
I have just one question did the nova took anti armor shells on 7 ? regardles ? xD


As a matter of fact, she did.

But to make something like this work you drop a fort really early and then abathur can always depush the lane and soak it, while the enemy can't really do that.So you just have 2 lanes to defend basically. Its a catchup game but that makes it easier to catchup. Just draw the game out till level 20 and nova can do a snipe em all, especially with Cho'gall using the wombo combo ult and Artanis his refresh beam.
Have won with worse compositions. But dropping a fort early is something not many people understand. So usually someone keeps feeding the enemy and the fort goes down regardless.


Interesting thought. I can see that possibly working with a very organized team, but we definitely weren't that. And my Cho didn't really understand how to play Cho. He played like a tank instead of a mobile siege platform, which resulted in him getting wrecked by the other team's triple tank comp.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 20:49:07
December 03 2015 20:48 GMT
#1198
oh it works in QM, enough understand the reasoning of dropping a fort if the other side feels to strong. There are a few try hards that have chat muted, that will spam defend pings and ignore retreat pings. So then you have a problem either way. But at the same time the other side can have this person that pushes this lane deep into your territory and you can snipe them for free. So you can get through the rough enemy has level 10 first situation.

But yeah thats a few trick shots you can try to win against superior comps in QM. Will not solve the problem of wrong talent picks and play, that shows especially in those situations.

No guarantee it will work if the matchmaking gets improved. But from what it seems you will play mirrors all game every day then anyway. And you will pray you have people that only play one character on your side.

And god Nova ... really reduce your attack speed, knowing full well you will have to wave clear >.>. And against tanks D: . That might even have seen oh a nova lets take Block.

Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 03 2015 22:59 GMT
#1199
Cho... Gall...

against... Stim Drone... Raynor... why...
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 08:20:44
December 04 2015 08:20 GMT
#1200
Game keeps saying I disconnect from games even though I didnt. I just played 3 QM's with leavers just to come back to "you disconnected from a game, play 4 games with leavers". fml
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