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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
March 06 2015 17:21 GMT
#7401
Don't really care for heroes of the dorm, but the talent gate and more free gold is always welcome.

Wanted to see a new hero after Sylvanas, but I suppose that's a surprise for another day.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 06 2015 18:58 GMT
#7402
On March 07 2015 01:57 [Phantom] wrote:
What do you think about the pax east announcement? Heroes of the dorm

No talent gate past lvl 30
-more gold when you lvl up (I hope we lvl 40s also get it..)
-More lvls for every hero (yay? I think it's kinda good in the sense that people won't feel they are wasting anything when they play a lvl 10 hero, but thinking about how long it takes to lvl 9 from 10 and then thinking about the time it will take to get to 20 makes me want to cry)

-better stats at the end of the game
-of course sylvanas and tomb, which we already knew about.
-Mute all.
Also I heard they will give a free stimpack?


And their top tier heroes are pretty different from the tier list, which show that pro games =/= ladder.


I fear the free stimpack will be the compensation for those of us who already leveled up to 40...

Hopefully not and Stimpack is a thank you for beta players though.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 06 2015 19:26 GMT
#7403
Sylvana ftw...
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 20:09:44
March 06 2015 19:40 GMT
#7404
OMG RIP Nazeebo >_<

Long Ranged Silence is nice.

And Sylvanas is yet another assassin specialist? I like it. Her kit sounds awesome, but we'll see.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 19:44:29
March 06 2015 19:43 GMT
#7405
On March 07 2015 03:58 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 01:57 [Phantom] wrote:
What do you think about the pax east announcement? Heroes of the dorm

No talent gate past lvl 30
-more gold when you lvl up (I hope we lvl 40s also get it..)
-More lvls for every hero (yay? I think it's kinda good in the sense that people won't feel they are wasting anything when they play a lvl 10 hero, but thinking about how long it takes to lvl 9 from 10 and then thinking about the time it will take to get to 20 makes me want to cry)

-better stats at the end of the game
-of course sylvanas and tomb, which we already knew about.
-Mute all.
Also I heard they will give a free stimpack?


And their top tier heroes are pretty different from the tier list, which show that pro games =/= ladder.


I fear the free stimpack will be the compensation for those of us who already leveled up to 40...

Hopefully not and Stimpack is a thank you for beta players though.


Well instead of speculating here's the official recap:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/18184937/pax-east-panel-recap-3-6-2015

TR; DR - all bonus are retroactive!
Including stimpack at lvl 10.

One thing here I'm pretty psyched about is Tomb of the Spider Queen's map mechanics. Something very non-binary and non-overwhelming. On the other hand such a tiny map might not be fun so we'll see.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 06 2015 19:53 GMT
#7406
I like how she owned Illidan in that demo LOL
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 20:00:58
March 06 2015 20:00 GMT
#7407
Something not noted in the recap / video is her trait. So here's what it was during Blizzcon:
Black Arrow - basic attacks stun enemy minions / mercs / aggressive structures for 1 second.

Based on the video it looks like it hasn't actually changed.
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
March 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#7408
when is artosis & tasteless casting another hots games?
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland764 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 11:19:04
March 07 2015 11:16 GMT
#7409
On March 07 2015 01:57 [Phantom] wrote:
What do you think about the pax east announcement?


- No talent gate past lvl 30 I like it, most ppl at 30+ already know, what they are doing and aren't "overwhelmed" by the choices anymore
- more gold when you lvl up (I hope we lvl 40s also get it..) They stated that lvl 40 will get it retroactively, too - so 16k Gold for everyone ! yay
-More lvls for every hero (yay? I think it's kinda good in the sense that people won't feel they are wasting anything when they play a lvl 10 hero, but thinking about how long it takes to lvl 9 from 10 and then thinking about the time it will take to get to 20 makes me want to cry) It will depend for me if those levels are actually used. I.e. It's fine for me that Hero levels 8/9/10 take a long time b/c you actually are getting a cosmetic bonus each level. Would be different if we had "filler levels" that dont do anything (like char levels 31-39 are).


-Mute all. Simply sucks, it's a co-oop game. I don't mind stuff to get ppl/casuals hooked or incentives to play more or other "easy modes" to battle ladder angst, but IMHO this crosses a line. The option to mute ppl individially should be enough, a perma-mute-everyone is too much.
But perhaps this won't matter much if the Ladder system actually works.
Or perhaps Blizz will make Co-op/Vs.AI. more appealing to those players... (?)

Also I heard they will give a free stimpack? yeah, they do. We will also get this retroactively. Sound like a nice incentive to hook up newcomers again. WhenI started getting to level 6 for Dailies was the first goal that kept me playing even though I could have done it another day - and then the "get more rotation slots" levels. Lvl 10 could be another "I'll play just to reach that today"-milestone for alot of ppl.


[edit]Also, thanks for the link, @Wuster

-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 07 2015 11:26 GMT
#7410
I hate the mute all feature too. Not listening to teammates is a severe form of toxicity in itself. I don't think it's even the lesser of two evils with players being toxic.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
March 07 2015 12:01 GMT
#7411
On March 07 2015 20:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
I hate the mute all feature too. Not listening to teammates is a severe form of toxicity in itself. I don't think it's even the lesser of two evils with players being toxic.


