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Also ESV showmatch! Probably worth a watch! here!
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Yay? Also ESV showmatch! Probably worth a watch! here! | ||
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Garsecg
United States129 Posts
On March 06 2015 07:22 GMarshal wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/2y1qh5/blizzard_is_implementing_a_permanent_muteall/ Yay? Also, this is going to be awesome, an ESV showmatch Ugh. I feel like including a "mute-all" button in an explicitly co-operative team game reflects how deep the collective immaturity of internet communities towards information or stimuli they aren't seeking is. They say in the article is an option to just opt-out of all chat, period. Blizzard's whole stance disgusts me. From the article: we had to come to terms with the reality that the kind of player who wants to be toxic to their team-mates is going to do so unless we limit their communications options, incentivise them to eliminate toxicity from their behaviour, or make the consequences for their actions severe enough that they either stop being toxic or simply find a different game to be toxic in. It feels so simple -- if you see someone being toxic to someone else, tell them to not be an asshole and that it's not right to treat other people poorly. Why? Because THEY ARE ANOTHER PERSON. It's a community issue, not an issue to do with the game. When did people stop telling other people when it's not okay to treat them poorly, and when did they stop sticking up for others? When did it become Blizzard's job to police behavior? When did Blizzard start thinking it's "their job" to "disincentivize" toxic players? I think it's my job as a person to disincentives assholes -- toxic players -- by calling them out. "Hey man, that's our teammate, don't treat them like that. If you're so good, help them or explain things in a way they can understand". Not just in a game either, but in life. If I see someone treating someone else poorly in real life, it's my job to call them out on it. In real life this almost never happens... Online? All the time. ALL the time. This solution is anything but. It rewards the people that feel entitled to remove stimuli they would rather not see from their lives by teaching them that yes, such an option should be provided. It does not punish those who treat others poorly in any way, shape, or form (if everyone is muted, team communication suffers). What a stupid, shortsighted idea. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
The other ideas though are actually good. The "just toxic ladder" and the "leaver queue" they talked about in blizzcon are great ideas, that they haven't implemented yet probably because there is few people on the game to spread the population further, but is something that will come eventually. And the automute thing is good too. If people report a player as toxic (thhrough the honor system or equivalent they are talking about in the interview), or the game chat register a lot of "supid noobs, uninstall" and then the player wll be muted, it could be a good thing. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
On March 05 2015 23:57 xDaunt wrote: It's probably only a matter of time before Blizzard starts adding some healing counterplay. Might as well introduce items lol. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 06 2015 08:33 [Phantom] wrote: Yeah, mute all option is a bad idea because that new player that don't likes to get his mistakes called out (so he can actually understands what he does wrong) will simply mute all and then keep being bad. Hopefully blizzard will add it but won't give any indication that it exist like it does whith many other things in the game. The other ideas though are actually good. The "just toxic ladder" and the "leaver queue" they talked about in blizzcon are great ideas, that they haven't implemented yet probably because there is few people on the game to spread the population further, but is something that will come eventually. And the automute thing is good too. If people report a player as toxic (thhrough the honor system or equivalent they are talking about in the interview), or the game chat register a lot of "supid noobs, uninstall" and then the player wll be muted, it could be a good thing. I like the auto-mute toxic flagged players suggestion they're talking about. Clearly if they are planning a leavers / toxic queue then they know who those folks are to auto-mute. I think mute-all is overkill for the reasons you and others point out. If they put it in, I can only hope that the feedback they get will make them reconsider (it is still beta after all). @Garsecg - I'm not going to get into your stance too much, other than to say I disagree and will just point to the steps LoL and Dota 2 have had to take to remove toxicity from their games. In an ideal world, I'm all with you, but we aren't there (yet?). | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On March 06 2015 08:33 [Phantom] wrote: Yeah, mute all option is a bad idea because that new player that don't likes to get his mistakes called out (so he can actually understands what he does wrong) will simply mute all and then keep being bad. Hopefully blizzard will add it but won't give any indication that it exist like it does whith many other things in the game. The other ideas though are actually good. The "just toxic ladder" and the "leaver queue" they talked about in blizzcon are great ideas, that they haven't implemented yet probably because there is few people on the game to spread the population further, but is something that will come eventually. And the automute thing is good too. If people report a player as toxic (thhrough the honor system or equivalent they are talking about in the interview), or the game chat register a lot of "supid noobs, uninstall" and then the player wll be muted, it could be a good thing. The way people are telling those new players about their mistakes it is no wonder why people would rather mute than listen... | ||