I really hope they implement a super advanced ping system instead then. For instance I wanna see a "after Y we do X ASAP"-ping.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 07 2015 12:08 GMT
#7412
Please avoid that aweful RIOT terminology for this game. We really don't want words like "toxicity" to be associated with esports in general,outside of their little control freak cult brand, which they consider "sports" anyways
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10162 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 12:41:43
March 07 2015 12:41 GMT
#7413
Mute all is a horrific and lazy way to combat bad behaviour.

Rewards for being nice and a teamplayer from your surrounding players is a big incentive and helps much more to the atmosphere (already lonely) of the game.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
March 07 2015 14:22 GMT
#7414
Woo they actually removed talent gating. What a brilliant idea Blizzard. Finally realizing that preventing me from playing a hero properly was a bad idea. Who the fuck would've guessed that.

On the other hand, it's way too late. I've come to realize that I hate every hero beside Illidan, and I will continue to play quick match only with him every game forward too. I said before he was really strong and he still is. Everything else is so boring, with long cooldowns and without the finesse required to stay alive.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 07 2015 16:36 GMT
#7415
On March 07 2015 23:22 kaztah wrote:
Woo they actually removed talent gating. What a brilliant idea Blizzard. Finally realizing that preventing me from playing a hero properly was a bad idea. Who the fuck would've guessed that.

On the other hand, it's way too late. I've come to realize that I hate every hero beside Illidan, and I will continue to play quick match only with him every game forward too. I said before he was really strong and he still is. Everything else is so boring, with long cooldowns and without the finesse required to stay alive.


once you drop the singleplayer mentality and accept HOTS as a teamgame, you'll enjoy more than they singleplayer mentality hero.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 07 2015 16:45 GMT
#7416
Hi JayBrundage :D glgl
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
March 07 2015 16:59 GMT
#7417
The finesse required to play illidan aka the very top tier of the patch... yeah... No :/
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 18:48:43
March 07 2015 18:39 GMT
#7418
On March 08 2015 01:36 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 23:22 kaztah wrote:
Woo they actually removed talent gating. What a brilliant idea Blizzard. Finally realizing that preventing me from playing a hero properly was a bad idea. Who the fuck would've guessed that.

On the other hand, it's way too late. I've come to realize that I hate every hero beside Illidan, and I will continue to play quick match only with him every game forward too. I said before he was really strong and he still is. Everything else is so boring, with long cooldowns and without the finesse required to stay alive.


once you drop the singleplayer mentality and accept HOTS as a teamgame, you'll enjoy more than they singleplayer mentality hero.

That implies that I actually play it singleplayer, when I only ever play it with friends. Mostly duo/trio queuing with a support dude when we're not for 5 man stacks in dota.
The problem is that after playing dota, every hero in hots is just so boring. All their skills have so low impact, and are generally so single-minded.

Trying lost vikings after having played meepo for 60 games just shows clearly how little complexity exists in comparison.

On March 08 2015 01:59 RouaF wrote:
The finesse required to play illidan aka the very top tier of the patch... yeah... No :/


Just because Illidan suddenly got popular doesn't mean he's without finesse. You still die like an idiot if you don't know how to play the hero and nothing has changed with that.

I claimed he was retardedly strong pre-patch too, and not that much was changed. It's mostly stuff like rewind double poly from Brightwing got delayed, so you don't have to die without being able to do shit.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
March 07 2015 22:25 GMT
#7419
I really hope that Chen will get some kind of buff. I loved him before the last patch, I hate him now. And since it's their lowest tier hero... well... I think a buff can be expected...
... on the other side... they nerfed Murky last patch.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
March 07 2015 23:14 GMT
#7420
On March 08 2015 03:39 kaztah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 01:36 TigerKarl wrote:
On March 07 2015 23:22 kaztah wrote:
Woo they actually removed talent gating. What a brilliant idea Blizzard. Finally realizing that preventing me from playing a hero properly was a bad idea. Who the fuck would've guessed that.

On the other hand, it's way too late. I've come to realize that I hate every hero beside Illidan, and I will continue to play quick match only with him every game forward too. I said before he was really strong and he still is. Everything else is so boring, with long cooldowns and without the finesse required to stay alive.


once you drop the singleplayer mentality and accept HOTS as a teamgame, you'll enjoy more than they singleplayer mentality hero.

That implies that I actually play it singleplayer, when I only ever play it with friends. Mostly duo/trio queuing with a support dude when we're not for 5 man stacks in dota.
The problem is that after playing dota, every hero in hots is just so boring. All their skills have so low impact, and are generally so single-minded.

Trying lost vikings after having played meepo for 60 games just shows clearly how little complexity exists in comparison.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 01:59 RouaF wrote:
The finesse required to play illidan aka the very top tier of the patch... yeah... No :/


Just because Illidan suddenly got popular doesn't mean he's without finesse. You still die like an idiot if you don't know how to play the hero and nothing has changed with that.

I claimed he was retardedly strong pre-patch too, and not that much was changed. It's mostly stuff like rewind double poly from Brightwing got delayed, so you don't have to die without being able to do shit.


hey, skills in HOTS are very high impact!


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