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2065 Posts
Siphoning Arrow, Puncturing Arrow, Repeating arrow. This gives you massive life regen. Much better alternative to his suggestion of Vampiric Assault (lol). Then typically I will get Rain of Vengeance, Frost Shot, Blood for Blood, And then Bolt of the storm or Nexus Frenzy depending on how the game is going. Anyone got any reasoning for changing this or conforming with the 'pro builds'? A typical situation would be where I run into a single person in a bush, Hungering arrow them, vault away, Multishot, Hungering arrow, and if they are still pursuing, I can drop an ult or blood for blood, or blink if need be. Since I have 2x the ability to slow, with B4B and Frost shot, it also makes it great for chasing people down. And this is much more useful on maps where split fights are more common. Such as DS, ST, GoT, BHB or even HM. As far as team fights go, the additional bounces and instant cooldown of hungering via vault allows me to immediately burst out 2 Qs which spread around the damage on the team more than 2 multishots would as well. I also really like the Q better because it has more range and width than it actually looks like, since it has a minor homing capability. | ||
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SpiriTx13
Lithuania36 Posts
On March 06 2015 11:00 Eliezar wrote: Lost Vikings chosen in ESL...and diablo is the official nazeebo counter? When was that? Can't find matches with LV in ESL_heroes channnel | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On March 06 2015 11:00 Eliezar wrote: Lost Vikings chosen in ESL...and diablo is the official nazeebo counter? Diablo has been a pretty good counter to nazeebo's ult for some quite time already, his ult will hit nazeebo channeling no matter what. About Lost Vikings, i am guessing it was on NA ? How often does JakeGG upload ESL VODs ? | ||
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lestye
United States4245 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On March 06 2015 17:50 lestye wrote: Excited to see what they're going to unveal at PAX, I hope they show off more characters besides Sylvanas like yesteryear. Before the Vikings came out I thought it was leaked that they were working on Sylvanas, The Butcher, Lost Vikings, and I think there was one more that was a StarCraft hero. | ||
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lestye
United States4245 Posts
On March 06 2015 18:25 Eliezar wrote: Before the Vikings came out I thought it was leaked that they were working on Sylvanas, The Butcher, Lost Vikings, and I think there was one more that was a StarCraft hero. They showed off concept of Butcher, Skeleton King, and Crusader at Blizzcon last year, but they didnt have any skills or anything, just showed off the models/concepts. So those are canidates but who knows if that's actually near in the pipeline. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On March 06 2015 18:37 lestye wrote: They showed off concept of Butcher, Skeleton King, and Crusader at Blizzcon last year, but they didnt have any skills or anything, just showed off the models/concepts. So those are canidates but who knows if that's actually near in the pipeline. I'm really interested in seeing how they implement Butcher. Two of Stitches skills are what I would have put on Butcher. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On March 06 2015 17:48 Godwrath wrote: Diablo has been a pretty good counter to nazeebo's ult for some quite time already, his ult will hit nazeebo channeling no matter what. About Lost Vikings, i am guessing it was on NA ? How often does JakeGG upload ESL VODs ? Vikings didnt do anything particular that sort of tilted it towards "AMAGAD VIKINGS AHHHH AHHH". It was: Valla/ETC/Uther/Nazeebo/Vikings vs Rehgar/Hammer/Tassadar/Diablo (cant remember last faggot). All i saw that game was how broken ETC/Naz/Valla are, not how strong Vikings really is. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
No talent gate past lvl 30 -more gold when you lvl up (I hope we lvl 40s also get it..) -More lvls for every hero (yay? I think it's kinda good in the sense that people won't feel they are wasting anything when they play a lvl 10 hero, but thinking about how long it takes to lvl 9 from 10 and then thinking about the time it will take to get to 20 makes me want to cry) -better stats at the end of the game -of course sylvanas and tomb, which we already knew about. -Mute all. Also I heard they will give a free stimpack? And their top tier heroes are pretty different from the tier list, which show that pro games =/= ladder. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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